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I was wondering how often visual landings are performed fully manually or partially manually. That is, do real airbus pilots usually use the sidestick with the AT remaining on and set to approach speed, or do pilots disconnect both the AP and AT to land using fully manual sidestick and throttle control? It seems to me that leaving the AT on would be a good idea unless there are windshear concerns or the approach is particularly challenging. Any ideas?Thanks,Alden

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Guest elyab

Hi Alden,Visit multimedia section of http://www.a340.net and watch famous cockpit videos by Nils Alegren. You will see (and hear) that pilots disconnect AP on final approach while AT remains active.Regards,Eti

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Thanks for your responses. I've checked out the A340.net videos before but never with this question in mind. Now looking at the Shanghai landing, it seems as if the pilot disconnects both AP and AT. Right around 2:00 into the video both lights are extinguished after you hear the AP disconnect sounds.http://www.fsaviation.com/~airvideo/a340/1...40/shanghai.zipAlso, here's an instructional video in a simulator covering an approach with windshear. Here the intstructor definitely turns off both AP and AT.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9ZC4I0ch-wI always land my PSS airbuses with AT on and AP off (weather permitting).-Alden

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OK, this afternoon's Easyjet EZY761 EGKK-EGPE which I was on: as I said above, pilot followed Airbus SOPs with AP disengaged at 4 miles but AT kept on from the 80kt callout on the takeoff roll all the way.BA SOPS are to do an autoland once every 30 days to maintain currency. I forgot to ask the Easyjet SOPs on this.Aiden, this was Captain Alan Dix in the SAS A320 simulator, he has now sadly had to retire due to ill-health. As far as I can tell he kept AT on: for alpha floor protection it is not actually necessary to keep AT on (it just has to be operational) but if you hit alpha floor as Alan did go around thrust is automatically applied. As far as I can tell this is what happened in the video. I'll look at it again on the original DVD which is better quality, but I think he kept AT on and even if he didn't he got G/A thrust on alpha floor. Doesn't happen in my Toyota RAV4 for some reason.Rob Elliott, EGPE InvernessPSS Airbus Support andAirbus Fleet Training Captain, British Airways Virtual airbus@speedbirdonline.co.ukhttp://www.speedbirdonline.co.uk/airbus.htmlhttp://www.bavirtual.co.uk

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Thanks Rob for looking into this. Do you know where I could get that Airbus training DVD? Is that possible?I thought alpha floor was standard on the RAV4, no?Cheers,Alden

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Alden, go to http://www.itvv.co.uk/ - they do probably the best flightdeck DVDs/videos.Yes but mine's a Japanese import! The only radio it tunes to is BBC Radio 2 and I can't decipher what I assume are the alpha floor instructions, or perhaps they're how to unbolt the spare wheel, who knows (or cares)? :)Rob Elliott, EGPE InvernessPSS Airbus Support andAirbus Fleet Training Captain, British Airways Virtual airbus@speedbirdonline.co.ukhttp://www.speedbirdonline.co.uk/airbus.htmlhttp://www.bavirtual.co.uk

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