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Folks,If you want a full featured, working and REAL Garmin 430 or 530 go to http://www.fsavionics.com/ and take a look at their offerings.I own both the 430 and 530 and both are VERY VERY nice. Since the FSAvionics are using the REAL Garmin Trainer & associated Jeppesen database this add-on is spot on.Bob Lyddy

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You have got to be kidding me - they have the interstates on the HSI map mode??!! Umm, this is getting crazy! Count me in on buying this one...

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Bob:As I'm sure your aware, the GNS 530 has the ability to fly a fully coupled ILS approach with Vectors to Final.Just wondering if you could enlighten us as to the procedure, and some of the features enabled by the GNS 530 during execution.And I'm interested in which plane you favor using the Garmin.Thanks, and Best Regards!Ben BeverlyLead Beta Test PilotFlight1 Malibu MeridianBen's Hangar

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Hmmm. Well I guess you know which one is mine Ben. ;-) The one that comes stock with a full blown Garmin 530 based upon the very same database and trainer program, but it also provides a full HSI / VOR / A/P integration + Meggitt Magic Avionics + STEC Autopilot + Accurate System Logic + highly detailed Gmax model + Sounds + Accurate Flight Model for how much less? Oh well. never mind...:7 I have said too much already. :7Best,Jim Rhoadsp.s. I forgot to mention the RXP Garmin 530 is also a true gauge, not a window and renders perfectly accurate in the VC environment. Dang, I said too much again.. :-zhelp

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Hi Ben,I use the FS Avionics Garmins (both the 530 and 430) in the F1 Golden Eagle, Dreamfleet's Cardinal, Eurowings ATR and Bae146, Espen O's awesome Fokker 50, the F1 DC-9, Oleksiy's Dash 8 and Capt Sim's 727-100. Since it is a GPS, there is no reason why not to use the FS Garmins. Still use the FMS in the DF 737, PSS 747, and PIC 767 and the MCDU on the PSS Airbus.Sometimes I use the FSGarmin to drive the autopilot, sometime I simply use heading select and fly the heading the Garmin tells me. The FS Avionics Gatrmins are simply awesome! .. both the FS Garmin 430 and 530This is not to say that I won't love the Meridian when it is published.Cheers and Happy New Year!!!

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Hi Paul:When I see statements such as this:"If you want a full featured, working and REAL Garmin 430 or 530..."it really makes me wonder if this GNS 530 will fully couple to FS2002 A/Ps and allow such features as Vectors-to-Final to be fully implemented.Regards, and Happy New Year to you!;-)BenBen's Hangar

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Bob,Sounds like the Reality GNS will be no worse (and could be better) than the one from FSAvionics - just looking at clear ultra-sharp graphics makes you salivate - and I am not sure I wanna pay twice ...The only advantage I possibly see in the FSAvionics is the fact that it is modular and can be used with other aircraft .. but I am a weird guy and actually prefer a fully integrated unit. ;-)Michael J.

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The FSAvionics Garmin does look great... but it is not a gauge. If you have FSNav, it is the same concept right... a pop up module?I do not own the FSAvionics Garmin, but aside from the interface... what does it do that FSNav could not duplicate. (Truly interested, not just trying to stir up debate... I'd just like to know from somebody who has tried/owns both.)

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Hey Tabs,Yeah, the FSAvionics G530/430 has been out for a while and replicates the Garmins about as accurately as I'll ever need!http://www.fsavionics.com/Here I am flying IFR (I Follow Roads):) along State road 19 just North of KATL on my way to Blairsville. That's Lake Lanier I'm flying over.http://ftp.avsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3e0e7ef767b4b7a2.jpgYou can customize how much detail you want in each level of zoom. (This is a real feature of the Garmin). You can use the Garmin in any aircraft you want and it can be moved onto a separate monitor (which is really nice, trust me!)Ok, one more showing the Garmin setting up the ILS 27 into KRYY. It just takes a few button pushes and knob turns to set it all up. It's almost too easy!http://ftp.avsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3e0e81766cb6a566.jpgRegards,Steve Dra

