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Can anybody give me flightplans fromParis LFPO to:Athens LGAVCairo HECAMadrid LEMDMiami KMIAReykjavik BIKFSan Francisco KSFOSao Paulo SBGRWashington D.C. KIADZurich LSZHAND FROM ALL BACK TO LFPOI would be soooo very thankful.

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por favor?

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Nobody has these or can make them?

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I have all of them except BIKF but please let me some time to post them: Expect by monday or tuesday...Yohann, LFLL.

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Cool beans, thanks Yohann,ZACH

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Hi, for KSFO please check that thread:http://ftp.avsim.com/dcforum/DCForumID69/264.htmlNow, here's SBGR:FLIGHT AF456/05JUL Western (UN741) route 5172NM(FPL-AFR456-IS-A332/H-SIJRWY/SD-LFPG0820-N0478F370 LGL UN872 ERIGA UN741 SNT/M082F370 UN741 NELSO/M082F370UN741 ROSTA/N0477F370 UN741 EDUMO/M082F390 UN741 NANIK/M082F410 UN741JOBER/M082F410 UN741 FLZ/M083F390 UG741 OBGEL/M083F390 UG741 PTL UW13MOGOL/N0472F390 UW13 CNF UB678 IRIBO DCT CURTI DCT-SBGR1118 SBGL-EET/LFRR0023 LECM0105 LPPC0133 LPPO0305 GCCC0306 GVSC0424 GOOO0534SBAO0646 SBRE0751 OBGEL0838 SBBS0959 REG/FGZCB DOF/020705)----------------------------------------------------------------------FLIGHT AF456/06JUL Middle (UN866) route 5169NM(FPL-AFR456-IS-A332/H-SIJRWY/SD-LFPG0820-N0480F350 LGL UN872 ERIGA UN741 TUROP UN872 BEXAL UN866GOMER/N0479F360 UN866 APASO/M082F370 UN866 TENPA/M081F390 UN866MAGNO/M082F390 UN866 VITOR/M083F390 UN866 RIGEL/N0471F390 UN866 CNFUB678 IRIBO DCT CURTI DCT-SBGR1112 SBGL-EET/LFRR0022 LECM0059 LPPC0122 GMMN0212 GCCC0255 GOMER0323 APASO0350GVSC0421 GOOO0524 SBAO0643 SBRE0743 VITOR0828 SBBS0952 REG/FGZCADOF/020706)----------------------------------------------------------------------FLIGHT AF456/07JUL Eastern (UN857) route 5195NM(FPL-AFR456-IS-A332/H-SIJRWY/SD-LFPG0820-N0480F330 PIROG UR106 LCA UN860 SUVAN UZ106 BEBIX/N0480F340 UG21LMG/N0479F330 UN857 SAU/N0480F340 UR10 PPN/N0480F330 UN857SVL/N0482F350 UN857 BIPET/N0478F370 UN857 GUNET/M082F370 UN857DELAX/M082F390 UN857 ERETU/N0472F390 UN857 CLOVE/M082F390 UN857NEURA/M082F390 UN857 REC UA314 SVD UB678 SAGAZ/N0471F390 UB678 IRIBODCT CURTI DCT-SBGR1134 SBKP-EET/LFBB0023 LECM0101 GMMN0207 GCCC0304 BIPET0350 GVSC0435 GOOO0528SBAO0657 SBRE0732 SBBS1010 RIF/CISKO UB678 CNF SBCF REG/FGZCDDOF/020707)--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------FLIGHT AF455/07JUL Middle (UN873) route 5111NM(FPL-AFR455-IS-A332/H-SIJRWY/SD-SBGR2225-N0482F330 DCT BGC UW13 CNF UN873 EVAIR/M081F370 UN873 NTL/M080F380UN873 INTOL/M082F380 UN873 ORARO/M082F380 UN873 ISOKA/N0476F380 UN873LIMAL/N0476F380 UN873 NTS UN741 ANG/N0476F280 UN741 KEPER-LFPG1035 LFPO-EET/SBRE0106 SBAO0314 GOOO0359 GVSC0523 GCCC0620 LIMAL0659 GMMM0747LPPC0831 LECM0858 LPPC0901 LECM0903 LFRR0938 LFFF1009 RIF/GDV UN873SAMAR UA873 BAROK UZ4 ESP CP LPPT REG/FGZCD DOF/020707)----------------------------------------------------------------------FLIGHT AF455/06JUL Western (UN741) route 5118NM(FPL-AFR455-IS-A332/H-SIJRWY/SD-SBGR2225-N0482F330 DCT BGC UW13 MOGOL/M082F330 UW13 KONSA/M081F370 UW13 PTLUG741 OBGEL/M082F370 UG741 FLZ/M080F380 UN741 JOBER/M082F380 UN741CARVE/M082F380 UN741 EDUMO/N0476F380 UN741 ROSTA/N082F380 UN749ABALO/M080F380 UN749 XERES UM420 STG UN741 ANG/N0477F280 UN741KEPER-LFPG1047 LFPO-EET/SBRE0108 OBGEL0225 SBAO0310 GOOO0412 GVSC0527 GCCC0636 LPPO0741LPPC0754 LECM0916 LFRR0945 LFFF1020 REG/FGZCA DOF/020706)For arrival to LFPO just replace ..UN741 ANG/N0477F280 UN741 KEPERby ...UN741 ANG/N0476F260 UN482 NIMER/N0477F250Yohann.

