Microsoft Flight Simulator: A Century of Flight

[Guest Terblanche]

All I ask from this FS2002 patch is:1. Please (PLEEZE) Microsoft we've asked it when you developed FS98, again with FS2000 and again with FS2002 ... could you enable the switch that will turn on runway and taxi lights in low visibility, regardless of the time of day?2. Fix those horrible clouds! Almost every other sim from Pro Pilot to Fly have better clouds than MSFS ...3. Enable the possibility to delete aircraft from inside MSFSFor the rest, freeware and payware designers are doing what MSFS could not dream to do. In my humble opinion they are the true designers of our flying pleasure!Dreamfleet - http://www.dreamfleet2000.com/Caranado - http://66.33.47.235/ecommerce/index.php3Wilco - http://www.wilcopub.comLago - http://www.lagoonline.comPSS - http://www.phoenix-simulation.co.uk/POSKY - http://www.projectopensky.com/index.phpMeljet - http://www.meljet.com/FSD - http://www.fsd-international.com/Brussels - http://users.pandora.be/robert.buysen.fs20...ages/index.htmlAustria - http://members.kabsi.at/stefans-web/stefan2000/Germany - http://www.aerosoft.comUK - http://www.uk2000scenery.com/puplic/index.htm... and many many more!

[Chris Willis 8]

Hi, "2. Fix those horrible clouds! Almost every other sim from Pro Pilot to Fly have better clouds than MSFS ..."Did you read one time the feature?http://zone.msn.com/flightsim/FS02SpecialFS9.aspscreenshotshttp://zone.msn.com/flightsim/FS02SpecialFS9Scrns.aspThanksChris Willis[link:fsw.simflight.com/FSWMenuFsSim.html]Clouds And Addons For MsFs

[Guest]

He didn't read anything, thinks it's a patch for FS2002 instead of a new version.He's just whining because his favourite DEMAND!!!!!!! wasn't met.

[Guest Terblanche]

JeroenI've read the line:"Dynamic weather system based on realistic atmospheric physics, with true three-dimensional clouds that form and dissipate, and automatic real-world weather updates when you're connected to the Internet."and if I look at the screenshots it looks like CFS3's clouds. I could be wrong but CFS clouds are NOT three-dimensional. They look 3D until you fly through them . . . I'm not "whining" about a demand but maybe you fly in clear weather all the time and only in day time, but if you ever fly online (SB) with real weather updates the last couple of weeks in Europe, you will find it more than unrealistic to have no runway lights when the visibility drops to 2000 feet and less.'DEMANDS' are for people with a short-man syndrome, underestimating the intelligence of tall men, while trying to through his weight around because he is angry of his own stupidity.The examples in our media are too plenty to ever try and DEMAND anything . . . hope

[Wolfko 0]

>1. Please (PLEEZE) Microsoft we've asked it when you >developed FS98, again with FS2000 and again with FS2002 ... >could you enable the switch that will turn on runway and >taxi lights in low visibility, regardless of the time of >day? >My FS2002 runway and taxi lights are on even during daytime in case of low visibility. Maybe you should adjust your settings.Wolfgang

[Guest]

I see most clouds in nice 3D in FS2002...Sometimes one pops up that's 2D obviously, but when you skim along the cloud tops in FS2002 you're passing in and out of clouds constantly quite nicely.So if they've improved on that in the new version, it should be even betterI have FSW clouds installed which might make the difference in rendering, but it does show that 3D clouds are already supported even if the default FS2002 textures may not show them in all conditions (or with all settings of your graphic options).

[someone 0]

Never mind.

[Guest GabrielR]

Hi, that's new to me, Please explain How.

[Guest Terblanche]

I know that when the vis drops beneath 2mi the lights will switch on, which means you can not see the nose of your aircraft and rwy lights will not help you a bit if you do a CAT III B/C approach ...... at dusk and dawn you have rwy lights for a while and then it switches off leaving everything dark with no visual of any rwy!Hell - now I'm whining!Let me not lament. Let us hope that Microsoft will read this and give us the option to switch rwy lights on with 3 click on the Tx.

