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My ATI X800 XT AIO AGP card bit the dust. Not quite ready to drop $2500 for a new system but will drop $250 for a replacement card. Looking for best I can get for this old technology. Came across this:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814161226hs a $40 buck rebate. Anybody using it? I am using it with an Intel P4 3.4 Ghz single core. I would think maybe I would see some improvement over my 3 year old card? Guess they don't make a 8800GTX in AGP form?


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Hi again Clutch, For the money your talkin for the new AGP card, it's possible for nearly the same price to get a new motherboard with PCIE support and a new 8800gt. Would the rest of your rig be compatible with the new MB if you swapped everything over? If so, I would consider that as an option. What's your PSU like for either option - up to snuff power wise?? JMHO.BTW, thanks for the 9Dragons - awesome stuff. Regards, Kendall#1: E6750@3.2GHZ/Coolermaster HyperTX2 Gigabyte P35-DS3L 4GB Ballistix Tracers PC6400 EVGA 8800GT - 174.74 beta Seagate 250GB 7200.11 CH Yoke/Pedals/Saitek Throttle Dual Monitor: Dell 2405/1905 #2: Dell 8400 3.2 H.T. 3GB PC4200 - X800XT Diamond Xtreme/Logitech X-530's


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Really? All that for $250? Most motherboards I look at are at least $200 and a nice dual-core? Shouldn't that run about $200 too these days? Unless you happen to know of some perfect match where all three components fall into the $250 range. ;)


Intel i9-12900KF, Asus Prime Z690-A MB, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, (3) SK hynix M.2 SSD (2TB ea.), 16TB Seagate HDD, EVGA GeForce 3080 Ti, Corsair iCUE H70i AIO Liquid Cooler, UHD/Blu-ray Player/Burner (still have lots of CDs, DVDs!)  Windows 10, (hold off for now on Win11),  EVGA 1300W PSU
Netgear 1Gbps modem & router, (3) 27" 1440 wrap-around displays
Full array of Saitek and GoFlight hardware for the cockpit

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>Really? All that for $250? Most motherboards I look at are>at least $200 and a nice dual-core? Shouldn't that run about>$200 too these days? Unless you happen to know of some>perfect match where all three components fall into the $250>range. ;)Gee, who said anything about replacing your CPU? Had you read my post I inquired: "Would the rest of your rig be compatible with the new MB if you swapped everything over?" 8800GT 129.99: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813128337GA-p35-DS3L MB 84.99: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813128337Total if everything swaps over: $215.00 and you're at least up to today's graphics standards instead of livin' in the past with the AGP. You can add a C2 or quad later, if it strikes your fancy, and if you scrounge around you can find even better deals than what I've linked. I simply was trying to present an alternative strategy instead of investing in dated AGP technology - it's up to you to fill in some of the gaps ........all the best to you too. ;) Regards, Kendall#1: E6750@3.2GHZ/Coolermaster HyperTX2 Gigabyte P35-DS3L 4GB Ballistix Tracers PC6400 EVGA 8800GT - 174.74 beta Seagate 250GB 7200.11 CH Yoke/Pedals/Saitek Throttle Dual Monitor: Dell 2405/1905 #2: Dell 8400 3.2 H.T. 3GB PC4200 - X800XT Diamond Xtreme/Logitech X-530's


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Your right, somehow I was thinkin' of motherboard AND the CPU??? Not sure why. I will look more into that. Thanks for the links. Nice alternative. Oooops, both your links go to the motherboard. No prob... I will look up the card as well. ;)


Intel i9-12900KF, Asus Prime Z690-A MB, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, (3) SK hynix M.2 SSD (2TB ea.), 16TB Seagate HDD, EVGA GeForce 3080 Ti, Corsair iCUE H70i AIO Liquid Cooler, UHD/Blu-ray Player/Burner (still have lots of CDs, DVDs!)  Windows 10, (hold off for now on Win11),  EVGA 1300W PSU
Netgear 1Gbps modem & router, (3) 27" 1440 wrap-around displays
Full array of Saitek and GoFlight hardware for the cockpit

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Question: From what you are describing, is your current computer a P-4 Socket 478 and DDR-400 RAM?If so, here's an inexpensive way to go with a nice bump in performance.My wife's gaming machine recently lost the motherboard. She had a P-4 3.2 Socket 478, AGP X850 256 meg & 2 gigs DDR-400.We bought a CHEAP Biostar P4M900-M4, about $60 from Newegg.This board has PCI Express video, and uses DDR2-667 RAM, but still uses the Socket 478 CPU.We also bought 2 gigs of DDR2-667 and she is using my old 8800GTS 320 meg video card (FSX likes more than 320 megs video). Ram was less than $50 and an EVGA 8800GT 512 meg PCIx is currently about $150. So you're looking at about $260 for the step up to DDR2 & PCIx. Plus you're moving past AGP.I was expecting "maybe" a little improvement, but her performance gain, with the same P-4 3.2 Socket 478, in Conan was spectacular. I was shocked at the improvement!!!--Ray

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Ray,Yep, got a good ol' Socket 478 CPU. Got 2 gig of DDR-500 too. Be nice if I could still use that but I'm sure that's date too. Some creative ideas out there. Sounds like some pretty good upgrading for only $260. How she run with FS? Will it even run FSX?.


Intel i9-12900KF, Asus Prime Z690-A MB, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, (3) SK hynix M.2 SSD (2TB ea.), 16TB Seagate HDD, EVGA GeForce 3080 Ti, Corsair iCUE H70i AIO Liquid Cooler, UHD/Blu-ray Player/Burner (still have lots of CDs, DVDs!)  Windows 10, (hold off for now on Win11),  EVGA 1300W PSU
Netgear 1Gbps modem & router, (3) 27" 1440 wrap-around displays
Full array of Saitek and GoFlight hardware for the cockpit

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Install a flight sim on her system... LOL, yeah right!!!Actually it was my old system and I did run FSX with the P-4 3.2 and ATI X850 card. It wasn't bad as long as I kept the sliders in the middle. With the newer items, I think it would do OK. Conan is rather demanding, much more so than the World of Warcraft that she was playing with everything maxed out. The new setup sure made Conan come to life. That's all I can really judge by.This setup would be a stop gap till you move to the "latest greatest" that Intel has to offer.Trickle down works great in my house :-)--Ray

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