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Hi,I have reinstalled the B757 with the latest version and I am quite pleased with the result. It is slowly being improved and it is now quite enjoyable to fly. It is still a rocket with wings but reading through the forums, it seems (and I have been several times on B757's) that these aircraft are very overpowered in real life anyway.I have a question, though, if I access the VC panel or a side view from the 2D panel, on going to spot view the loading of textures slows down dramatically and for a few seconds the view is jerky until it becomes stable again. However, if I do not access the VC or the side views, the loading from the spot view is very quick. It would seem that the VC has some inference in the MDL and affects the loading of textures and, I presume, the loading of gauges in the spot view (?). Is there a way round this so that using the side views (I rarely use the VC) will not affect the loading of the spot view?.My system is not slow by any means with a Core Duo, 2GB of RAM and a Radeon X1950 video card.Any help will be appreciated.Regards, Christian.

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I have had a similar problem. When looking at a side view of the VC from the 2D panel, the FPS will be alot lower and quite choppy. Returning to the front 2D view will result in lower frame rates than I had before. Switching to FSNav and back will get frame rates back to where they were.I posted this problem a while back, but no response.I do get the impression sometimes that posts/emails are ignored if the problems are too minor or troblesome to fix. Just an observation.I experience this with both the 757 and the 777.

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One further finding. I deleted all the gauges and the stutters, frame drop all dissappear. I would imagine one or some of the gauges are causing a conflict since the 2D panel works fine.Christian.

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Hi Chritian,I have the same problem, can you explain me your solution? I get oom error too when I land on a big airport sometimes. There is a problem with the memory I think. Thank youChristian

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Hi Chris,It is quite likely that the PSS B757 is memory hungry. Using the windows system I can see FS9 eating up a good 700MB-800MB of RAM when using the B757. If you have less than 1GB RAM you are likely to have a memory problem.To solve the problem of the FPS and stutters, I deleted all the gauge entries in the VC sections of the panel.cfg (make a backup first). You will loose the gauges in the VC but at least you'll have some kind of side panel. That's it.Regards,Christian.PS: I wish PSS would reply to my original post!.

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Hi,Thank you, I have 2GB of memory but yes I know this aircraft "eat" too much memory, that's not correct PSS must think about that...RegardsChristian

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Check your other stuff then. I have 2GB of RAM too and I have never run out of memory even at "heavy" airports such as Fly Tampa's KMIA or some of the earlier sceneries that were not known for making good usage of RAM. You must have some other programs running in the background that may be causing the problem. What else do you run concurrently?.Rgds., Christian.

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I can get an out of memory if I watch around the plane or change view often before landing. If I don't get an error memory I get an fe.dll or other dll effects... but only with this plane and sometimes with the pmdg 747, but the 757 is the worst.....If I stay in the cockpit and don't watch around me all work perfectly but I must stay quiet in my cockpit.I watch the task manager for the flight lsgg-egll at the beginning I had 1075Mb and progressively I obtain at the end of the flight 1535MB!!! It's too high if I did a replay the pc freeze and I must do a reset.Christian

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Weird. I wonder if EGLL has anything to do with it. I must admit I have not used the 757 in EGLL but KMIA that is no light scenery by any means, doesn't have any problems. I have used UK2000 Heathrow Pro v2 with no problems and other aircraft.Christian.

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A question for you again, do you have this increase of memory usage during your flight with the 757 or is it stable all the times?I have to try an another flight to test if it's always like that.Thank youChristian

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Hi,I think I have found the problem of the 757. The memory increase every time I change view, cockpit 2d to view outside. I try it cold and dark without any other program at the gate, only I switch view inside outside and the memory in the taskbar increase progressively to 900Mo to 1,6Go and I get an fe.dll without do anything with the plane just changing view a lot of time, very strange!!!!I try other plane, and no problems with the others memory stay stable, so I think there is a problem with the texture of the plane or the loading of these texture...Christian

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Are you using the latest version?.I did a long flight (6 hours) not long ago and didn't experience any memory issues and I did switch views to spot view quite a few times but no problems - didn't switch to VC though!. I do believe that there was a problem with the early version v1.0 of this aircraft. I'll check it again tonight when I get home.Did you delete the VC gauges from the panel.cfg file to see what happens?.Regards,Christian C.

