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Anybody using a touch screen for 747 (or NG) FMC ?

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I am thinking about getting a touch-screen LCD panel for the FMC. Does anybody here use such a device? If so, does it work well and is it a straightforward affair to dock the FMC onto it? Will it work normally if I run the sim in "windowed" mode?Appreciate any posts, thanks!Jonathan

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Jonathan:I'd be very interested to find out as well- I have been thinking about this approach- MUCH cheaper, and you interface with the sim itself- without the need for additional drivers.If there was a way to rotate the window display (I'm sure there is) then you could mount it in the correct position, with all the cables running from the top side over to the video card and power. Very clean and neat. The problem seems to be finding one the correct SIZE- I really do not want a 14"LCD by my knee- but the smaller ones are considerably more expensive. One of those picture frame display LCDs would be PERFECT- if it were touch screen :(Let me know- I will watch this thread for developments- thanks!Best-Carl F. Avari-Cooper BAW0225http://online.vatsimindicators.net/980091/523.png| XP Pro SP3 | 2 x APC UPS | Coolermaster Stacker 830 SE | Gigabyte P35 DS3R | e8500 @ 4gHz | Tuniq Tower 120 | EVGA 8800GT 512MB | Creative X-Fi Fatal1ty | 2 x 1 GB Corsair XMS2 | 2 x 320GB WD Caviar RAID 0 | Corsair HX620W PS | CH Products Yoke-Pedals-Throttle Quadrant | Aerosoft 747MCP-EFIS-EICAS |

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I use a 19" touchscreen as a second monitor with the OH and FMC shown. The monitor is mounted above the primary monitor, a very basic cockpit setup in the making!If you stretch the FMC a little it makes its useage a lot lot easier and far more realistic. I am also setting up a second PC via MaxiVista with two further monitors, one being a touchscreen which will be placed on its back and to the right of the chair which will display the centre console / FMC. Docking the various panels to the screens is a breeze and really enhances the simming experience.Dave

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Dave:Does the touchscreen work without complex configuring? Can you associate any sim panel with it and just touch or press pushable buttons and switches for it to work?What make touchscreen do you have?Thanks!Jonathan

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I have a small touchscreen which looks about the same size as a real FMC. It works extremely well, once configured.A handful of points (for Vista 64 - I don't know about other o/ses):1) For vertical/portrait orientation: obviously, you need to tell windows to use the portrait orientation. FSX should detect that you have a 2nd monitor. But it does not (in my case) detect the orientation or resolution. You need to edit the FSX.CFG file manually to tell it to use (eg) 768x1024 as the resolution on the relevant Display entry. 2) The default sensitivities work fine. Trying to improve them by fiddling around with the touchscreen driver is disastrous: you risk losing "sync" between the touchscreen and the display.3) Setting the touchscreen driver up is unusually fiddly and counter-intuitive, or it was for me. However, once achieved, it works fine.4) I still have not worked out how to send the FMC automatically to the second screen every time I start up. I must re-size the FMC on the main screen, then drag across to the touchscreen.5) With my Nvidia card, the touchscreen stops working properly if I open any of the FSInn panels. FSInn will work fine in the background and give you radio contact and so on - but when you need to call up one of the panels to fiddle with something, you lose the FMC display. It comes back when you close the FSInn panels.Tim

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Tim-Could you advise the Brand Name and model number of yours so I can research further/purchase? Also, if you have already researched where to get the best deal, please advise that as well.Thanks!Best-Carl F. Avari-Cooper BAW0225http://online.vatsimindicators.net/980091/523.png| XP Pro SP3 | 2 x APC UPS | Coolermaster Stacker 830 SE | Gigabyte P35 DS3R | e8500 @ 4gHz | Tuniq Tower 120 | EVGA 8800GT 512MB | Creative X-Fi Fatal1ty | 2 x 1 GB Corsair XMS2 | 2 x 320GB WD Caviar RAID 0 | Corsair HX620W PS | CH Products Yoke-Pedals-Throttle Quadrant | Aerosoft 747MCP-EFIS-EICAS |

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I had read earlier somewhere that ELO made good touch screens. None are cheap but they are well regarded, it seems.JS

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I use two 19" ELO touchscreens from a Nightclub I used to have! Very easy driver setup (Vista users beware you need to download the new drivers!).Simply install the drivers (don't hook the screens up yet!), then hook up (USB or serial), calibrate the screens (hit the targets with your finger) and away you go. Tell Windows to extend the desktop and move the '2' screen to the correct position, I have one screen over another so I have to move the second monitor every time in the window settings!You will need to rus FS (9 or X) in windowed mode and simply undock the popup windows such as the FMC or overhead and drag to the new monitor.The only thing you can't do with PMDG panels is use some of the round switches that have more than one position other than that it runs great.Don't bother with the cheap ebay touchscreen conversion kits, they're a serious waste of money. They're inaccurate (especially for FMC use) and wear out in no time with serious simming. ELO's are still cheaper than a dedicate MCP or FMC unit it depends on how much money you have and how realistic you want you cockpit to be! Dave

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Hmm, I wonder how that would work with my Triplehead2Go. The TH2G recognizes my 3 LCDs as one giant single monitor of 3840x1024. It runs off one of two dual-DVI outlets on my GTO card.I figured I could prolly attach a 4th monitor (say an ELO screen) to the second dual-DVI outlet to stick an FMC onto it. But would I extend the desktop to do that or would it just be "Monitor 2", or how do you think it would work?JS

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Anyone tried one of these, it looks about the right size and shape and the price seems reasonable.

