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hi,im daryl, and i just got the PSS B777. As im new to this panel, i decided to take the tutorial flight to get use to the FMC and CDU.everything went smoothly until takeoff. Once i engaged the autopilot(the LNAV and VNAV already on on the ground. A/T also engaged) the plane rolls hard left and right. and the VS also drops to about -3000. i've been searching tons of forums but nothing can help. is it because of the software problem or is the autopilot meant to rol left and right. please help!!! tqDaryl

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Daryl,Good Mornng. First thing to look at is how you load the 777 in the first place. You have the classic symptoms of not loading the aircraft correctly.It is important that, initially, FS9 is started with its original default flight. This ensures that the 777 initialises correctly.Please see this link:http://www.phoenix-simulation.co.uk/defaul...displayfaq&id=8and ensure you follow this advice. If the AP is still playing up, please post back.Good LuckJohn Rooum

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hey,1st of all, Thank you very much. I appreciate your time for helping me. But unfortunately i tried the default flight but the same thing still happen. i've reread the tutorial and it says something im not so sure what it means. It says (you must not have changed the original FS default flight, if you have it will cause problems, please reset it to flights/other/'FLTSIM.FLT') i think i may have done something with the default flight but the problem is i dont know what and i also dont know what it means about FLTSIM.FLT. I would really appreciate if you can spend a couple of minutes to elaborate more about this. thanks Daryl

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Daryl,OK we can resolve this easily but first - whcu version of the 777 do you have? Is it the cd version of the download version?John R

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Daryl,Forget the tutorial for a while. Lets get you into the correct default flight first.As I said, please use this link:http://www.phoenix-simulation.co.uk/defaul...displayfaq&id=8When you get to the last section in "Choose a Flight" highlight "default flight". Then tick the box "Make this the default flight"Now you will always start with the Cessna at KSEA in the correct state to load the PSS aircraft and set whatever else {time location weather etc} you need.RegardsJohn

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hi john,alright i did what you told me to do. so i already set the autopilot after but not using VNAV and LNAV. i used hdg selector and VS/FPA button. But a funny came accross me.I assigned letter 'Z' on my keyboard to engaged autopilot. so when i used Z to engaged, the autopilot lights does not come on. but i dont have controls on the flight (o yea, the flight director already on). but once i use the mouse to click the autpilot, it lights up and the plane rolls. however, i still can control the roll and pitch of the plane (the plane will still roll if i dont steer the plane) i also found out that when it is alligned to its assigned HDG, the plane rolls hard to maintain the HDg instead of applying minimal steering. i find this quite strange as most other simulator planes i fly do not behave like that. i just want to tell you that im only 16 this year and im not a pilot. i just really enjoy flying. maybe im missing something that you might be able to tell me. thanks a lot.Daryl

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Daryl,I am off line now until this evening {zulu}. In the meantime, I suggest you uninstall and reinstall the 777 - that could be the problem.If not I can "walk" you though loading; initialisation take off and then AP engage.John R

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johnalright i'll do the reinstall. i would really appreciate if you can do the 'walk' through. thanksDaryl

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One thing I will mention here. Make sure, when you engage the autopilot, you are AT LEAST 500ft AGL (above ground level) Hope you can get it going as it really a spectacular aircraft. I've done 2 extreme long hauls with it and all went brilliantly.Goran

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hi,hey anyone out there. i need some advice. can someone tell me the difference between pressing button 'Z' (assigned for autopilot engage) and clicking the A/P button on the MCP. i tried both and the plane reacts differently. so im very confused here. To John R, i have been waiting for your 'walk through' so if your not too busy i appreciate it. Daryl

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Daryl,You are not the only one getting confused ..............!So, firstly, forget about assigning keys to functions on the MCP - we can do that once we get you flying properly.Secondly, did you do the re-install as I asked??Also, please come up on the end of the posts so I do not miss you.John R

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John,hey, thanks for replying. I have already re-install the plane as asked. And sorry bout not replying at the end of the post. I'm still quite new here and it takes time to get use to it. my bad. Daryl

