Autolanding A340

[Guest johnnyh]

Hello. When I am going to do an autoland on the A340, everything goes smoothly until at 100ft. Then, the G/S flag moves down and the aircraft pitches down and at 50 it flares but doesn't have enough time so it hits the ground harshly. I am using Bob Scott's FDE files and everything goes 100% smooth until at 100 ft. I think this maybe because im am going to fast. I land with Flaps 3 (i put that in the approach page). When I am at flaps three I have the speed in managed mode. Should I slow 5 or maybe 10 knots below the speed the aircraft goes to in managed mode? Please help, this is a great aircraft and I really want to be able to autoland. John

[Guest vrandar]

Why are you landing at flaps 3 config? The normal config is flaps full with managed speed.Rob Elliott, EGPE InvernessPSS Airbus Support andAirbus Fleet Training Captain, British Airways Virtual airbus@speedbirdonline.co.ukhttp://www.speedbirdonline.co.uk/airbus.htmlhttp://www.bavirtual.co.uk

[Guest johnnyh]

Well you see, I am using Bob Scott's files but I edited the lift_scalar so it is 0.8. So when I am at full flaps, the nose pitches down really much but when I am at flaps three the plane is straight while descending. When the the lift_scalar is 0.001 or however it was, the plane had to do a 10 degree pitch when holding an altitude below 10,000 feet so I changed it to 0.8. Did this only make the autolanding worse? I just couldn't have it at 0.001 because the nose pitched up to high. Is there any solution to this, please help me if you can.John

[scoob 18]

>Well you see, I am using Bob Scott's files ... the plane had>to do a 10 degree pitch when holding an altitude below 10,000john:what airspeed/flap setting(s) are have you set you having the 10deg. nose up situation?--

[Guest johnnyh]

Flaps 1,2,3 and 4 with managed speed, it won't pitch up 10 degrees when I have zero flaps and at 250 kts but then I won't have time to slow down when I land. When I capture the LOC I set flaps to two, then when I capture the G/S I set flaps to 3 and land that way (harsh landing), should I be doing it some different way?John

[scoob 18]

john:i need some more details here ---at flaps 1 how fast are you going?at flaps 2 how fast are you going?at flaps 3 how fast are you going?at flaps 4 how fast are you going?--

[Guest johnnyh]

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[scoob 18]

john:the Abus will control the speed in managed mode, but you must extend the flaps at the proper times.review pages 11 & 12 of the systems manual so you understand what the speedtape symbols represent (these are instructing you to extend flaps at the proper times/speeds).in the charts and tables manual the max speeds for extraction are shown on page 30; a good outline of the speed settings is also on page 28 (A340 CHECK LIST, specific checklists: approach, final, and landing).at cruise and approach some nose up attitude is normal for all airbus aircraft in the real world (and yes, for takeoff and climb ;-)). the PSS air flies were not the best at representing real world. robert scott's are much much better at 'real world' within the limits of FS9.--

[Guest vrandar]

You mentioned you changed the lift_scalar away from the Bob Scott figure but you only seem to have changed the flaps.0 lift_scalar. Have you done done any testing on the flaps.1 lift_scalar? I am surprised you have found the nose is too high as I have not had that issue with his FDE which was, part, designed to correct that. As Scoob hinted earlier, it could be to do with the speeds at which you are setting the different flaps configs.Rob Elliott, EGPE InvernessPSS Airbus Support andAirbus Fleet Training Captain, British Airways Virtual airbus@speedbirdonline.co.ukhttp://www.speedbirdonline.co.uk/airbus.htmlhttp://www.bavirtual.co.uk

[Guest johnnyh]

I think it may be because I am putting the wrong information into the MCDU. When you type in the block and ZFW, are you supposed to enter them in Kilos or lbs???

[Guest dogdog1985]

>Hello. When I am going to do an autoland on the A340,>everything goes smoothly until at 100ft. Then, the G/S flag>moves down and the aircraft pitches down and at 50 it flares>but doesn't have enough time so it hits the ground harshly. I>am using Bob Scott's FDE files and everything goes 100% smooth>until at 100 ft. I think this maybe because im am going to>fast. I land with Flaps 3 (i put that in the approach page).>When I am at flaps three I have the speed in managed mode.>Should I slow 5 or maybe 10 knots below the speed the aircraft>goes to in managed mode? Please help, this is a great aircraft>and I really want to be able to autoland. >>JohnThis is also my case, I landed at YSSY, I follow the G/SBut about 200 ft, the magenta went down dramatically. As a result, I always switch off the A/P at 1000ft, follow the magentas before 400ft, then visually landed my craft, this is also the real pilots' procedures

[Guest vrandar]

>I think it may be because I am putting the wrong information>into the MCDU. When you type in the block and ZFW, are you>supposed to enter them in Kilos or lbs???It depends how you have FS set up: go to options -> settings -> international. For kilos you need to have "metric (altimeter in feet)" as the units of measure. For lbs it should be "US System".Rob Elliott, EGPE InvernessPSS Airbus Support andAirbus Fleet Training Captain, British Airways Virtual airbus@speedbirdonline.co.ukhttp://www.speedbirdonline.co.uk/airbus.htmlhttp://www.bavirtual.co.uk

[Guest vrandar]

>This is also my case, I landed at YSSY, I follow the G/S>But about 200 ft, the magenta went down dramatically. >>As a result, I always switch off the A/P at 1000ft, follow the>magentas before 400ft, then visually landed my craft, this is>also the real pilots' proceduresNot for an autoland it isn't :)Rob Elliott, EGPE InvernessPSS Airbus Support andAirbus Fleet Training Captain, British Airways Virtual airbus@speedbirdonline.co.ukhttp://www.speedbirdonline.co.uk/airbus.htmlhttp://www.bavirtual.co.uk