BFG 8800GTXIntel Core 2 Duo E6600MSI K9N NEO-FOCZ 2GB PC2-6400 DC Plat Rev 2WD 74 GB SATA Raptor - just for FSXWD 160 GB Sata 2 - for Windows XPAntec 650W TruePower Trio PSULG GSA DVD/RWCreative SB X-Fi ExtremeAlso considering the HD install/partitioning stagedy post for operating system and partition.Thanks,

Looks very sweet and will run FSX just fine as long as you are conservative on the water and autogen settings. You may want to consider whether you want to wait for the ATI R600, which is supposed to be an 8800 killer, to either get one or to pick up an 8800 for much cheaper once it is out. Something like a 7600 could tide you over if the wait is going to be a couple of months or so. Gary

>BFG 8800GTX>Intel Core 2 Duo E6600>MSI K9N NEO-F>OCZ 2GB PC2-6400 DC Plat Rev 2>WD 74 GB SATA Raptor - just for FSX>WD 160 GB Sata 2 - for Windows XP>Antec 650W TruePower Trio PSU>LG GSA DVD/RW>Creative SB X-Fi Extreme>>Also considering the HD install/partitioning stagedy post for>operating system and partition.>>Thanks,>Why not go with two 74Gb Raptors instead and set them at RAID0 ?

>>Why not go with two 74Gb Raptors instead and set them at RAID0>?>He could do that, and it would be fast.Some people don't like RAID0 because it does have drawbacks vis a vis fault tolernace.This is the first I've heard of AMD's/ATI's new "8800 killer" gpu.RhettAMD 3700+ (@2310 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2 GB Corsair XMS 2.5-3-3-8 (1T), WD 250 gig 7200 rpm SATA2, CoolerMaster Praetorian case

Ehrrm,The K9N Neo-F is an AMD AM2 motherboard...............

>This is the first I've heard of AMD's/ATI's new "8800 killer">gpu.I was just paraphrasing what was posted in this thread: http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=sho..._id=23035&page=Whether it has substance or not, I have no idea!Gary

>>This is the first I've heard of AMD's/ATI's new "8800>killer">>gpu.>>>I was just paraphrasing what was posted in this thread:>http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=sho..._id=23035&page=>>Whether it has substance or not, I have no idea!>>GaryNo I don't doubt you at all. I was just thinking that I have not been keeping up with the tech scene lately too much and you probably have. It does kind of stand-to-reason that ATI/AMD will come up with a DX10 card soon anyway.RhettAMD 3700+ (@2310 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2 GB Corsair XMS 2.5-3-3-8 (1T), WD 250 gig 7200 rpm SATA2, CoolerMaster Praetorian case

ATI will have their DX10 cards out in a month or so, it doesn't matter if they will be faster than Nvidea's current DX10 G80 series, hopefully they will be, but the mere fact they will arrive and be as close as dammit if not faster will put prices down for us all and promote even more competition from those 2 company's, that only we can benefit from :)The top end Nvidea G8800GTX cards are silly money just now, purely because they hold a short lived performance crown.I'm no ATI vs Nvidea a really excited user, I'll go where the price and performance takes me :) But I'm not upgrading until both ATI and Nvidea have comparable products on the market, that will be quite soon .. and it will be the best bang for buck, high end card that wins my money.

Gary - Thanks, that ATI R600 sure sounds sweet.Jacek - Thanks, it was the cost of the 2 Raptors preventing me from purchasing.giharral - Thanks, sorry it was the MSI P965 Neo - F MB.Thanks for the input,Ken

Ken,As a user of the P965 Neo, I can recommend you get something else.Let me know if you would like more details.Glenn

>>>>Why not go with two 74Gb Raptors instead and set them at>RAID0>>?>>>>He could do that, and it would be fast.>>Some people don't like RAID0 because it does have drawbacks>vis a vis fault tolernace.>>This is the first I've heard of AMD's/ATI's new "8800 killer">gpu.>>>Rhett>>AMD 3700+ (@2310 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS>A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2 GB Corsair XMS 2.5-3-3-8 (1T), WD>250 gig 7200 rpm SATA2, CoolerMaster Praetorian caseHave been using Raptor 74's RAID-0 since they were introduced, on both Promise and NVidia setups. I have had 0 problems.Yes indeed, they are fast. I have a Seagate regular SATA set up as drive D:, seems like a snail.

>Have been using Raptor 74's RAID-0 since they were introduced,>on both Promise and NVidia setups. I have had 0 problems.>Yes indeed, they are fast. I have a Seagate regular SATA set>up as drive D:, seems like a snail.>>Good to know, as my new PC (after ACES will address all the issues) will be set up. I will also include 120G SATA for storage. Which sim are you running with both of those Raptors?

>>Have been using Raptor 74's RAID-0 since they were>introduced,>>on both Promise and NVidia setups. I have had 0 problems.>>Yes indeed, they are fast. I have a Seagate regular SATA set>>up as drive D:, seems like a snail.>>>>>>Good to know, as my new PC (after ACES will address all the>issues) will be set up. I will also include 120G SATA for>storage. >Which sim are you running with both of those Raptors?>>>I'm running both fs9 and FSX.On my AMD Quad w/2 FX74's I can max out every thing in fs9. I fact I can throw everything at it.With FSX I have global maxed and autogen about 75%, the rest are roughly the same. FSX runs smooth as silk at 40 FPS +- 2-3 FPS depending where I am.I built this system and I'm happy with it. I expect to upgrade the proc's when AMD releases the Agena dual core Barcelona cpu's.Next week I will install Vista Utlimate Edition. I plan to dual boot Win XP and Vista. I intend to install both OS's and flight sims on the Raptor drives. At some point I may have to use 2 Raptor 250GB drives, will see.I use the Seagate 90GB for vid files, it could be larger also.Also have 2 more GB's of Corsair memory to add with Vista. XP see's all 2 gig's now, only see's 2.7 with 4 gig's and XP. Performance was actually a bit slower with 4 gig's in XP.NVidia's drivers for Vista may not be up to snuff, so to speak, and the reason to dual boot the OS's. Good luck on your build!

>On my AMD Quad w/2 FX74's I can max out every thing in fs9. I>fact I can throw everything at it.>With FSX I have global maxed and autogen about 75%, the rest>are roughly the same. FSX runs smooth as silk at 40 FPS +- 2-3>FPS depending where I am.That's pretty impressive, considering Tom's hardware rates the FX74's performance below C2D is just about every test they ran and no one here that I know pulls those sort of FPS at those settings in FSX with a C2D anything. A few screenies might help justify your claim!Gary

>>On my AMD Quad w/2 FX74's I can max out every thing in fs9.>I>>fact I can throw everything at it.>>With FSX I have global maxed and autogen about 75%, the rest>>are roughly the same. FSX runs smooth as silk at 40 FPS +->2-3>>FPS depending where I am.>>That's pretty impressive, considering Tom's hardware rates the>FX74's performance below C2D is just about every test they ran>and no one here that I know pulls those sort of FPS at those>settings in FSX with a C2D anything. A few screenies might>help justify your claim!>>GaryYou have now!! :)This is with an E6700 (Not OC'ed), 2GB Mem, and ATI X1950 XTX. I had originally had autogen tweaked 800 trees 600 buildings, and got even better FPS. Then I set it back to 3000 trees, and 3000 buildings. to check something out, and to my surprise, I still got good FPS. It does dip into the high teens to twenties in really dense areas like New York., but most other ares does very well.PS. Forgive the quality of the second shot, I messed up the jpeg conversion, but I think you get the idea!!http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/165901.jpghttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/165902.jpghttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/165903.jpg