Quick Start-up procedure for Concorde

[Ray Proudfoot 8,955]

Firstly, congratulations to all involved for producing a superb Concorde package. Mike Bannister and the rest of the lads would be very impressed with your efforts.I've printed the Tutorial and worked my way through it but the sheer number of checks/actions required to get the engines running is a task I hadn't anticipated. I was hoping that the controls on my GoFlight rack would allow me to turn on all fuel pumps and then start each of the four engines via separate buttons. I seems this isn't going to be possible :-(Whilst I understand why you have included a full list of all the actions in starting up a real-world Concorde this does make the flight preparation very long. I'm not unfamiliar with flying Concorde and would like to get airborne reasonably quickly.Could you possibly publish the minimum set of actions that are required to get the engines running please? After that I'm happy to read the sections on controlling the autopilots / INS etc.Thanks,

[Guest Phoenix_7]

the tutorial flight includes situation filesyou can start:cold and darkready for engine startready for descentapproachlandingJohn PSS SUPPORTsupport@phoenix-simulation.co.ukhttp://www.avsim.com/pss/conc2004.jpg

[Ray Proudfoot 8,955]

John,I'm aware of the situation files for the various stages of a flight thanks. What I was hoping for was a shortened list of actions to get the engines running. Many of the actions in the tutorial are checks to ensure a switch is set to a value and in many of these cases the switch is already set correctly.I'm curently compiling my own list of switches to set that are not in the correct state. Hopefully this will shorten the time it takes to get the engines running. I'd rather not use a supplied situation file as it teaches me nothing about the procedures.Thanks,

[Guest AirRyan]

I'm just wondering how to turn off that damned doorbell when I close my GPU switch. Is there no APU then, and the only way I can get bleed air to turn the first off engine is to use the GPU?

[Ray Proudfoot 8,955]

Lower overhead panel cancel button in the bottom-right corner (from memory) will cancel the 'door-bell'. Make sure you press 'Inhibit' too. Can't help on your second question - sorry.Cheers,

[Guest AirRyan]

Thanks, I was hitting the wrong button (obviously!)

[Guest cj_flys_wmu]

According the the systems manual, the Concorde does NOT have an APU. So the only way to get to get bleed air into the engines is using ground service. The tutorial flight has you starting engine 3 first, then 2 at the gate, pushing back, and doing a "cross bleed" start of 1 and 4 off the running engines. I would imagine that you could start all 4 engines at the gate, but I belive the tutorial flight is based on BA procedures. I do not know the effect of pusing back with no engines running, and starting them after you push back. I would imagine it wouldn't make a difference, it is just more realistic starting 2 at the gate, simulating ground service. When you open 2 and 3 bleed valves, you should get bleed air pressure on the respective gauges. As for the order of engine start, it could be that engine 3 is closer to the ground service air manifold, or the batteries or something.Take care,-CJ Starr

[Ayster 73]

I tried pushing back first, the first time I did this, and I lost all power.. the ground service is only available when the parking brake is set. So unless you've got the engines running, you don't have any power to start them!!