Hello all!I've built from scratch several pcs over the years primarily based around specs to run MSFS with the high frames. A couple of years back, I started tinkering with overclocking and have been somewhat successful considering the processor (an Intel 3.4 oc'd to 3.8 mghz).Now I'm planning a new build, likely with the Intel 6750 processor and contemplating the plunge into water cooling.It seems like such a chore to setup and maintain. That's not to mention what seems like a complex situation to begin with.Can any of you advise of your experience with water cooling, if you're happy with it, was it worth the trouble, etc.? Are you using a kit or did you custom build.Thanks.Ed Lin, D.O.S.

I can give you a huge update on WC, cuz I've been in the same situation.There is a shop here in Vienna, and these guys have been very helpful. Gave me all I needed for a complete watercooling and to set it up.If it's the components you need some help with, I can give you some pointouts, but probably where you're from, you will have other components available...Chore to setup? Well, yes, it's definitely couple of hours of work, its not as simple as click and done, like with the air cooling.To maintain? Like, every 3-4 months pour in a little water? (it dissipates with time, no matter how good you close it). And maybe every 2-3 years put it all apart, clean, and set up again. I don't call that high maintenance.Only big disadvantage is that if you want to take the hardware out, exchange the graphic card (if its watercooled), exchange the CPU, anything that is interconnected, you have to take the water out, then disconnect carefully, with lots of towels, so nothing gets wet etc...Did it myself couple of times, its not such a big deal, but it sure ain't easy as aircooling.In my opinion, definitely worth the work, cuz 1) you get much lower temperatures 2) you can barely hear your PC any more.But to achieve 2), you have to put most of the components under watercooling. Meaning, CPU, GPU, HDD at least. And also chipset if your mainboard has an aircooler for that. Pump will also needs its own housing so that it keeps absolutely silent...My cooling costed around 600

Hi Word Not Allowed!I can be reached at [email protected] it's not too much trouble, I'd be curious to simply know what products you've used for your watercooling. (I am about to go away for a long weekend. I will have access to e-mail but possibly not a pc. I'll be back Sunday night so no rush.)Thanks!Ed Lin, D.O.S.

Here's my experience thus far on my rig. Pics below. I use a Swiftech pump system in a Thermaltake Armor tower case. I water cool the CPU (FX-60) and the two GPUs (7900GTX). This is my first water setup, and the system is almost two years old now. While not as fast as the newest top of the line systems, I still get 20 FPS in Seattle on the ground with sliders near the max and Ultimate Terrain and Traffic X set to 30% airliner and 25% GA in FSX SP1

I was going to go with water cooling when I came up with what I believe is a much better solution. It is not exactly quiet (au contraire!), but if noise were an issue for me I have a pretty easy solution, it's just that it is not *that* noisy.Before I describe how I accomplished this piece of pretty easy to install solution, I have to give you my performance stats, temperature wise, that is. I am o'clocked, with a standard retail HSF, from the default 3.06GHz (it's a older P4), to a handy 3.48Ghz, requiring only modest bump up in Vc. I am also overclocking my old 6800 GT/OC:CPU under max load: 54-56CMainboard sensor on my ASUS P4G8X Deluxe: 21CGPU: 62CCheetah 15K.3 15K RPM SCSI U320 drives x 3: 23CHere's what I did, which I am oh so happy with:1. Ordered a SHARP 10K BTU thru-the-wall air conditioner: $2292. Installed it: ~1 hour job involving cutting a hole in the wall and sheetrock, and sliding the unit in, trimming it out. It plugs into to a standard 110v outlet.I took side panel off my Lian Li aluminum case, and have the PC sitting parallel to the outlet from the A/C unit. The unit has a remote, so I can run this very quiet (for an A/C unit) air conditioner anywhere between max cool (64F) and 84F, with fan only (3 speed) or with A/C (also 3-speed), so I have very good control over the amount of cooling, and when not doing anything intensive, I don't run it at all. The unit is very efficient, has not impacted by utility bill in a meaningful way, and the beauty of all beauties is: it will cool any future PC upgrades--with no hassles.If the ergonomics of your situation might allow for this sort of thing, definitely consider it. I got the idea from my brother, who did the same thing in his PC room. As a side note, my PC room warms up a bit much in the summer, so this helps just great. In the winter I can often get away with higher temp settings so the A/C component may only kick in intermittently.Noel

I read your both posts, and I can give some right to Noel, I just cannot understand how you both can claim that water cooling solution is not silent? Even "au contraire".My setup is overclocked, and I can barely hear it. Temperatures all normal even when everything running full speed for a longer period of time. I never measured my water temperature to be over 45C. Playing games, simming, whatever I do, it's stable and SILENT - I have never measured it in dB, but if I had to guess, I'd say it's not more than 30dB (total).So please, tell me, how did you build your water cooling setup that it's so loud???

best and Warm RegardsAdrian

Hi Word Not Allowed, have you any knowledge about useing no-conductive substitute fluids insead of water?http://www.svc.com/fxpextmb32.htmlhttp://www.overclockersonline.net/index.ph...&num=244&pnum=0http://www.integrity-pc.com/#http://www.fluidxp.com/Best and Warm RegardsAdrian Wainer

Nah, didn't know for exactly this one, but I heard about other similar products.But tell you the truth, I don't need such additives. I have enough performance as it is, and I don't want to thrust any more money into this. Already costed me over 600

I take your point but if I ever went the liquid cooling route I would go for an inert fluid rather than water to make the rig safer in the case of possability of a leak.Best and Warm RegardsAdrian Wainer Bye the way I use thermotalke "big typhoon" air-cooler it is better than the stock cooler which came with my AMD Athlon 939 4800 dualcore and is is very inexpensive compared to liquid cooling http://www.overclockercafe.com/Reviews/coo...Tt_Big_Typhoon/Best and Warm RegardsAdrian Wainer

And of course . . . there is no problemo with leaking water into my PC.Go Air!

First of all, the water I used is the distilled water (I don't know if that's the right word!), which, if spilled, can be dried and no problemo...And 2nd, there has been a very very long time since someone or anyone had a spill. If you build it right, it will work for a very long time.

The water cooling itself is very quiet. What's not quiet is the rest of what's in the box. This said, I should probably qualify the "noise" level, in that the primary culprits are the 10Krpm HDDs and the variable speed power supply, and the heavy airflow needed on the video memory/mofsets to keep the temperatures in check.And noise is relative, in that it's not any noiser than a regular aircooled desktop, even though there's quite a bit of air moved in the case.Etienne

For the HDDs:http://www.pc-cooling.at/product_info.php?...products_id=577You can barely hear the HDDs.PSU:http://www.pc-cooling.at/product_info.php?...roducts_id=1499I could almost put an ear close to it and still barely hear it. And yes, my hearing is very good :)Considering heavy airflow:Two 120mm fans, rear and front, both running at 7V. Still barely to hear. Put to that a Mo-Ra 2 radiator with 2x 120mm fans just for little air circulation, both at 7V...And tell me you can say that it's loud. It is definitely much more silent than ANY aircooled desktop I have seen or heard.