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New PC? - a couple of questions

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>I have all sliders to the right EXCEPT water at 2xlow, and>I have AutoGen set to VERY DENSE, as I like what I see with>UTX at that level.>>The snapping in of textures on my machine is where when I pan>to a new view around the cockpit, and looking out the window,>the ground textures are slightly blurred, but then 'snap' into>sharp focus.>>Oh, I run UTX and FSXnhanced.>It seems you get similar FSX performence (or slightly better) than I have for FS9. That performence on FSX with your system really surprises me. Do you have any additional info over that CPU. What frequency does your RAM run at? Do you use Win XP?

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>>I have all sliders to the right EXCEPT water at 2xlow, and>>I have AutoGen set to VERY DENSE, as I like what I see with>>UTX at that level.>>>>The snapping in of textures on my machine is where when I>pan>>to a new view around the cockpit, and looking out the>window,>>the ground textures are slightly blurred, but then 'snap'>into>>sharp focus.>>>>Oh, I run UTX and FSXnhanced.>>>>It seems you get similar FSX performence (or slightly better)>than I have for FS9. That performence on FSX with your system>really surprises me. Do you have any additional info over that>CPU. What frequency does your RAM run at? Do you use Win XP?-----------------------------------------------Hi,As I own a Dell Gen 3 P4 3.4 GHz Prescott Core-D0(zero), I have no BIOS options to overclock anything. So, all is stock OTHER than I also have HYPERTHREADING enabled (as per my BIOS options). My system memory is three gigs of MICRON-branded 800 MHz RAM. In channel A, sits two 500 MB cards, and in channel B, sits two 1GB cards. I am running in DUAL CHANNEL MODE.I have an ATI-BRANDED 1950 Pro 256 Meg vid card.I have EVERYTHING max'ed out on ATI's CCC interface for 3D setup.That's about it. With the above, I am a happy FSX camper other than just having to be resigned for now, to snapping of textures into focus upon they coming into view. FS9 performance is stupendous with of course no snapping of ground textures into view. I truly have no pressing need to go out and drop thousands at the moment. I really now want to see what FS11 will do on my present system. The curiosity is killing me! I just...MIGHT...be able to have my cake and eat it too. If I upgrade now...I would not know that FS11 might be optimized enough to be totally usable on my P4 system, therefore saving me literally thousands of dollars.Mitch

>That's about it. With the above, I am a happy FSX camper other>than just having to be resigned for now, to snapping of>textures into focus upon they coming into view. FS9I have heard that FSX needs a video card with 512M. I'm curious about what that could do for your snapping problem?Otherwise you report surprisingly good performence considering your old low range system.I wonder how your CPU compares to mine AMD 64 3200+ and to the now current budget priced CPU?Maybe we can have descent performence on budget priced system?>and drop thousands at the moment. I really now want to see>what FS11 will do on my present system. The curiosity is>killing me! I just...MIGHT...be able to have my cake and eat>it too. If I upgrade now...I would not know that FS11 might be>optimized enough to be totally usable on my P4 system,>therefore saving me literally thousands of dollars.>One thing comes to mind that might give us hope for this. FSX is a 32 bit application as is mainstream Win XP and some Vista. Our CPU has since long time been 64 bit. So we really don't use the full hardware potential. What about a 64 bit FS11 run on a 64 bit OS? Couldn't just that do much for performence? For example I did noticed performence advantages on Win XP 64 bit on my system.AMD 64 3200+1 Gb 400 MHz RAMNVIDIA 6600GT 256M ddr3Two IDE HDWin XP Home

>I have heard that FSX needs a video card with 512M. I'm>curious about what that could do for your snapping problem?>Otherwise you report surprisingly good performence considering>your old low range system.>I wonder how your CPU compares to mine AMD 64 3200+ and to the>now current budget priced CPU?>Maybe we can have descent performence on budget priced>system?I have a 512MB video card and my textures are still blurry but eventually pop into focus so I guess the 512MB are not helping me much unless I'm doing something wrong.

