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Frustrated Metar for KALB this AM OVC 1500 feet, OVC 3500,

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Went to KALB within the hour of the above metar with ASV, mips enabled and everything else set up correctly, looked like nice OVC, didn't hit a cloud on climbout in a 1900D till 6400 feet MSL within 2 miles of KALB! Cleared all weather with FSUIPC at start up of FS9 before refreshing ASV as well. What am i doing wrong, I want nice low IFR to practice approaches as I can with FS2002 and wxRE. Thank you.Doc

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Didn't you report this same issue many weeks ago? I seem to remember there was a long thread which I contributed to where Damian provided reasons why at the end. I believe the reasons he gave then still apply for FS9 with ASV as they did for FS9 with AS2004.5 and why the differ from FS2002 with wxRE (as the weather engine is different between FS9 and FS2002).

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I did in fact. However it was thought that I should wait for and try ASV as things would be more accurate, why, when within 2-3 miles of a reporting station that calls for 1500 OVC does ASV pump in 6500 BKN? I was wondering if my settings were wrong. I have 100% 3D clouds and vis 40 miles. Thanks.

Hi Doc,You answered your own question! A station has exact control for 2.0000 miles. Once you are at 2.1000 miles a blend of stations is used. Now, to totally get around this use the Wx Configurator, set up your own conditions and apply it to EVERY wx station. Make so many OVC layers that you will never be able to see through them, no matter what!! Lower the visibility to 1/4SM and I promise that you will never see the ground!!! We hope that by doing this you can get to look you have been seeking. The wx Configurator is a powerfull addition for users that wish to set up their own conditions! Please let us know your results!Hope this helps,JimActiveSky Sales and Supporthttp://www.hifisim.com/images/asv_dev_team.jpg http://www.hifisim.com/images/asv_proud_supporter.jpg

As I stated a couple weeks ago, this is definately still a problem. But to Jim and Damian. I noticed that you had a direction fix in the service update that corrected 036 from being read as 360, or something like that. Would it be possible to check if the program is either not reading the number in the hundred foot spot, i.e. OVC 00X ("x" being the hundred foot indication) or perhaps it is transposing it somehow?Perhaps the program is reading OVC 003 as OVC 030? or perhaps it is not even reading the 00"X" position? Only once in 30 hours of flying with ASV have a I gotten a low overcast. If you think about it, this would be easy to miss, as everyone is looking for clouds all over, and they are there, just not at the right altitude. Can this solution be looked into or check the way the program is reading the flight levels? Seems pretty simple to check.Otherwise, there are tons of limitations to the clouds from FS9's own limitations that ASV cannot solve. But, THE ALTITUDES ARE STILL WAY OFF!CB

Jim, I have used the weather configurator and apply to all stations. Today for example, at KBOS, there was 1 1/4 sm vis and 500 OVC. I GOT AN AWESOME REPRESENTATION OF LOW VISIBILITY, BUT NO CLOUDS FOR THOUSANDS OF FEET!! Still popped in and out, BOTH in and out of the 2 mile range. Also, at over a 1-2 miles a minute in a small plane, and even more in a jet, 2 miles is only 2 runway lengths at a GA field, and 1 at most airports. That is nowhere near enough. In order to get the right weather, couldn't you just increase the range before blending so that we can just use real weather? That's why we bought the program. I still have to say that ASV may be prettier, but AS2004.5 was a lot less buggy and more accurate. Two weeks of my own testing, as well as other posts give me this impression.CB

Furthermore, every post you reply too, you claim that low visibility is the solution to not seeing the runway. As2004.5 and default MS allow you to not see the runway because of a cloud layer. ASV's solution is to lower the visibility to zero.I have said it before, and I will say it again (as I fly out of airports that are covered by the worst marine layer in the U.S.), you can have great visibility under and above a OVC layer. THEY ARE INDEPENDENT VARIABLES. One should not be used to cover up a fault of the other. Bottom line, look at the differences between AS2004.5 and ASV, thermals, convectivity readings, etc., and figure out why your older product is more accurate. ASV may be prettier in sunset colors, etc., but it is no longer accurately reporting the weather. Can we get an option in ASV to disable most of the "enhancements" that we don't need if they it would produce more accurate reporting? I bought ASV for more accuracy over MS default. FUNNY PART IS, NOW THE MS DEFAULT REAL WEATHER IS EVEN MORE REALISTIC IN CLOUD ALTITUDES!!!! ASV IS DEFINATELY PRETTIER, BUT WAY OFF IN cLOUD ALTITUDES SHOWN VS ALTITUDES REPORTED.You can keep blaming it on .ini settings, or computer configurations, etc, but the fact of the matter is, that something changed between 2004.5 and ASV! As a real pilot, I liked AS2004.5 as it was accurate. Pretty is for gamers. Accuracy is for pilots. CB

Jim, I appreciate it. CB

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Hi, please see reply in other thread...

Damian Clark
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Interesting. Which other thread is Damian referring to. Thanks!DocComm-IFR-SEL

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