October 6, 200817 yr You mean like this?http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/193017.jpg:-hah The above setup is my rig in my sig running my 47" LCD TV @ 1920x1080. A very in-your-face experience!Gary 9800X3D | 4090 | 64GB | 2+1TB NVME | 2TB SSD | 2TB HDD | 85/50/43” TVs | Quest 3 | DOF H3 Motion Rig | Buttkicker | T.16000M Flight Kit MSFS @ 4K Ultra DLSS Performance FG 80 FPS | VR VDXR Godlike 80Hz SSW | MSFS VR DLSS Quality, Ultra Preset - Windows 11 Acer Nitro 5 | i5-11400H | RTX 3060 6 GB | 32GB DDR4 | 15.6" FHD IPS 144Hz | 2 x 512 GB SSD | Windows 11
October 6, 200817 yr Gary- Great pic- thank you. Proof that a large HDTV is a viable FS display! Two questions if I may-What is the eye to screen distance and do you perceive any adverse pixel graininess?Any possibility of persuading you to try setting up triple 2D views- LFwd,Fwd,RFwd- along the lines of the demonstration screenie I posted in this thread-#9 above ? I'm quite curious to see if this works- thereby completely eliminating bezel separation in a 135
October 6, 200817 yr Author could you also please show me PMDG 747 VC view (if you have PMDG)thanks I7-10700F RTX 3070 32 Gig Ram
October 6, 200817 yr I will, as soon as I can wrestle my 15 yr old son away from playing Crysis on this setup!Gary 9800X3D | 4090 | 64GB | 2+1TB NVME | 2TB SSD | 2TB HDD | 85/50/43” TVs | Quest 3 | DOF H3 Motion Rig | Buttkicker | T.16000M Flight Kit MSFS @ 4K Ultra DLSS Performance FG 80 FPS | VR VDXR Godlike 80Hz SSW | MSFS VR DLSS Quality, Ultra Preset - Windows 11 Acer Nitro 5 | i5-11400H | RTX 3060 6 GB | 32GB DDR4 | 15.6" FHD IPS 144Hz | 2 x 512 GB SSD | Windows 11
October 6, 200817 yr I don't have PMDG 747 for FSX. In fact, I don't have many complex aircraft addons for FSX at all - that's still FS9 territory IMO.The best I can offer a screenshot of the LDS 767 VC, again when I can wrestle my son of the system.Gary 9800X3D | 4090 | 64GB | 2+1TB NVME | 2TB SSD | 2TB HDD | 85/50/43” TVs | Quest 3 | DOF H3 Motion Rig | Buttkicker | T.16000M Flight Kit MSFS @ 4K Ultra DLSS Performance FG 80 FPS | VR VDXR Godlike 80Hz SSW | MSFS VR DLSS Quality, Ultra Preset - Windows 11 Acer Nitro 5 | i5-11400H | RTX 3060 6 GB | 32GB DDR4 | 15.6" FHD IPS 144Hz | 2 x 512 GB SSD | Windows 11
October 6, 200817 yr Author ok and an external view also thanks!leveld 767 is fine I7-10700F RTX 3070 32 Gig Ram
October 6, 200817 yr You will find it better if you lower that TRackIR4 camera, it's mounted too high. Dave Taylor
October 6, 200817 yr Clayton/Gary- here's another experimental pic to show how you might mate the 2D Captain's panel with the FO panel AND with TRIPLE VIEWS!( I filled in with PopUps on most of the available 4:3 monitor format-lower screen just for fun. On wide HDTV format, don't bother with the 2 FMCs & throttle popups-just open them as needed.) Note the Lower Eicas and FO primary CRT displays.We need to persuade the developers to take advantage of big screens- not just itty bitty single monitors!This layout actually flies on my 5 yr old Athlon 1.8 / GeForce FX5200 GPU! But all this packed onto a 19"CRT is hard on the eyes! And I did not bother to change the horizon alignments settings.Alex ReidPMDG 747 exper. Capt/Fo panels + Triple Views. Aloft near CYVRhttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/193050.jpg
October 6, 200817 yr I was standing up when showing this off to my family, so the top of the TV was best for the TrackIR at the time. I agree that for sitting down, a much lower position would be needed.Gary 9800X3D | 4090 | 64GB | 2+1TB NVME | 2TB SSD | 2TB HDD | 85/50/43” TVs | Quest 3 | DOF H3 Motion Rig | Buttkicker | T.16000M Flight Kit MSFS @ 4K Ultra DLSS Performance FG 80 FPS | VR VDXR Godlike 80Hz SSW | MSFS VR DLSS Quality, Ultra Preset - Windows 11 Acer Nitro 5 | i5-11400H | RTX 3060 6 GB | 32GB DDR4 | 15.6" FHD IPS 144Hz | 2 x 512 GB SSD | Windows 11