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>I do not own the FSAvionics Garmin, but aside from the >interface... what does it do that FSNav could not duplicate. > (Truly interested, not just trying to stir up debate... I'd >just like to know from somebody who has tried/owns both.) You probably won't find anyone that tried both yet. I certainly am not an expert on either unit but if you read carefully all the available info some items stand out as possible differentiating factors (I warn - these are my OWN conjectures).1. Reality's GNS530 is fully integrated with the rest of avionics (autopilot, etc.) - same as on the real Meridian.2. Reality's GNS530 may benefit from Reality's proprietary display system - jaggies-free graphics with silky smooth updates.Michael J.

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Hi Michael and all,There would be no reasons the Meridian GNS530 would provide less information / features than any other GPS based upon the Garmin Trainer. Reality XP GNS530 features a real integration of the A/P + EHSI and YES, Reality XP GPSs DO display a correct TRACK... As stated in a press release and on reality xp web site, there is no reason it is not offered as a standalone GPS in a near future too and Reality XP always stated that customers of Flight Line Avionics will automatically be granted the right to get a standalone version at a very competitive price as soon as it is available. Other options will follow shortly after the release of the Meridian. Hope this helps!

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Hey Eco,I've used FSnav 4.x forever and love it to death! I also have the FSAvionics 530 and I can tell you a few things it can do that FSNav can't:1. Show roads, lakes and railroads. This feature of the Garmin brings true vfr sight-seeing flights to a whole new level! I was quickly amazed about how many real roads are accurately reproduced in Flightsim 2002! You just look at the Garmin display, see a road marked with its correct sign, then look out the window and see that road below you...very cool! Try it in your hometown and you'll see what I mean. :) 2. Calculate MSA. Its been a while since I've tried it, but I think I remember trying this feature flying from one mountainous area to another. It updated the MSA as I flew and kept me off the mountaintops. :)3. VS profile. This is a pretty nice feature. You can set it up to descend at a certain rate and be at a target altitude at a target position. Let's say you want to descend at 1400fpm and want to be at 3000ft, 10 miles from the airport. Just dial in those numbers and the Garmin will let you know when you need to start descending at 1400fpm to hit that target. But the best thing is that it also shows a VSR (Vertical Speed Required) window that tells you what VS you need at to descend at if you couldn't hit your original VS profile! A perfect example of when to use this is if ATC holds you at an altitude for other traffic during your nicely profiled descent, and you still need to hit those targets...but 1400fps won

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So does this mean it includes a database of all GPS Approaches or do you have to manually add them? And if there's already a database included, is it easy to edit that database to add new approaches as they are published?Jason

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Steve : how is it possible to make such a comment ? The limitations of the module approach are well known. You can't resize, re-scale, add a module to a 2D panel let alone a virtual cockpit. Try doing this with any module :http://www.fsd-international.com/temp2/rxpgns530_fsdsv.jpgThat is just a rough panel edit without the correct VC textures to suit the gauge.Michael's opening comment earlier was correct and Michael J does know his avionics I'll give him that. This really is exciting programming by Jean-Luc and it is hard not to be enthusiastic about this sort of innovation ... it's so darn smooth.

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Yes, Jeppesen database does include GPS approaches. But as to your second question I wonder whether real GNS530 has such feature. You are not likely to see something implemented that does not exist in the real unit.Michael J.

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Garmins database updates are a subscription base product that is updated on a 28 day cycle.Regards,Jim Rhoadsp.s. This is for the realworld units. I fly 3 different aircraft that have either 430's or 530's in them and I think it is about $75.00 a pop for the updates. Could be more now, I havent checked latly and I dont buy them. ;-)

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OMG Steve - that VC shot is unreal!! I'm really getting excited for this plane - how long are we looking at (approx.) before it's released?

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We have slipped the 4th quarter.Many things have come up and we want to do the best job possible on this aircraft. We still anticipate no problem with a January delivery.And no, dont ask me which day...;-) Regards,Jim Rhoads

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