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Hi Charlie,1. Will see. Will be starting a new thread on this soon.2. An hour? Why so early?3. EPR will come with the Freighter upgrade. Pax models are N1 only.4. I'll talk to Cowpatz about that.5. TL... just answered it (same thread).Chrs,Bryan

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MB,Our SOP's require us to make a call when any selection may have an effect on the operation of the aircraft. For example if the PF is using the AP he will make a selection ie LNAV and say it as he is arming the switch. Both pilots will verify that the selection shows on the PFD as either armed or active as the case may be. At the present point in time there is no requirement to aknowledge this with a verbal response ie "confirmed LNAV armed". This is in accordance with the quiet cockpit philosophy. You would only call if it did not arm or capture. If the PF was hand flying then he would ask for the selection to be made and the PM would say "LNAV" when pressing the button. Once again both crew members would confirm the correct annunciation. Illumination of the light bar in the button is not confirmation that the respective mode is armed. This must be checked by what is indicated on the PFD.Any modifications made to the FMC, that might effect the flight path of the a/c, must be confirmed by the other crew member prior to EXECution. So for example if a direct to a waypoint was entered the pilot making the modification would say "verify" and the other pilot would check it for correctness and then respond "Execute". Then the track would be confirmed on the FMC and the ND.There are some operators that seem to use so much verbage that flight is almost possible by hot air alone. Inceased verbage does not necessarily equate to increased vigilance, in fact in some respects it can cause a conditioned verbal response to the command or checklist item rather than actually checking the postion of a control. The emphasis being on timely acknowlegement rather than checking. I have seen some instances of guys responding with the response and then checking the item after...sort of defeats the purpose. Also the more verbage the greater the opportunity to miss ATC calls and maintain situational awareness. Nothing breaks down awareness than having to recite "the lord is my ......" as you are trying to regain the approach path after some tricky speed control/vectoring onto a short final with traffic everywhere. Sorry turned into a bit of a sermon.....just trying to give you a personal insight.CheersSteve


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Thanks Steve,So then do you call out modes such as vnav speed path etc as they show on the pfd?Mike

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No we dont. We only call if there is something displayed that we would not expect to see or if there was an uncommanded change. For example if the aircraft departed VNAV PTH without any pilot initiated commands then it would be called. Also if you were expecting to descend and were 'hung up' on VNAV ALT instead of descending then it would be called. After a command is given and a button pressed we just both check for the correct annunciation.CheersSteve


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