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I've always suspected some of the dynamic blurriness in FS is caused when FS2002 runs out of "room" in the card's onboard graphics memory. For anyone who went from a 64meg card to a 128meg card, was there any difference in texture loading? Dynamic blurriness has never been a real bother to me, but I am beginning to spec out my next major system upgrade, as my four year old MB is getting way behind the times. I am curious, all things being equal, if the added graphics memory has made a difference for some?-John

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Hi John,Hmmm... can't say it had a major impact on my system. That being said, I'm still glad I went with a 128MB card rather than a 64. the price differnce isn't that great, and with this sim it's always better to have too much rather than too little.AMD XP2400 @2700ASUS A7N8X Dlx512 MB PC 2700Gainward GF Ti 4600 @ 330/730All the assorted stuff to make it work ;) Regards,

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Hey John, I had the Radeon 7000 64MB card before I got my nVidia G4 4600 and while I was surprised at how little it affected my FPS, the performance increased and the quality of the graphics was unbelievable! It was a whole new sim for me. If you are going to take the plunge go with the Radeon 9700 Pro, I have seen some great results from this card, even though some have issues with it. If I hadn't spent so much on my G4 when it first came out, I would have it, but I can't justify it with what I already have. Regards, Michaelhttp://mysite.verizon.net/res052cd/mybannercva1.jpg

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John - I have a 64MB 4200 installed but I've also used FS2002 on this machine with a 128MB card. Frankly, I don't see any difference. But for an upgrade I'd definitely opt for as much video RAM as I could get (or afford :-)). The only sure thing is that future releases of everything will use everything on the things we now have.Trip

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Hi John,As far as the memory amount or even the card for that matter the Dynamic blurries have nothing to do with the card or the amount of video memory (tested), that you will need for resampling for AA etc.You are however right on Q with a new MB, take advantage of the latest and fastest chipsets for the P4s/XPs throw in some fast memory and back it up with a fast cpu and the dynamic blurries will almost be a thing of the past, I say almost as you can add enough super detailed add-ons for FS to bring them back easily.

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If you are considering a Radeon I would really look into the 9500 Pro.I have the 9500 Pro $187and My roomate has the 9700 Pro $399On 3dmark his score is about 800 higher than Mine, and in Fs2002 he sports about 7 extra frames.I am running all sliders maxed at 35 average Fps.Visually I see no difference.I just haven't seen where the extra $200 fits in..Xp proAMD 1600XPRadeon 9500 Pro512 Pc2100Al

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I just bought a 9500 Pro, and it's on it's way to the FedEx Memphis hub for sorting as I type this. I will say that it took me a few days to get up the nerve to order it. I was very tempted to get a GF4 4600/4800 since I know that they would work well on my system with little trouble. After reading the forums at rage3d.com, I have my fingers crossed for a smooth install. There are an uncomfortable number of "Help!" threads there for all of the Radeon cards. Anyhow, this is what my new system is: Asus P4PE/L mobo (LAN and audio)P4 2.53 GHz cpu512 mb Crucial PC2700 ramWD 80 gig 7200 rpm hddATI 9500 ProWinXP (home ed.)+ the usual other stuff.My two main games that I like to play are FS2K2, and NASCAR Racing 2003. I hope that things go well when it all arrives in a couple of days.Tim13

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Thanks Chris,Another unfortunate sign of cleaning house for the new server upgrades that will take place here soon I guess.

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My install was without a problem.Make sure that you revert back to the standard VGA driver before you remove, and install the 9500.Al

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Just built a machine for a friend that is almost identical to yours - 2.66 / 512M of 2700 / P4PE / WD80 / ATI 9500 ("powered by ATI - Sapphire). The card was a 9500 128M and not the "pro" but it had incredible quality and worked very well with FS. I can't believe the huge improvement between that rig and my current 1.9 machine. I'm sure you'll be pleased with your new 9500Pro.

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That's encouraging to hear. I guess that part of the reason that I'm a little nervous about the whole ATI thing is that this is the first system that I'm building from scratch. I guess that we'll see just how much I know about computers in a couple of days... :-lol Tim13

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Tim, I just put together an almost identical system:P4PE-L, P4-2.4, 512 Meg PC2700 RAM and a GF4-4200-128.This setup worked great right out of the box and is IMHO just the right computer power to fly FS2002properly..The only issue I had some trouble with, was selecting the clock and memory speed in the BIOS..After some digging around on the Internet, I found that the CPU FSB of 533 is set by selecting 133 clock speedsince the motherboard multiplies it by a factor of 4.The memory gives you two choices: 266 which is synchronizedwith the bus, or 333 which is faster, but asynchronous..I tested both, found no difference in FS and selected the fastersetting, even though there are voices on the 'net that claimthat "faster is not better".. Hope this adds a little bit of context to the rather sparsemanual explanation..

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For what it's worth, I notice far less blurries on my present Athlon XP 1533Mhz CPU coupled with a humble 16Mb TNT Vanta card than I did on a Pentium III 866 coupled with a 128Mb Geforce 4 Ti 4400.

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Thanks for the tips Bert! I'm sure that you just saved me some frustration when I finally put this thing together. Thanks again.Tim13

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Hey all,I've followed this thread with interest, and was wondering if any of the above cards would make a difference on my antiquated system. I know that FS2K2 is very CPU intensive, so card in my case wouldn't give me much of the way of frame rate increase. However, I would like to squeeze a little more performance out of this machine the last few months that I will have it. My computer is a PII 400, 384RAM, with the Diamond Viper 770 32Meg card, running on the original Windows98 release. Actually it does fairly well with 2K2 provided I don't go crazy with the sliders.If anyone has a recommendation for a newer video card, please let me know.Regards,ScottCFII/KJMS

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Hi Tim13, I have almost an identical system except for the processor. See my Sig. I am very happy with my 9500Pro. It seems to work great with everything I throw at it.Ron

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Scott, I had a Celeron 900 which I upgraded with a GF4-4200-128Megcard. The main benefit was better looking and smoother textures that reached all the way out to the horizon. I was also able to increase my screen resolution from 1024x768x16 to 1280x960x32 without fps loss.I was then able to re-use the card when I upgraded the system to a P4-2.4 which more than doubled my framerates.In short, the GF4-4200 is well priced and can work for you right now, as well as in your next system..

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John upgrade 6 weeks ago from a Geforce2 TI 64 mb to Geforce4 TI4200S 128 MB (fast memory)In graphics a huge difference ( :-) ) as for the blurriness the same tweaks :( any difference for the blurriness hmm... a little...Get the fastest mobo and CPU you can afford to fight those blurriness :-)Andr

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Bert, Thanks for the info. That's what I needed to know (and wanted to hear) ;-)Regards,ScottCFII/KJMS

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Ron,That is very encouraging! Thanks for posting that info.Tim

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I agree with what Bert said about the 4200, and I would also keep an eye on the 9500 Pro. Now that the 9800 Pro is out, the 9700 and 9500 should drop in price which would put the 9500 Pro in the 4200's price category. Wow, that involved a lot of numbers! LOL.Tim13

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