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Daryl,Firstly, do not worry about your English. Its fine - I certainly could not describe things in another language as you do.So lets to start lets try a very basic autopilot check as follows:1. Load the 777 from the default flight on a runway.2. Set the fuel at about 50% and run through the FMC initialisation {ignore the route} using a cruise height of 10000ft and 15 flap.3. Set the MCP: FD "on"; AT "arm"; Speed "250"; Hdg to Runway heading; Height "10000"4. Check brakes off & flap 15 then right click on the AT switch {AT light on}. Take off, gear up when safely airborne, follow the FD for pitch and roll and bring the flaps up so that you have selected up by about 190 kts.5. Now at about 1500 ft select the AP by pushing the AP button - do not use the keyboard. The aircraft should hold wings level, speed should increase to 250 - 260 kts and the aircraft should climb to 10000 ft where it levels off and the speed settles at 250 kts.That is where my 777 is sitting now - let me know what you see?John R

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John R,Okay, first, thanks for the walk through. So i followed your guides step by step. Done everything you said without problem. but unfortunately, my plane didnt turn out the same as what you mention. Once 1500ft, AP on using button, plane banks left and right(instead of levelling off). i set heading to runway heading already. this continues until i reach 10000ft. Next problem, auto throttle wasnt controlling my throttle at all. once reach 250kts, it keep goin up. Next, my plane did not level off at 10000ft. it keep goin up banking left and right. Im pretty puzzled here. Daryl

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Daryl,Seem to me that you might be somehow using the FS9 autopilot and that there could still be a problem with your default flight.Are you able to use Windows Explorer {or any similar programme} to rename files or copy them around the computer?If you can, I will take you through another way of resetting the default flight.John

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Daryl,I can reproduce some of your symptoms by using the FS9 "Z" key to engage the AP - reason is that the AP in the PSS 777/757 are more sophisticated than the AP in the default aircraft.The following procedure will rebuild your "FS9.cfg" file and will reset the basic FS9 default values.1. In Windows Explorer go to the following folder:C:Documents and settingsYour NameApplication DataMicrosoftFS9{Note - If you cannot see any of these folders go to the "Tools - Foder Options - View" menu and select "Show Hidden Files and Folders"}2. In the FS9 folder, Right Click on the file "FS9.cfg" and click on "Rename". Change the name to "FS9.bak". Click on another file and click ok to confirm the change.3. Close Explorer and start FS9. It will start at the "Getting Started" page as if a new installation. Just go to "Create a Flight" - load the 777 and away you go!Try that simple AP check flight I suggested previously and let me know how you get on.John R

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John R,done everything you said.however, when i rename the file, it doesnt ask me to confirm the change. i dont think this is a major problem. but when i start FS9, it start at the last screen when i last played which is (select a flight). when i tried to fly, same thing happen again. aircraft continues speeding up above 10000ft and wings not level off. I guess this is not a day to day problem you face. HAHA.Daryl

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Daryl,"i dont think this is a major problem"It is - it means that you have not renamed the file correctly!So please try again and ensure that before you exit Win Explorer, that file reads FS9.bak!John RPS My details are on AVSIM with a time zone of zulu - whats your location?John R

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John R,I've already done it. Still same thing. BTW im in Malaysia which is 8hrs ahead of zulu.Daryl

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Daryl,ThanksAs you have now successfully rebuilt the FS9.cfg - mmmm ......I've seen some of your problems before but not all and usually they are easy to fix.It sounds as though at sometimes your AP is not engaging and at other times it engages but with interference.A couple more questions:1. What are your system specs - Processor, RAM, Graphics card?2. Do you have other aircraft add-ons such as PMDG or LDS - just to check that their AP work ok?3. Which version of FSUIPC are you using and have you made any changes here?4. Other add-ons?John R

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John R, hi,my com specs are are Pentium 4 3.0 GHz, 1GB RAM, and NVIDIA GeForce 6200 turbocache.sorry no pmdg or LDS, but i just got WILCO b737. It uses the same CDU and MCP interface with only slught difference and im having problem with that too. So im guessing its not PSS software thats the bug. As for FSUIPC, I have a registered version 3.72 that comes with Wide FS. besides AP, i also found out that my WX radar isnt working. Daryl

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Daryl,OK - this is getting interesting. Basically, I am playing with my installation to see if I can reproduce your problems. So more questions:1. Can you adjust the aircraft fuel load using the PSS Set up manu?2. In the FMC Perf page - what happens when you right click against ZFW.3. What doos the weather radar show on the ND when you first load the aircraft - and does this disply ever change?John

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John,I'll make it short and simple.1. Cant adjust fuel load2. The amount of fuel i carry onboard becomes gross weight.3. Weather radar shows test colours without any change.Daryl

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