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I am running Vista with FSX (SP1) and ASX (Build 1083). Both ASX (default settings) and FSX appear to be working correctly as stand alone programs, but not together. Currently I have FSX at KDAL and ASX appears to be supplying the correct METAR with rain and 1,300 overcast. The METAR for ASX and FSX are in agreement. The problem is the sky is approximately 50% Broken. Another problem I am experiencing is the Winds Aloft. On a recent trip they were reading 250/85, then all of a sudden they will shift to almost the opposite direction at a much lower wind speed. A short time later they will shift back to the correct direction. I feel these two issues are probably related. Thanks for the help,Bill

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Hi Bill,1. We are fully aware of the winds aloft issue in FSX and we are working on this for SP2.2. Some see OVC all the time andfor some it comes and goes. Try increasing the cloud layer slider to 20 and see if that makes a difference.Thanks,Jimhttp://www.hifisim.com/banners/hifi-community-sigbanner.jpghttp://www.hifisim.com/

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>Hi Bill,>>1. We are fully aware of the winds aloft issue in FSX and we>are working on this for SP2.>>2. Some see OVC all the time andfor some it comes and goes.>Try increasing the cloud layer slider to 20 and see if that>makes a difference.>>Thanks,>Jim>Jim,I increased the slider to 20 with no effect. When I looked at the Advanced Custom weather settings, it showed the broken and overcast layer as reported on the METAR. In the Custom screen with the basic setup, that screen is only showing a scattered layer. For some reason this information is not transfering to the screen.Bill

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Hi Bill,Is this every single time or did it happen once or something in between? Are you running SP1 of FSX and ASX?Were you located at the exact airport?Is FSX weather set to User Defined?If you chose Clear weather in FSX and then refresh ASX does the correct weather show up?Please let us know.Thanks,Jimhttp://www.hifisim.com/banners/hifi-community-sigbanner.jpghttp://www.hifisim.com/

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>Hi Bill,>>Is this every single time or did it happen once or something>in between? >>Are you running SP1 of FSX and ASX?>>Were you located at the exact airport?>>Is FSX weather set to User Defined?>>If you chose Clear weather in FSX and then refresh ASX does>the correct weather show up?>>>Please let us know.>>Thanks,>Jim>I am running SP1 for FSX and ASX.I am located at KDAL on the NW side. When I move the aircraft to KDFW (5 miles east) the weather appears to be correct. It almost appears that there is a bad weather station being reported, possibly KNBE (not in use). All stations in the KDFW/KDAL area should have had low ceilings and rain the past weekend (11/24-25).FSX is set to User Defined. The weather reported in User Defined appears close to the METAR. I have tried using Clear weather and Stormy weather in FSX and after the ASX refresh the weather goes bad to the same problem as before (partly cloudy, rain, and the sun shining).Bill

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>Hi Bill,>>Thanks for the details! What happens now in that area? I just>want to see if it was bad data or something else, like that>not in use station.>>Thanks!>JimJim,The Advanced WX is showing Cirrus at 30,000 with 6/8 coverage. The ATIS is saying "No clouds below 20,000 and Vis greater than 20 miles." The METAR for KDAL is showing BKN300.When I look at the cloud cover it appears as a high broken layer (cirrus) with some stray CU at about 100. Looking at the XGauge, it shows some Blue airports and some Gray airports. All of the Gray airports do not have METAR reports. One of the airports is reported twice (KGKY/KF54) which is Arlington Muni. The KF54 is no longer a valid identifier for Arlington Muni and there is no METAR. There is a METAR for KGKY. Bill

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>Hi Bill,>>That description you gave sounds right for those conditions.>>JimThat's because it's not a lot different from when it was suppose to be overcast and raining.Have you downloaded the 11-24-2007 at 18:00Z weather and moved an aircraft to KDAL to see what the weather looks like? I can manually load the weather and make it look like it should, but when ASX loads the weather, it does not look correct.Bill

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Jim,I am starting to get very frustrated with ASX. The first problem was the cloud cover. Now I am having problems with tremedous wind shifts. On December 1 at about 16Z I tried three times to fly from KPIT to KPHL. Each time when passing approximately 11,000 the airspeed indicator pegged and the aircraft came apart. I finally had to use the FSX winds to complete the flight. Tonight when going from KCMH to KDAL at FL320 about 150 miles NW of LIT the winds go from 280@80 to 021@5 and then back to 280@80. Never during the whole flight have the winds been within 20 knots of the forecasted winds or 20 degrees of the forecasted direction. Bill

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>>It is not our fault and we are doing everything humanly>possible to fix it.>I have installed SP2 and turned on "Enable Wind Smoothing" and the wind switching is still not fixed. Today at 2120Z about 20 miles west of LIT VOR at FL340 on a flight from KCMH to KDAL the wind switching returned. At first the wind switched back and forth rapidly and then became steady from the NE at about 60 knots. The winds should be from 270 at 70 kts. If this is not "our" fault as stated above, then whose fault is it?What do I do now? Bill