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Thanks Yohann, they all worked wonderful! I found a few SIDS though in some like SFO8. Should I just delete those from the plan because ATC might assign something else? Anyway, thank you so much. You've helped me tremendously. I'll await the others then?ZACH

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SFO8 is just radar vectoring to the appropriate transistion, it's not link to any rwy configuration. You may keep it in your f/p but FS2002 will vector you to overfly SFO VOR before transiting.Here's BIKF, I just builded these with current AIRAC and european regulations:-LFPO0600-N0470F260 AMOGA UT225 VESAN UL613 SOVAT/N0470F360 UL613 TLA UN601STN/M082F380 UN601 ATSIX DCT ALDAN DCT VM DCT SUMEL DCT-BIKFXXXX BIAR BIEG-BIKF1200-M082F370 DCT ALDAN DCT BALIX/N0470F370 UN590 GOW UA1 MID UA34SITET/N0470F270 UA34 LGL-LFPOXXXX LFPGSpd/Alt where choosen quite randomly but they may fit for a B762, except:FL260 or lower is mandatory between AMOGA and SOVAT,FL270 or lower is mandatory between SITET and LGL.Yohann.

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Yohann, I asking you for all these plans. You're so helpful. Now, I want to learn how to build these myself. Can I build ones that follow regulations in FSBUILD? Like, can I download a txt file with regulations or something and plop it into an FSBUILD folder and I'm ready to go or what? How do I know what these regulations are and how does FSBUILD know?ZACH

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Zach,I'm going to show you how I've planned the BIKF-LFPO route:First, I use FSNav to do the following:- Plot a direct great circle route beween dep and dest, to have an overview of the ideal route.- Find which SIDs/STARs apply best for this route. I will use ALDAN as departure fix and LGL arrival.An overview of FSNav:http://ftp.avsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3d3d5dd469184650.jpgFinding a LFPO STAR:http://ftp.avsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3d3d5da768d3be3c.jpgThen I start adding waypoints, using airways whenever possible & and trying not to deviate too far from the great circle. Each time you add a wpt, the great circle route from your current pos to final dest is updated and re-drawn.Be aware too of the one-way airways.Some screenshots of the BIKF-LFPO route:http://ftp.avsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3d3d5e0769861f13.jpghttp://ftp.avsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3d3d5e1d69ad248b.jpgMeantime, I have an eye on eurocontrol restrictions checking the Route Availability Document each time I add an airway:http://www.cfmu.eurocontrol.int/rad/index.htmEntering UK at BALIX and bound to LFPO, my UK exit point must be SITET:http://ftp.avsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3d3d5f0e6b7926f2.jpgAfter SITET I must plan at or below FL270 (UA34 first restriction):http://ftp.avsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3d3d5f426bb2484a.jpgSo the final result is:-M082F370 DCT ALDAN DCT BALIX/N0470F370 UN590 GOW UA1 MID UA34 SITET/N0470F270 UA34 LGLThen choose a suitable alternate, think of your fuel reserve, etc...You can optionnally try do take account to the real weather to optimize your routeing (trying to avoid heavy headwinds)... What you need is high-level winds readable maps. Here's a link not so bad for our need:http://grads.iges.org/pix/analyses.htmlAccording to the most recent european map available, winds are pretty favorables:http://ftp.avsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3d3d6160702bba3f.jpgI hope that was clear,Yohann.