Rhett, and any others willing to help, please.Keeping with the theme of this thread;You seem very "in the know". I want to get a new rig and use 4 monitors as we speak with the specs you see at the bottom here. I have about 3,000.00 to spend on my new system and have tried to build a set up on "Dell" web site. I am considering Dell but also the area on the web site where you configure a proposed rig helps me as I am way behind you guys in making sure components all work together.I was wanting to know if you would take a look at the Dell site and recommend a rig that would stay around 3 grand thats being put together for FSX and I hope will work with FS11 (buy the way when is it due out?) or at least be able to be upgraded.The one thing I tend to stick with is using 2 V cards with 4 monitors and use window views and trag them around to the other monitors (for FS9 FS nav is on one of the monitors).I hope you dont mind me asking becuase I am really confussed.Any help will be appreciated. Thank you.Mark.OS:MS Windows XP Professional, Ver 2002 Service Pack 2 Hardware:Intel Pentium® 4 CPU 2.802.84 GHz, 2.00 GB of RAM GeForce 7800GS 256 MB w/ DDR3 running a 21/19.6 Sony Flat Screen Tubed Monitorand a,GeForce FX 5200 128MB 17/16 NEC/Mitsubishi Tubed MonitorGeForce FX 5200 128MB NEC/Mitsubishi 18 Flat Panel.

Rhett, also others following this thread,From what you had suggested,(If I had unlimited budget:QX9550 cpu (the unlocked 45nm quad) $1200+ASUS Maximus Extreme (or whatever the new X48 board is they have)8 gb G.SKILL/Mushkin/Patriot/etc. DDR3 memory28"-40" Westinghouse widescreenATI 3870x2 or nVidia 8800GTX or 8800 Ultra vid card150 gig Raptor for FSXany 7200 rpm for OS+otherVista64)one specific question is if I prefer nVidia 8800GTX, will I need two of these to run 3 to 4 monitorss, please. I am aware that I will not be able to just drag window box views of different panels ect (fsnav) as I do in FS9 in FS 10 but I do look forward to 3 and 4 monitors in FS 10. Thus the question on needing 2 V cards.Thank you.Thank you.Mark.OS:MS Windows XP Professional, Ver 2002 Service Pack 2 Hardware:Intel Pentium® 4 CPU 2.802.84 GHz, 2.00 GB of RAM GeForce 7800GS 256 MB w/ DDR3 running a 21/19.6 Sony Flat Screen Tubed Monitorand a,GeForce FX 5200 128MB 17/16 NEC/Mitsubishi Tubed MonitorGeForce FX 5200 128MB NEC/Mitsubishi 18 Flat Panel.

MarkI will say, I do not have much experience in running multi-monitors. I have set up a workstation with two screens but never 3 or 4. I would think if 3 or 4 screens is in the works for you, yes, you will need two vid cards, and if it were me I would probably get two 8800GTX's, unless my secondary screen(s) were not going to display the sim.In other words, if I had a screen that would just display navdata, etc. then there is no need to have an 8800GTX drive that screen. Get something cheaper to drive it. Even the FX5200 would suffice for that task. (The FX5200 is probably AGP so that would not work with a modern motherboard, however). But you probably know all of that already. :) It looks like that is what you are doing already.Right now, the "if money is no object" motherboard is probably the ASUS P5E3 Premium wifi X48 board, at least as far as the ASUS brand goes.You probably won't be able to get that motherboard from Dell, unless their gaming branch (used to be Alienware, may still be) will build them. And even then I'm sure you would pay a price premium. The P5E3 is $350 right now anyway, so it's expensive to begin with.And the DDR3 memory to bring out the X48 chipset's performance is over $100 per gig (you'd want at least 2 gigs, preferably 4) so as you can see, none of that is cheap right now.I just ordered a P5E3 board and I am still hurting from that expense...but, it's only money I guess. That's what I keep telling myself.RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian

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7800X3D 96 GB G.Skill Flare  Gigabyte 4090  Crucial P5 Plus 2TB

Rhett Thanks for your responce.You seem to be on the same page in my quest.I agree that Dell want and only thru the high end dept can one approach the specs that seem to be recommended.Thus Using the system build or not using the system build from there web site can you sum up specs that I can take to my local PC shop and see what kind of quote I can get. My only concern of using a local PC shop is I want to make sur e that the components I ask for are able to work together, and are upgradable, ( I hope "upgradding is still an option in the present PC world).Thanks so much for your help.Thank you.Mark.OS:MS Windows XP Professional, Ver 2002 Service Pack 2 Hardware:Intel Pentium® 4 CPU 2.802.84 GHz, 2.00 GB of RAM GeForce 7800GS 256 MB w/ DDR3 running a 21/19.6 Sony Flat Screen Tubed Monitorand a,GeForce FX 5200 128MB 17/16 NEC/Mitsubishi Tubed MonitorGeForce FX 5200 128MB NEC/Mitsubishi 18 Flat Panel.

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