October 6, 200817 yr Here's two screenshots with the LDS 767, both external and internal at 0.5X zoom (and FSX setup for widescreen in the FSX.CFG file).http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/193051.jpghttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/193052.jpgAnd finally, what screenshot set would be complete without a Crysis screenie!http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/193053.jpgBTW, I have moved my chair to sit about 2M / 6ft away from the screen, and I perceive no noticable pixel graininess at this distance. In fact, I am using a standard VGA cable input to the TV until such time as I get a DVI to HDMI cable, which will then give me a much sharper image.Gary 9800X3D | 4090 | 64GB | 2+1TB NVME | 2TB SSD | 2TB HDD | 85/50/43” TVs | Quest 3 | DOF H3 Motion Rig | Buttkicker | T.16000M Flight Kit MSFS @ 4K Ultra DLSS Performance FG 80 FPS | VR VDXR Godlike 80Hz SSW | MSFS VR DLSS Quality, Ultra Preset - Windows 11 Acer Nitro 5 | i5-11400H | RTX 3060 6 GB | 32GB DDR4 | 15.6" FHD IPS 144Hz | 2 x 512 GB SSD | Windows 11
October 6, 200817 yr Alex, I tried setting up a 2D screen with what you have requested, but I'm buggered if I can set it up right. I can bring up the three external views, but can't get rid of the original outside view. Also, sizing the windows so that horizons line up seems to be a near impossible feat. Finally, it turns out I don't have the LDS 767 installed in FS9 at the moment, so the best aircraft I can show up in this regard is the PMDG 737-800, which doesn't have a copilot view.I know that your 2D view setup has served you well with your old rig, but you'd have to ask yourself whether you'd want to keep using this setup if driving a large TV/monitor such as this. I certainly don't use 2D anymore now that I have TH2G and TrackIR, and would use VC exclusively if I were to permanently connect my system up to my TV. Your point that you only get a 45 degree FOV with TH2G is only an issue if you are using a single 2D view, because I certainly get 105 degree + FOV with my TH2G setup and VC zoomed out to the furthest non-fisheye level.Gary 9800X3D | 4090 | 64GB | 2+1TB NVME | 2TB SSD | 2TB HDD | 85/50/43” TVs | Quest 3 | DOF H3 Motion Rig | Buttkicker | T.16000M Flight Kit MSFS @ 4K Ultra DLSS Performance FG 80 FPS | VR VDXR Godlike 80Hz SSW | MSFS VR DLSS Quality, Ultra Preset - Windows 11 Acer Nitro 5 | i5-11400H | RTX 3060 6 GB | 32GB DDR4 | 15.6" FHD IPS 144Hz | 2 x 512 GB SSD | Windows 11
October 6, 200817 yr Author wow thats an amazing sense of realism, do you feel like you are moving when you look at that large screen in the LevelD 767 VC pic? I7-10700F RTX 3070 32 Gig Ram
October 6, 200817 yr Yes, it is a very pleasing sensation of motion, especially from 2M away from a roughly 1.5M wide screen.Some other points to note are those relating to LCD versus Plasma. LCD TV is just like and LCD monitor in that if you run it at native resolution you get a super sharp image, whereas I believe that Plasma "pixels" are not as precise. Also, an LCD will happily display a static image all day without any issue of screen burn, whereas Plasma TVs can suffer from this (especially the older ones) or have to utilise some electronic trickery to slightly move an image on screen if it is static too long.Gary 9800X3D | 4090 | 64GB | 2+1TB NVME | 2TB SSD | 2TB HDD | 85/50/43” TVs | Quest 3 | DOF H3 Motion Rig | Buttkicker | T.16000M Flight Kit MSFS @ 4K Ultra DLSS Performance FG 80 FPS | VR VDXR Godlike 80Hz SSW | MSFS VR DLSS Quality, Ultra Preset - Windows 11 Acer Nitro 5 | i5-11400H | RTX 3060 6 GB | 32GB DDR4 | 15.6" FHD IPS 144Hz | 2 x 512 GB SSD | Windows 11
October 6, 200817 yr Gary- your efforts/thoughts are really appreciated. I think my interest in this stuff is to see how far we can push FS in terms of realistic displays. In fact, I tend to start with what an improvement in display realism might look like- and only then worry about the hardware to make it happen. Since I'm pretty happy with FS9 2D triple mon display yielding a 150
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