http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/472/A great review of an imminent release.al

Most tests of the new ATI cards will prove to be good advertisements for the nVidia 8800GT. And that from a died-in-the-wool ATI user.

It seems as though it is only in the price of the 3850/512 that any competition can be seen against nVidia.And the fact that nVidia is having a bit of problem with accelertaion pack if I am not mistaken...?

>Most tests of the new ATI cards will prove to be good>advertisements for the nVidia 8800GT. And that from a>died-in-the-wool ATI user. That's "DYED-in-the-wool" ;)I hope AMD/ATI can come up with something for 2008 that will compare pretty well with the 8800/8900. That would be good for all of us.RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian

>>Most tests of the new ATI cards will prove to be good>>advertisements for the nVidia 8800GT. And that from a>>died-in-the-wool ATI user. >>That's "DYED-in-the-wool" ;)>>I hope AMD/ATI can come up with something for 2008 that will>compare pretty well with the 8800/8900. That would be good>for all of us.>>Rhett>>AMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS>A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150>gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb>5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster PraetorianBy then though Nvidia will be out with their 9800 series cards which will blow away even the 8800 ultra's (Not necessarily in FS9/FSX though!)

Hold on guys. The cards have just been released and they are the original drivers. ATI always continues to improve their drivers. I also haven't seen any reviews using FSX.

All these new cards are doing wonders for other games but as far as FSX and FS9 go I don't see any major increases in FPS. And quite honestly I don't see a point of dropping tons of money into a new video card if you're still flying FS9.

.. true, but my 1950XTX (that cost me $500 Can) won't run the Matrox TripleHead2Go system - and I DON'T want the aggravation that everyone has with the nVidia product: these forums are full of "blurries" and "AA/AF" issues. I love my smooth, clear, trouble-free, no blurries no aa/af problems ATI card. I just wish it would handle 3850 x 1280. If the new 3870 can do that for a coupla hundred - I'm game. I sure don't want to pay another $500.