[Guest Joshieca]

>All I ask from this FS2002 patch is: >>A patch!!! What country are you from? :-newbie

[Guest Terblanche]

Come on !!!You know as well as I do that this is an upgrade - go through that list of "WHAT IS NEW" and tell me what is NEW?Same scenery engin -Aircraft that you will find freeware and payware all over the internet -VC with clickable switches (hope it is not the same as the Wilco effort) -ATC have a face lift with request for higher / lower altitute -I seriously doubt if they will meet 10% of the WISH LIST that has been active for the last 6 months.Where I come from we call it a PATCH ... and by the way ... I'm from South Africa and very proud about it!

[Wolfko 0]

Here are some screenies.# 1 shows runway & taxilights a few minutes past noon at low visibility# 2 shows runway lighting a few seconds before it is switched off. I think it is allready enough daylight to see the runway properly# 3 shows the runway a few seconds after the lights were switched off (just to proof again that there is enough daylight)# 4 shows an apporach at very low visibility (1/16 mile or 100 m), where the guidance lights clearly help for an instrument approach.Wolfgang

[Guest]

Patch = as the name implies, a fix to bugs and errors. This is not a patch, but a significant re-working of the title. Ever heard of Quake II? Same idea. And on the subject of wish lists, seems to me MS listened. Most of the complaints about MSFS were about the very limited ATC, the limited weather engine and blurry textures in the distance. Oh, and a lot of people said they don't use VCs becuase they can't use the switches. Most of the other wishes are pipe dreams. Take fully functioning FMCs for example. Why on earth would MSFS dedicate the programming time to something that only a small number of users will ever appreciate. Doesn't make sense. The current market model makes much more sense and we get better products. Those who value that level of detail and realism are willing to pay more for it, and programmers are willing to meet their needs. And the airbus rant. Why no airbuses? Because the MSFS team doensn't have any kind of relationship with the Europeans where they can get dimension and performance data and time in simulators that they do with their neighbors, Boeing. We'll see about the blurry textures. MS wouldn't include them in any kind of feature summary because they have never aknowledged that its a problem. Is it worth $54. To me it is. I'm glad it's not a total re-work. I'm expecting all my add-ons to work out of the box, unlike FS 2002. Best.Colin

[Guest christian]

The clouds aren't true 3D. I dunno if anybody has done that yet though, I mean real 3D textures. Sounds insane to me anyway, imagine all those clouds as 3D textures and that where the terrain textures already seem to tax our graphic card memory like hell. Sure the GFFX has 256MB, but my GF4 with 128MB seems to struggle already with texture bandwidth. The extra memory should really be used for those terrain textures.Anyway, noone needs 3D clouds for good realism anyway. A reasonable number of imposters will do the job quite nicely. What would really impove the appearance of clouds would be realistic light scattering. Anyway, if I had the choice between realistic light scattered clouds or ATC at uncontrolled airports and dynamic weather, well... I think I made my point in the thread that went out of control. Thank god the features of FS9 will be locked by now, so all these insane suggestions won't make it anymore anyway.Cheers, Christian

[crvm 0]

Well well there buddy. Wait untill we get our hands on the product before you beat it down. This is FS2004 {well what we were calling it} and it's not a "patch". As to the cloud issues, that's why I bought Active Sky. I don't know about most of you guys here but I for one NEVER use the default AIRCRAFT or airports for that matter {well for the ones that have not been done by Simflyers etc.} and look forward to developers producing add-ons for us. It's the platform we want, I can give a hoot for the rest.Best Wishes,Randy J. Smithcrvm@iwon.com" A little learning is a dangerous thing"AMD XP2100 |MUNCHKIN512 DDR RAM |ECS[/b ]K7S5A MB |[b]GF364 MEG |WIN XP PRO