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VERY clear :) Thanks. Now I don't suppose you have website info for NAT, United States, Caribbean, African, basically restrictions for the rest of the world do you? By the way Yohann, your from France, yeah? Have you ever been to Poitiers?ZACH

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Yohann, check this out and make sure I did this like you taught me. Ok, I went into FSBUILD and autogenerated a flight from LFPO to LGAV. Then I went to the RAD website and EDITED it by following the generated airways and makeing sure I followed restrictions. When the airspace called for preferred routing, I aborted airway navigation and went Direct (DCT) from each nav fix to the other like it suggested. Is this correct? Then I jumped back on the airways I was allowed to :) I hope this is airspace legal :) Anyway, here's my rout and just make sure it's all cosure for me, would you? Thanks Yohann, you're a champ :)Flight Plan:LFPO-ROTSI-UL613-RONAK-DCT-BZO-UN606-SPL-DCT-DBK-SPR-DCT-TR-DCT-KONUV-UL607-TIMUR-DCT-TSL-DCT-SKP-DCT-ABLON-DCT-LGAVI hope I'm getting the hang of this...flightplanning is so the shiz.ZACH

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Sorry, I messed up a waypoint. This should be right:Flight Plan:LFPO-ROTSI-UL613-RONAK-DCT-BZO-DCT-PUL-SPL-DCT-DBK-DCT-TR-DCT-KONUV-UL607-TIMUR-DCT-TSL-DCT-SKP-DCT-ABLON-DCT-LGAV

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Hi,I'm afraid you'll have to forget FSBuild auto-generating... :(1. There'e no LFPO SID called ROTSI2. UL613 is a one-way airway, going northwestbound, so strictly forbiden...About the RAD, you may use preferred routing (I do so) but you still have to follow existing airways, unlike in US where you can file DCT...Here's the real thing:FLIGHT AF2332/27FEB 1202NM(FPL-AFR2332-IS-A320/M-SRWY/S-LFPG1725-N0454F350 BUBLI UG42 LUVAL UL851 KUDES UN871 ALGOI UM738 PITAR UN606PUL/N0449F370 UZ740 AIOSA UL862 BRD UL612 NOSTO/N0438F390 UL612ARA/N0447F230 B34 NEMES-LGAV0241 LGIR-EET/LFEE0020 EDFF0029 LSAZ0032 LOVV0038 EDMM0039 LOVV0041 LIMM0047LDZO0102 LIBB0134 LGGG0152 REG/FGFKO DOF/020227)----------------------------------------------------------------------FLIGHT AF1532/02MAR Altn route 1233NM(FPL-AFR1532-IS-A320/+?/?-LFPG0955-N0457F370 MOU UL612 NOSTO/N0444F390 UL612 ARA/N0446F230 B34 NEMES-LGAV0300-RMK/AF 1532)--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------FLIGHT AF1533/25DEC(FPL-AFR1533-IS-A320/M-SRWY/S-LGAV1305-N0445F240 KOR/N0456F350 DCT PIKAD/N0444F240 R193 IXONI/N0457F350UR193 KRK UL995 BRD UM603 MOKTO UM872 OMETO UL615 MOLUS UM729 GALBIUR13 TINIL-LFPG0312 LFPO-EET/LIBB0050 LIRR0137 LIMM0142 LSAG0221 LFMM0225 LSAG0226 LFEE0229LFFF0243 REG/FGFKI DOF/011225)The last one was filed before RVSM was activated... So think now to fly even FL.You must replace MOLUS UM729 GALBI UR13 TINIL by MOLUS UM729 DJL for an LFPO arrival.Yohann.