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>Feel free to let Microsoft know about their SimConnect.dll and>the problems it is causing you.>>You can also try with Virtual Stations turned Off and see if>that helps.>Virtual Stations was turned off.Why do I want to contact Microsoft about "SimConnect.dll"? My problem is with ASX not performing properly. I did not buy ASX from Microsoft, I bought ASX from HiFi Simulations.It appears I have three options left concerning the winds aloft problem:1. Turn the winds aloft "off".2. Manually load the winds aloft.3. Uninstall ASX and just use FSX. Thanks,Bill

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Hi Bill,Do you realize that it is SimConnect that is the interface that is causing these winds problems and not ASX?We are working so very hard to solve this for everyone, not just sitting back and saying "Oh well, nothing we can do."So you are right, those are your options, while we continue to attempt to crack this nut. And we may never solve it completely, but we won't go down without a fight.If you use option 2 please know that when ASX updates, you will lose your manual settings.Thanks,Jimhttp://www.hifisim.com/banners/hifi-community-sigbanner.jpghttp://www.hifisim.com/

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Jim,After attempting to use ASX today on a local flight at KDAL, I have come to the conclusion that ASX does not work. The METAR at KDAL 32015G19 with of 36F (this is the weather for all of north Texas). The weather showing for KDAL using FSX (updated by ASX) is winds from the SE with a temperature of 53F. The weather showing on the Briefing screen in ASX is correct, but ASX does not appear to be able to get it to FSX. The winds were out of the SE yesterday and the temperature was about 53F for a low. I turned ASX off and updated the weather using FSX weather update and the weather in FSX is correct. Bill

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Also make sure you have not enabled "theme" weather after ASX connects, as this disables FSX's ability to accept "external wx". You need to ensure you are on "Custom User-Defined" weather. ASX does this automatically on connection but if its changed afterwords (reloading a certain flight with theme wx, for example, or manually changing theme via FSX dialogs) it will disable ASX wx.Best,

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>Hi Bill,>>I just flew around KDAL a bit and everything was correct. Have>you tried resetting ASX to default settings?>>Thanks,>Jim>I tried setting ASX to default. This helped some, but the "wind smoothing" had the winds at KDAL at 260/09 when the actuals are 350@11. The winds off 90 degrees is unacceptable. When I turn the "wind smoothing" off the 180/flip-flop returns. When I looked at the winds flip/floping on the FSX weather map it looked like a "minature" hurricane. Before I reset ASX to default, my only change was to "Dynamic Rate of Change" which was set at 25% instead of the default 50%. Is the 25% setting capable of causing the weather problems I was having? Am I expecting too much from ASX by thinking that the METAR and Winds Aloft shown from the NWS would be accurately reflected in ASX and FSX?Bill

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Hi,In order to help prevent wind shifts, the data has to be smoothed to be made consistent without large directional changes.We use the flight plan cruise altitude (or default to 30K if no cruise altitude) as the base of "real data" to figure maximum "left" and "right" variations from this "real data". The surface winds are modified to remain within 30 degrees left or right (60 degrees total) of this "real data" baseline. Without applying this data smoothing (as well as all the other techniques), as you are experiencing, wind shifts will occur in greater frequency. We of course want users to be able to properly plan their flight considering data smoothing so we modify the weather and the METAR string along with placing a "RMK" showing how the surface winds were changed (from which original direction).Thus, when using wind smoothing you should consider the data provided by ASX vs. actual "real" forecast/observation data.Unfortunately there is no way to have the best of all worlds right now (accurate directions & reduced wind shifts), as FSX wind depiction of external weather is problematic. We're just trying to do all we can to address our user's concerns and make things as great as possible.We are of course taking all this input and using it to direct us as we continue to make things better.I'd also like to say to all that while it has sometimes been 'assumed' that solving the wind shifts in FSX is an easy feat (from various threads recently), consider that we have been working on this for over 2 years now with over 1000 man hours devoted to it. We have tried over 100 unique "solutions". Let it be known that even if you take the SAME direction and velocy of winds, and apply it GLOBALLY to ALL STATIONS, forcing this same wind value at the aircraft and everywhere else, you are still going to experience significant wind shifts and seemingly random directions. The problem is internal to FSX. Limiting the wind shifts therefor requires a huge investment of resources and time in trial and error trying all sorts of "outside the box" techniques. We realize SP2 isn't perfect, and we didn't promise perfect. We do however promise to continue doing all we can to make things better.Thanks for the feedback, please keep it coming..Best,

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>Hi Bill,>>Look at the KDAL METAR in ASX. Does yours say RMK SFCWINDDIR>CHANGED FROM 350 FOR SMOOTHING?>>Thanks,>Jim>Jim, I saw the smoothing in the METAR and am well aware that ASX changed the winds and that is my very point. The smoothing changed the wind direction almost 90 degrees.All I want is to be able to fly from point A to point B and experiece the weather conditions that are reflected in the current METAR and Winds Aloft. Bill

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