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DH8Q--how do I grease it on??

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Hi:I've been 'flying' the Dash-8-300Q for about a week now---basically doing ILS approaches before attempting X/C---but am still having problems landing.Controlling power and speed on approach is obviously crucial---intercepting the G/S at 150 kts with about 60% torque and (with gear down and flaps 15 having fully established) gradually reducing to 40-45% torque and trying to keep airspeed at about 120. (Any slower and I'm on the back of the envelope!)Once over the threshhold, it's a dog to land. Even with power off and condition levers fully forward, either it floats for a thousand feet down the runway before touching down at 100kts, or (aiming at the T/D zone) I bounce it.Any tips on how to slow the A/C down much appreciated---otherwise, getting it onto 5000 ft runways just isn't on (which is was it was meant for).Thanks,GeorgePS: And yes, I've been through all the docs and tutorials.

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George,The way I make my approach to short runways(and how I have seen the QANTAS pilots do it a the smaller regional airports) is to make the approach with a nose down attitude. Keeping 120 - 125 kts depending on conditions etc, cross the threshold around 50' AGL I then cut all power level the nose, maintain the back pressure to flare very slightly and she kisses the tarmac smooth as silk. I apply the reverse thrust as soon as the nose wheel is on the ground and find I always have plenty of room to spare.Hope this helps

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Steve:It does help---but only if you can tell me how to avoid a pitch up attitude (usually about 4-5 degrees) on approach with flaps 15 and 125 kts---and which tends to get steeper in the flare? Presumably, like me, you uncouple the A/P at around 250' and hand-fly it on.GeorgePS: Simply keeping the initial W&B within the envelope on this A/C is a chore!

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George,I switch off the A/P as soon as the runway is visable, when doing a procedural NDB/VOR/ILS type approach. If I am just joining the circuit I will go "hands on" as soon as I see airport. I enjoy nothing more than joining on downwind and cutting across for a 2 mile final.

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The -300 with flaps 15 is going to have a pitch attitude of about 5 deg if flown on speed. To get the nose down, select flaps 35. That will reduce Vref a lot, and allow a pitch attitude of 2 or 3 degrees nose down. It also reduces the risk of a tail strike since with flaps 15 you can't really flare the airplane much. Much over 6 degrees and you're scraping the tail.BTW, the Dash 8 is near impossible to make consistantly nice landings in.

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