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Brian Doney

9Dragons - util.dll crash on exit or airfield switch

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Anyone else had any crashes that resemble what I describe in the title ?I did a little searching, and found this thread:http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=sho...ing_type=searchThis sounds almost identical to what I am seeing. Could it potentially have something to do with the hardened areas/spotting locations ?If Clutch or someone else could speak up with the specific filenames, I'd be happy to test.

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Read thru the very large thread regarding 9Dragons.If I remember correctly, someone else was having this problem and it turned out to be that he had missed a critical step in the installation.Perhaps that is what is happening in your case.

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David,Thanks for the reply.I have looked at the thread you mention, and have retraced the installation steps a few times now. I guess the most notable difference between what I am seeing and what the poster in the mentioned thread saw, is that the scenery itself is displaying just fine here, and looks outstanding.The only non-standard part of my installation is that I have not removed Thomas K's VHHH2005. To be honest, while I appreciate the efforts of the 9D team, if VHHH2005 is the problem, and I have to choose between one or the other, then it will be VHHH2005 that remains. The crashes are not happening on every exit. They seem to be more common when selecting VHHX at start-up, and then exiting from there. Or, if selecting VHHX at start-up and moving to VHHH via the menu, the crash happens on the switch, and even then, not every time.I guess, as crashes go, this one at least does so in a way that wouldn't affect a normal flight, at least so far. I just often fly long haul in and out of the HKG area for CPA Virtual, and am very cautious about issues like this, as nothing can be more frustrating at the end of a 14 hour flight than the Tell Microsoft screen.I was just hoping that the hardened viewing surfaces were indeed the culprit, and that if they could be removed, I wouldn't have to worry about it.EDIT: For anyone else that is also trying to use both sceneries, be sure to disable TK's included landclass, to avoid issues with water, etc. Also, the old Hong Kong 2004 scenery that added in all the autogen high rises is not compatible, and will cause a crash issue of it's own.

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>EDIT: For anyone else that is also trying to use both>sceneries, be sure to disable TK's included landclass, to>avoid issues with water, etc. Also, the old Hong Kong 2004>scenery that added in all the autogen high rises is not>compatible, and will cause a crash issue of it's own.Hmmm... exactly what I was inquiring about in another thread. Does the standard uninstall routine for HK2004 actually remove everything it's supposed to? Or is there something else I will have to manually remove before installing 9Dragons?I've had HK2004 installed for ages.

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Brian, I am sure your issue revolves around the fact you did not remove your VHHH scenery. Great scenery Thomas made there. Just a no go with 9D. You will need to remove 9D to keep your VHHH running smoothly. Ah, too bad we couldn't convert ya ;)

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"Does the standard uninstall routine for HK2004 actually remove everything it's supposed to? Or is there something else I will have to manually remove before installing 9Dragons?"I'm not entirely sure, as all I have done is to deactivate the Hong Kong 2004.bgl for preliminary testing. With it active, I was getting an intermittent terrain.dll crash as soon as I attempted to load VHHX with 9Dragons installed. Deactivating it resolved this particular problem for me.

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Brian:Roger that. Much obliged for the info. I'll see how it goes with an uninstall and check for that BGL file.

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Clutch, Thanks for the reply. While unfortunate, it is certainly understandable, and I thank you for letting me know."Ah, too bad we couldn't convert ya ;)"It really has more to do with the fact that Kai Tak cannot support the traffic levels seen by todays Chek Lap Kok (especially in FS), than any real preference for CLK. I have used Jim Vile's version of Kai Tak for some time, along side TK's CLK, and will continue to do so. With traffic split between them, I can run CPA and HDA traffic at maximum without overloading either airfield. I do still appreciate your efforts, even if I choose not to use the scenery. You guys really did do an amazing job.Is there any potential to at least restore the default CLK for use ? That might be something I'd consider, if possible.

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Now I have a different problem. First off the scenery is out of this world. The problem I have is that I can not load some payware aircraft without crashing. I have no problem with default aircraft, but once i load ie: PMDG 737 or Eaglesoft CitationX, FS9 crashes. It doesn't matter what airport i load these aircraft it still crashes. I think I will start over and reinstall.

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Hi,First off, mega thanks to all involved with this package. Outstanding work!I have this util.dll crash. It occurs when I change to a different location using the menus or exit the sim. I am 100% sure I have installed everything correctly, having done it twice just to be sure.No biggie - just would be nice to know what is causing it.Jonathan

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Fantastic scenery and framerates are superb. 20fps+ all the time even on dense. Payware scenery designers should install this scenery and weep (or at least give you a job Clutch!).I also have the "util.dll" causing a crash when I try and exit FS2004. Other than that it all seems to work smoothly.I have tried to modify a copy of my default AI traffic file but due to the size of the file it took ages to go through changing VHHH to VHHX using "replace all" and then notepad crashed. I'll try the same again today so I can get some aircraft at the VHHX gates.Thanks again for all your time and effort. It was well worth it.RegardsAdam

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Instead of using notepad to edit the large AI files, consider using the wordpad. It's much faster.AMD Opteron DC 185 @ 3GHz, Zalman7700Cu cooler, Corsair XMS 2GB DDR, 7800GS-OC, Asus A8V MoBo, RaptorHDD, TrackIR4, CH FSYoke+TQ+peds, Eclipse RED KB, WinXP-sp2

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>Instead of using notepad to edit the large AI files, consider>using the wordpad. It's much faster.>>>AMD Opteron DC 185 @ 3GHz, Zalman7700Cu cooler, Corsair XMS>2GB DDR, 7800GS-OC, Asus A8V MoBo, RaptorHDD, TrackIR4, CH>FSYoke+TQ+peds, Eclipse RED KB, WinXP-sp2Yes just realised that about an hour ago and it took about 30 seconds to replace everything! Thanks for the tip - I now have a very busy Kai Tak!

