HiCould someone please suppy me with BA 123 LON-MRU and BA122 MRU-LHRFlight plan for this month.Also with BA LHR-DXB-LHR does the routing not take it over Iran as previous?Thanks

Dubai and back:BAW103EGLL-OMDBB763DOF: 070124EOBT: 0745zN0450F350 DCT DVR UL9 KONAN UL607 AMASI UM149 BOMBI UL984 SULUS UZ650 LITKU UN95 NARKA UB499 REBLA UL620 TGM UL620 CND UL851 ADINA UL851 LAGIR UL851 KUGOS UT33 CRM UT34 SRT UT37 KABAN R784 NOLDO UP975 SIDAD UP975 LONOS UP975 TOLMO UP559 LOTIT A791 DESDI DCT OMDB/0636BAW104OMDB-EGLLB763DOF: 070123EOBT: 2050zN0467F320 DCT RANBI N571 BALUS G462 PIMAL UL768 ALVON UL602 FALKA UL602 TASMI UL602 ALPET R784 KABAN UR21 SRT UL614 EZS UW710 SIV UW72 CRM UT33 SIN UT33 KUGOS UL851 ADINA UL624 TOMET UL624 VAMES UL624 KARIL UY666 LITKU UN95 SLC UL726 BNO UL602 DONAD UL602 RKN UL480 GORLO UL980 LOGAN DCT EGLL/0722An old Mauritius flightplan from 18th October 2006:BAW123EGLL-FIMPB744DOF: 061018EOBT: 1510zN0494F310 DCT MID UN615 XAMAB UL612 MILPA UM730 TOP UL50 ELB UL12 RONAB UL12 PAL UM742 GZO UM732 NAVLO M732 DOLFI B21 ORNAT UB612F MLK UB612F EPLAS UB612 NAK UG650 NV UA609 KISAK UM609 ATOLA UA609 VEMAR UA609G APKOT UA609F TIBAG UM609F PLS DCT FIMP/1055Will try to pick up todays LHR-MRU-LHR plan later.

Mauritius from yesterday:BAW123EGLL-FIMPB744DOF: 070124EOBT: 1545zN0488F330 DCT MID UN615 XAMAB UL612 RESMI UN857 DIRMO UN855 OLRAK UZ131 FJR UM731 SODIO UM732 NAVLO M732 DOLFI B21 ORNAT UB612F EPLAS UB612 NAK UG650 NV UA609 KISAK UM609 ATOLA UA609 VEMAR UA609G APKOT UA609F TIBAG UM609F PLS DCT FIMP/1056BAW122FIMP-EGLLB744DOF: 070125EOBT: 0630zN0510F310 DCT PLS UM609F TIBAG UA609F APKOT UA609G VEMAR UA609 ATOLA UM609 KISAK UA609 NV UG650 NAK UB612 EPLAS UB612F ORNAT B21 INDOT UM622 GZO UM622 ADEXI UZ928 GIANO UL12 ELB UM616 PIGOS UM733 KOPOR UT426 DIMAL UT420 ALESO DCT EGLL/1129

Many thanks

EGCCI know I've raised this point before but never had a clear-cut answer. Your first flight plan begins DCT DVR whict I interpret as Direct to DVR. However, the UK Manual of Air Traffic Services Part 1 states that flight plans that don't begin with a SID will be rejected (at aerodromes where there are published SIDs). The main reason is that SIDs also reflect noise preferential routings. My understanding is that ATC will not route aircraft off a SID until the aircraft has reached 4000 ft because of the noise abatement requirements. Can you explain the reason for DCT to DVR rather than the DVR SID?

Hi,I think thats only with plans from FBo.webI take the plans from another system (CFMU) and there is that not, see here:N0428F330 DVR4G DVR UL9 KONAN UL607 SPI UT180 DITEL T180 BENAK/N0423F230 T180 OSMAX OSMAX1W

>Your first flight plan begins DCT DVR whict I interpret as>Direct to DVR. However, the UK Manual of Air Traffic Services >Part 1 states that flight plans that don't begin with a SID>will be rejectedYou are right, all FPs must start and end with a valid SID/STAR, however my flightplan source does not include the SID/STAR, only the first and last waypoints on the airway system.Therefore DCT DVR is not actually direct Dover in the real flightplan, a SID will of course be included and stated. Likewise when the aircraft returns to London "ALESO DCT EGLL" is not actually ALESO direct, ALESO actually represents the start of the BIG3B STAR into Heathrow (you can download the chart at www.ais.org.uk).So just because the plans I (and some others) post here do not specify a SID/STAR, does not mean there isn't one in the actual flightplan and the crew will follow one, at least until ATC give a revised clearance or vectors.Hope this helps.

Thanks for the replies. They do raise another questions - why doesn't the source used show the SIDs and STARs and where does its information come from?