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Hi PSS,why does the current B757-200 flips side to side when in 4x time ac? i cannot fly this way when it flips some isch minutes after I start time accelleration._______________________Regards, Torben Hadlerhttp://www.step-by-media.com die neue Community! Auch f

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Torben,When you say current do you mean using the latest version from MY FILES?Is the aircraft in trim? What ZFW and CoG?

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Yes, the latest release, it is in trim and the numbers are: ZFW: 183,999lbsCoG=0 or 100%I loaded the a/c with ACLoader and it flys and lands just perfect as long as I do not go more than 2x time acc. I already reduced framerates of the panel in setup, I am getting 6 to 12 fps while at cruze at 390 with live AS weather ans sliders around 85%_______________________Regards, Torben Hadlerhttp://www.step-by-media.com die neue Community! Auch f

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>ZFW: 183,999lbs>CoG=0 or 100%CoG of either would be outside limits. Try somewhere in the mid/high 20s

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Here are the load data out of the aircraft.cfg:empty_weight=136940max_gross_weight=256000station_load.0= " 430.00, 70.00, 0, 0.00, COCKPIT: Flight Crew and their stuff"station_load.1= " 181.00, 64.00, 0, 0.00, Fore (1) Attend"station_load.2= " 181.00, 29.00, 0, 0.00, Mid Fore (1) Attend"station_load.3= " 362.00, -69.00, 0, 0.00, Aft (2) Attend"station_load.4= " 448.64, 64.00, 0, 0.00, Galley"station_load.5= " 720.00, 59.00, 0, 0.00, First (4 ppl)"station_load.6= " 720.00, 54.00, 0, 0.00, First (4 ppl)"station_load.7= " 720.00, 49.00, 0, 0.00, First (4 ppl)"station_load.8= " 540.00, 44.00, 0, 0.00, First (3 ppl)"station_load.9= " 720.00, 39.00, 0, 0.00, First (4 ppl)"station_load.10=" 720.00, 34.00, 0, 0.00, First (4 ppl)"station_load.11=" 934.24, 29.00, 0, 0.00, Galley"station_load.12="1080.00, 24.00, 0, 0.00, Econ (6 ppl)"station_load.13=" 360.00, 20.97, 0, 0.00, Econ (2 ppl)"station_load.14="1080.00, 17.93, 0, 0.00, Econ (6 ppl)"station_load.15=" 360.00, 14.90, 0, 0.00, Econ (2 ppl)"station_load.16="1080.00, 11.86, 0, 0.00, Econ (6 ppl)"station_load.17="1080.00, 8.83, 0, 0.00, Econ (6 ppl)"station_load.18=" 540.00, 5.79, 0, 0.00, Econ (3 ppl)"station_load.19=" 540.00, 2.76, 0, 0.00, Econ (3 ppl)"station_load.20=" 720.00, -0.28, 0, 0.00, Econ (4 ppl)"station_load.21=" 360.00, -3.31, 0, 0.00, Econ (2 ppl)"station_load.22=" 360.00, -6.34, 0, 0.00, Econ (2 ppl)"station_load.23=" 900.00, -9.38, 0, 0.00, Econ (5 ppl)"station_load.24=" 900.00, -12.41, 0, 0.00, Econ (5 ppl)"station_load.25=" 720.00, -15.45, 0, 0.00, Econ (4 ppl)"station_load.26=" 720.00, -18.48, 0, 0.00, Econ (4 ppl)"station_load.27="1080.00, -21.52, 0, 0.00, Econ (6 ppl)"station_load.28="1080.00, -24.55, 0, 0.00, Econ (6 ppl)"station_load.29=" 720.00, -27.59, 0, 0.00, Econ (4 ppl)"station_load.30=" 900.00, -30.62, 0, 0.00, Econ (5 ppl)"station_load.31=" 360.00, -33.66, 0, 0.00, Econ (2 ppl)"station_load.32="1080.00, -36.69, 0, 0.00, Econ (6 ppl)"station_load.33="1080.00, -39.72, 0, 0.00, Econ (6 ppl)"station_load.34=" 540.00, -42.76, 0, 0.00, Econ (3 ppl)"station_load.35="1080.00, -45.79, 0, 0.00, Econ (6 ppl)"station_load.36="1080.00, -48.83, 0, 0.00, Econ (6 ppl)"station_load.37="1080.00, -51.86, 0, 0.00, Econ (6 ppl)"station_load.38="1080.00, -54.90, 0, 0.00, Econ (6 ppl)"station_load.39=" 900.00, -57.93, 0, 0.00, Econ (5 ppl)"station_load.40=" 540.00, -60.97, 0, 0.00, Econ (3 ppl)"station_load.41="1678.48, -69.00, 0, 0.00, Galley"station_load.42="12380.00, 35.00, 0, 0.00, Fore Cargo/Baggage Hold"station_load.43="2924.00, -37.00, 0, 0.00, Aft Cargo/Baggage Hold"max_number_of_stations=48empty_weight_CG_position=-0.00,0,-0.00 // (feet) length,side,upempty_weight_pitch_MOI = 5000000empty_weight_roll_MOI = 3600000empty_weight_yaw_MOI = 3000000empty_weight_coupled_MOI = 0.000reference_datum_position=0.00,0,0.00_______________________Regards, Torben Hadlerhttp://www.step-by-media.com die neue Community! Auch f