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With regards to installation, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE RENAMED OR MOVED THE REQUIRED DEFAULT FILES! Sorry for the caps but I can't stress this enough. Go through the installation again and make sure that,C:Program FilesMicrosoft GamesFlight Simulator 9SceneryVehiclesscenery'vehicles.bgl' has been renamed 'vehicles.BAK' or similar so that the new file, 'Vehicles-9D.bgl' can work.Next, goto C:Program FilesMicrosoft GamesFlight Simulator 9Sceneryasiasceneryand ensure that 'HP978230.bgl' and 'HP978240.bgl' have been renamed 'HP978230.OLD' or '.BAK', etc. so that the 9D files 'HP978230-9D.bgl' and 'HP978240-9D.bgl' can work as well. If you don't, the sim WILL crash!By default, the 9Dragons scenery and Thomas Kwong's VHHH scenery ARE NOT compatible. This is due to the fact that both sceneries overlap each other.However, there is a workaround if you wish to have both running at the same time, full details here;http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=sho..._id=35432&page=-----------------------------------Flying Tigers Group pilot and 9Dragons Beta tester, Simon Dove9dlandedani.gif

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All's good for me. reinstalled everything. working great. Bob

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Well, I think I have found the file that is causing the crash, at least on my install.Addon Scenery/9Dragons/scenery/Kowloon_Top_Flatten_LWM2.BGLDisabling this file has resulted in no crashes in the situations I describe in my OP, however; it also results in some deformation of the checkerboard hill.

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Hi,first of all, a big THANK YOU for the wonderful Kai Tak scenery!! :)It is working, but I am getting util.dll crashes as well on exit. That is with the PMDG aircraft, with the rest, FS9.exe remains active once I get to desktop and I have to kill the process. The only thing that I did differently is that I didn't install 9D to Addon Scenery, but to a folder where I usually keep my scenery. But that should not affect anything. What I did:1. Uninstalled Kai Tak 98 completely (and VHHH even before that). No traces remain2. Checked and re-checked and then checked again for correct installation. All files are where they are supposed to be, No. of files correct. Renamed everything according to instructions.3. I have no other modified files in Scenery/Asia/Scenery4. I have a few additional files in Scenery/Generic/Scenery. Removed them, FS still crashing.5. Deleted everything in scenery.cfg except 9D and AES.6. Tried with no traffic, also deleted my traffic.bgl (which is by now quite big, 93Mb.)7. No duplicate AFCADS.8. Removed ALL Afcad files from Addon scenery/Scenery9. My /Modules folder is clean, I copy required .dll's there only when required -- I have a few .bat files to do that and then start FS.After all this, FS9 still won't exit properly. Now I am at a loss what else to do... Maybe there is another modified file somewhere in Scenery/World/xxxxx folders that is making problems, I do not know. I do have quite a few add-on sceneries but my FS installation is fairly clean, I know where everything is. Or at least I hope so, LOL.If you guys have any ideas what could be causing this, I would be grateful. It's not a biggie, actually, but kind of annoying. Yesterday, I had four instances of FS9.exe in memory and only noticed that when I tried to install an updated recorder.dll to the /Modules folder and it wouldn't let me, of course. Regards,Jure

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Have you tried disabling the file I name in the post directly above your last ?

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Brian,just noticed your post when I finally managed to post mine (lost internet connection while I was typing).I tried disabling the file, but fs9.exe still won't exit.Regards,Jure

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I think you are dealing with more than one issue then, to be honest.To test the util.dll crash specifically, load up VHHX with the file enabled, and try to switch via the menu, to VHHH. You should get the Loading screen, but it shouldn't make it past 0% before crashing. Disabling the file, you should be able to switch back and forth without issue.I also no longer get the crash while exiting. I wish I could be of more help with the FS9 process issue you are having, but I am not seeing that here, with or without the file I mention enabled.

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I had similar load & crash problems, Removed 2 files from Autogen folder Kowloon_east & Kowloon_west. Working OK now with VHHH installed.

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Brian,now I feel stupid! Found the culprit...I haven't made a flight yet and somehow, I forgot to plug in my Saitek yoke and pull out the darn Logitech wheel! I have joystick(s) deactivated within FS, because I do all calibrating and assignments within FSUIPC, so I didn't really pay attention.Sorry for cluttering the forum with my stupidity. Bah... :(Thanks for trying to help! All is well now, even with PMDG and the said file active, I can exit FS just fine. Regards,Jure

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Ah-HA! See, it's not ALWAYS the program's fault!!Thanks for posting that Jure, i'm sure there are others out there that have made a similar error.One thing I have noticed though, is that somtimes I will get the 'util.dll crash' when exiting FS9 BUT if I select 'End Flight' first from the menu and then exit FS9 from the main screen, FS9 exits normally.

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