It's rare to see FSX used in motherboard reviews. Overclockers Club has reviewed all three Abit P35 boards using FSX in separate reviews, hereIP35 Pro - http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/ip35__pro/IP35 - http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/ip35_darkraider/IP35E - http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/ip35economy/and X-bit Labs has a review of the Pro model (without FSX usage) here that makes this a leading contender for plopping in that lovely G0 Q6600 in the very near future. :-jumpy :-jumpy http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboard...t-ip35-pro.htmlWhen I checked Abit's USA site, the manuals weren't available for download yet, but these reviews pretty much suffice for me to lean heavily toward the IP35 Pro.-Seadog

It's good to see my "old" Gigabyte DS3 giving in the middle of the pack against the IP35E and even besting a 680i system :-)Gary

I've been leaning towards the Asus deluxe board, but I don't really need the Wifi feature. I've seen some knocks on the "new" Abit in the past but maybe they are getting past that?scott s..

>It's good to see my "old" Gigabyte DS3 giving in the middle>of the pack against the IP35E and even besting a 680i system>:-)>>GaryThat means you have done well, grasshoppa. :)I guess Abit is going to eventually put out an "IP35-E Deluxe" or something like that, probably as a SLI-capable version of this baseline model being reviewed in the article.RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian

It might be worth taking a second look, Rhett, as I may not have been clear enough. There are three separate reviews from Overclockers of three distinctly different boards. The "E" model is the baseline, indeed, the plain IP35 is the middling one, and the IP35 Pro is what you are anticipating as an "IP35-E Deluxe." The X-Bit Labs review is also of the top of the line board, the IP35 Pro. Sorry if it wasn't clear they were three separate motherboards encompassing the full line.In fact, the X-bit Labs review of the IP35 Pro is the most persuasive of them all. Let me quote from the review:"Overclocking and Performance TestsThis is usually a pretty long chapter of every mainboard review on our site. This is where we share all the frustrations and problems we face during our overclocking experiments, describe the search for optimal voltage settings, numerous reboots and CMOS clearing

Ah you are right, I didn't notice it was a three part review on each board. I just read the one on the -E model/baseline.Good that they are making a top-end model already.RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian

My old Abit IS7 is still running like a champ. Maybe I waited long enough for them to make a comeback. We don't want to be fighting that silly strap nonsense. The 3X series should go to 500mhz by just turning that little crank. Watch the Asus board. An early engineering sample ran CPU (core) temps 10-15C higher than the other contenders at both idle and load (BTW, that's a loT). This could really cause problems as we are gonna be O/C-ing. With Q6600's 9X multiplier, we gotta be able to get at least cool, happy, stable 400Mhz+ FSB /3.4Ghz++ (4 each!) CPU speeds. I like Asus adding the wireless. I'm trying to de-cable the place. Have you looked under the desk lately? It's scary down there. I want to run a separate wireless router from a remote "server closet" somewhere. No more ethernet cables to anything. On the other hand, it's just a "G." We're gonna need that "N" for HD transfers round the network. Hummm, jury's still out.What's up with the X38. PCI-e 2.0? Is there anything else? Notice Asus split its 2 PCI-e 1.1 Vcards slots to 8 lanes each. The other folks have them at 16 lanes for the primary V-slot and 4 lanes for the second Vcard slot. What does this mean? Asus is saying that 8 PCI-e 1.1 lanes are plenty of bandwidth for anything that is even on the drawing boards. 16 lanes utterly useless. I've seen several reviews that tested 8800GTX single and SLI'd with both 16 and 8 lanes. There was no performance difference. Nvidia's 680i's 16 lanes X 2 was entirely marketing jabber, but entirely successful marketing jabber. Intel felt this jabber was so "believed" that an 8X board will not sell. Asus de-engineered this albatross and I say good for Asus.But the marketeers are not stopping. In 5 weeks we will have PCI-2.0 (with the X38) that doubles PCI-e 1.1's available bandwidth. That's just doubly useless. Are we future proofing? Consider: AGP 8X ended its life at transfer rates of 2.1Gb/s. Guess what 8 lanes of PCI-e1.1 can do? 2.0Gb/s. To interpolate a bit, Asus seems to be saying that old AGP 8X buss is StiLL plenty.What else does that X38 have? You guys know about skulltrail, right? http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,2114940,00.aspNow I like this one. For an extra $250 (one more Q), I get another quick double of ReaL horespower. CPU advances are going to be more about number of cores. That's where the software devs are going. Also, I think this Core2 design is going to be about it until Fusion. It's just going to be more tweakin' from here until we finally get the GPGPU based systems (Fusion). An 8 core, C2 system might let one kick back and forget about the upgrade game for quite a while.