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Hi,Yes I have the last version 1.3 and I have take the version without the virtual cockpit....And me too I can make long flight that's not the problem but if I switch too much outside view - cockpit during my flight the memory increase gently till the memory is full and if the airport at the end of my flight is complex the system has not enough memory to display and I get an error. (fe.dll for example or g3d.dll)Try it but it is not necessary to fly just stay at gate, watch the taskbar and switch view from 2d cockpit to outside view every 20, 30 seconds many times and see what happend. Maybe it's only me :( but it's very strange....Christian

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Hi, have the same problem as described. I experienced terrible stutters in the outside view and the VC view. I read in the manual somewhere in the beginning that if the user experiences stutters, one should decrease the virtual vockpit gauge quality (the slider can be found in the FS9 settings menu).After doing that the aircaft was still frame hungry but much, much smoother. The quality of the gauges did not change much.Problem no.2 was the increasing memory usage by changing the views. 2D - VC - Outside. Everytime the view is changed, the memory usage increases. That is ok so far and happens with every other aircraft too. But normaly the memory then is released sometime after the view change, close to the value before the view change. It's like the system levels the used memory by releasing it.Not so with the PSS 757! Everytime the view is changed, the memory usage increases up to a level which WinXP can not handle anymore. The result is an OOM, or fe.dll. I have also experienced this problem with the Flight1 Super80. Because of the OOM's this aircraft was not flyable for me.But to totaly confuse everybody, here comes part 2 of my OOM story. I experienced this problem with the following hardware: ASUS GF6800GT with 256 MB RAM DualCore 6600 2GB DDR400 RAM ASROCK MB Last weekend I purchased a new graphic card, a brand new SAPPHIRE RADEON X1950 Pro with 512 MB RAM. So about the first thing I did was hop into my 757 cockpit, performing a testflight from GCTS (Teneriffe) to LEMD (Madrid).I watched the memory usage very closely and could not experience any increasing memory usage. By the way, before I had an OOM over Spain during the same flight.So either it was just a lucky day or the new SAPPHIRE card did it (512MB RAM!). Ofcourse I will perorm more testflights. Regards Frank

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Christian C & Chrsitian CGThe problem is to reproduce your crash. You will see from the forum that other examples of this issue have been caused by other add-ons {eg some SE Asia scenery which did enable us to reproduce the problem}.Today I tried two experiments with the Task Manager running and a clean FS9 installation:1. I ran the 757 at a hold for 1.5 hrs - I changed views several times every 10 minutes. At the end, mem useage had only increased by 10%.2. I loaded the 757 at the hold and then changed views as as fast I could - I gave up as I could not increase mem useage over about 10%.3. I have also run the 757 for max endurance - again without this issue.That said, some folks undoubtedly see this problem - perhaps it is an intereaction with another add-on. If you post here what you have I will try and reproduce.RegardsJohn R

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Hi John,My test, change the view every 20 seconds and normally you'll will see the increase of the memory in the taskbar but it is not in one minute sometimes when I change the view the memory stay stable it depends on how many time you switch the view , I was at LSGG (at the gate) cold and dark cockpit (my add-on: fs navigator,fs global 2008, traffic 2005) that's all in activity).I try it with other add-on like the PSS77 here no problem the memory stay stable....My system AMD X2 4400, EGVA 8800 gtx 768 MB, 2GB CORSAIR.Christian

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Had a quick check at lunchtime and used the B757 with Heathrow pro v2. Memory usage increased slightly when switching views but went back down upon returning to the cockpit 2 D view. Having said that, please bear in mind that I have no gauges installed in the VC only the bitmap of the panel. I wonder...Christian C.

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