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Torben,I appreciate that you are a beta tester for ACLoader so will naturally want to use their product with our aircraft.From our perspective we can't really support both products. One thing I see immediately is that you have a empty_weight_cg_position of zero whilst by default ours is +3Please replace with the following values and try accelerated flight.[WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE]max_gross_weight = 256000.000empty_weight = 136940.000reference_datum_position = 0.000, 0.000, 0.000empty_weight_CG_position = 3.000, 0.000, 0.000max_number_of_stations =50station_load.0 = "320, 62.0, 0.0, 3.0, Pilot & Co-Pilot" station_load.1 = "600, 0.0, 0.0, 3.0, Technical Crew" station_load.2 = "5000, 45.0, 0.0, 3.0, First Class" station_load.3 = "13300, 28.0, 0.0, 3.0, Coach Class Fwd" station_load.4 = "13300, -28.0, 0.0, 3.0, Coach Class Aft"station_load.5 = "3000, 35.0, 0.0, -5.0, Cargo Fwd"station_load.6 = "4000, 15.0, 0.0, -5.0, Cargo Fwd Mid"station_load.7 = "4000, -15.0, 0.0, -5.0, Cargo Centre"station_load.8 = "3000, -28.0, 0.0, -5.0, Cargo Aft" ;Moments of Inertiaempty_weight_pitch_MOI = 5000000empty_weight_roll_MOI = 3600000empty_weight_yaw_MOI = 3000000empty_weight_coupled_MOI = 0.000CG_forward_limit= 0.000CG_aft_limit= 1.000

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Hi,well, I found out that my cockpit weight is too much in the front. I reduced it to +62 and tried with that. Now I get a CoG of about + 2 to +3 feetAnd I reduced my scenery and effect sliders down to 78%, that reduced the problem of this bird to flip right and left at x4Well, I thought I would have a good computer to fly with around 80 to 85% all sliders maxed... I guess I have to spend the 100

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Torben,For your info, my system is only based on an old 3200XP and, with the default .cfg, I have had the 757 regularly at 4x and 8x without any AP problems. John Rooum

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Hi John,please would you show me your default fs9 cfg? may be I can tune some settings so it will run better..._______________________Regards, Torben Hadlerhttp://www.step-by-media.com die neue Community! Auch f

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Torben,Sorry - I meant the default 757 aircraft.cfg ie as I installed with no changes to the aircraft loading.I will run a couple of tests to see if I can reproduce the AP problem and post back later.John

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Torben,Just flown UK - Malta. TOC to s/c at 4X, then the step climb, final cruise and descent to 3000 ft at 8X. The AP was steady thoughout.My system is AMD 3200XP, 1.5Gb RAM, NVidia 6800 with the latest drivers. I have all sliders at around 3/4 with Traffic 2005 running at 65% and default weather. My aircraft.cfg loading is as per that posted by Norman.This problem was reported with the first release 777 - disconnecting the AP and then re-engaging often resolved it. If you do a search, there were two possible causes suggested - real world weather updating en-route and an early version of FSUIPC - but I cannot see how either could affect your system? What NVidia drivers do you have {a shot in the dark}?John R

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