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That looks like a smarter version of the one I bought. The drivers linked from the page also seem to be updated versions of mine. So, if newer = better, you should be fine.One word on price:

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Hi All,Sorry it took so long, as promised, below are a few pics of setup, including touchscreen on far right:http://www.apolloit.co.uk/_MG_3997-Edit.jpghttp://www.apolloit.co.uk/_MG_4000-Edit.jpgCloseup of touchscreen here (note the panel switcher at the top - really handy for turning off/on panels without the keyboard or mouse!):http://www.apolloit.co.uk/_MG_4004-Edit.jpgCurrently in 1180x768 res, but capable of 1600x1200A note on the smaller screens.... they look ok, but for the money I prefer to have the pri/sec EICAS, the OH, ped, available too etc etc...Cheers.

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Has anybody else had any success in utilising a touch screen? I so hate using my mouse.

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Has anybody else had any success in utilising a touch screen? I so hate using my mouse.
I hear you on not liking to use a mouse. Not only the mouse, but I wanted to get away from having to rely on my CH HOTAS buttons, which becomes messy when flying different aircraft with different functions. You can certainly program different profiles, but often have to assign different functions between aircraft to the same controls.I've ended up with 4 touch screens. I decided that anywhere I had an instrument panel, I'd make it a touch screen. I added 2 17" widescreens to my existing setup, and added touch screen overlays to 2 19" widescreens I already had. Having the extra 'real estate' of the larger screens, versus say an 8" screen, allows the flexibility to place various panels and subpanels on the touch screen(s). I open and close various panels as I need them.I'm quite happy with the outcome, but I was not able to completely get rid of the mouse. 'Right-Clicks' can be tricky sometimes as well. For the FMC (MCDU), it's magic. Ditto for many other controls. I bought everything off of eBay.The other gem is TouchBuddy - I use that on a networked computer to add my own 'controls'. Great piece of software.Attached is an overall view of my setup, which really involves three computers. (These pictures happen to be of the CoolSky Super80 Pro...rest assured I have several PMDG aircraft...the MD-11 being my absolute favorite addon bar none.) The touch screens are where all the panels are located, and the lower left approach plate, which I also use for the TouchBuddy software...just toggle between the two.Noel WBrisbane

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LOL!!!! Noel!!!That is nice!!!Can you pls tell me how did you do all this?I'd like to achieve something similar but I do not even know where to start from!!I have 3 PCs and 4 displays but how do you get a 3 display outside view?What do you run on each of your 3 PCs?Hope you can help me out.ThanksNicola

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I use the Triple Head 2 Go by Matrox for my 3 screener outside view. I never did get the answer on this but you should be able to attach a 2nd TH2Go to the 2nd output on your GPU, attach 3 touchscreen monitors in order to view all of your 2D panels. Most modern PC's could easily handle this.

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LOL!!!! Noel!!!That is nice!!!Can you pls tell me how did you do all this?I'd like to achieve something similar but I do not even know where to start from!!I have 3 PCs and 4 displays but how do you get a 3 display outside view?What do you run on each of your 3 PCs?Hope you can help me out.ThanksNicola
Hi NicolaI'm at work at the moment but will put something more descriptive together later. I started out with one screen, added a couple more...and got carried away I suppose. You can never have too many screens!Noel WBrisbane

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Hi NicolaI'm at work at the moment but will put something more descriptive together later. I started out with one screen, added a couple more...and got carried away I suppose. You can never have too many screens!Noel WBrisbane
Noel,pl see your PM.CiaoNick

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Hi NicolaI'm at work at the moment but will put something more descriptive together later. I started out with one screen, added a couple more...and got carried away I suppose. You can never have too many screens!Noel WBrisbane
Well, I posted a rather long winded description of my system over on the FSX forum, which I won't repeat here. I did manage to include pictures of a PMDG airplane this time.FSX and a Multi Monitor JourneyNoel WBrisbane

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Ha,thats what I liked to do also, the touchscree then..I intend to buy a 19" touch, rotate it 90 degrees, and use it as the 747-400 pmdg pedestal. I will also try to make it in a wooden mdf box, and put the throttle, a saitek one, there too..question: how does the touch behave with such panels ? is the center fmc usable on that scale? buttons/touchspots big enough? can you tell a bit about the usage?Johan

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Hello gents, I'm new to simming, though I did a little corporate flying many years ago.

 

Possible to have two interior panel touchscreens active along with the iPad CDU with a three projector system for the exterior display?  I am thinking FSX and PMDG.

 

Thanks very much

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