Airliner XP

[phmcr 5]

I might have missed the news, but what has happened to Airliner XP? The content is off their website and there is no forwarding.Did they merge with AirSimmer (both are supported by Flight1)?Menno

[EngineRoom 205]

I can't say I've heard anything, but I'm not holding my breath.It must be terribly embarassing for all those involved seeing the huge hype and fanfare with which the aircraft was announced last year.It's a shame really because it looked very good, and if it lived up to the promises it would have been something very special.

[Guest ted320]

Jean Luc said in July that the project is still alive, but no hints of a release.The screenshots and videos posted last year show an almost complete virtual cockpit and FBW system, and in January of this year a German flight sim magazine published shots of the exterior model.I really hope that we will see this project completed and that either Jean Luc or Lou can reassure us that they intend to release it at some stage.TED320

[thepilot 65]

The project seems to be dead.Didn't they want to release it in early 2007 and not much later?They were anyways pretty arrogant to me.But we don't need to be sad about it, AirSimmer might come up with their entire A32S family in half a year, hopefully...

[onurksn 1]

>The project seems to be dead.>Didn't they want to release it in early 2007 and not much>later?>They were anyways pretty arrogant to me.>>But we don't need to be sad about it, AirSimmer might come up>with their entire A32S family in half a year, hopefully...Yeah, all I know is that Airsimmer is the one that has chances of comming out.Really, as long as it's a realistic, decent, bug-free "bus" it's fine by me, I don't even care about the price, I'll pay anything but please, quick!!!! *:-*

[Guest demanton]

The website (airlinerxp.com, not airliner-xp.com) is still there, but it hasn't been updated since last year and the forum has been down since February.

[thepilot 65]

>>The project seems to be dead.>>Didn't they want to release it in early 2007 and not much>>later?>>They were anyways pretty arrogant to me.>>>>But we don't need to be sad about it, AirSimmer might come>up>>with their entire A32S family in half a year, hopefully...>>Yeah, all I know is that Airsimmer is the one that has chances>of comming out.>>Really, as long as it's a realistic, decent, bug-free "bus">it's fine by me, I don't even care about the price, I'll pay>anything but please, quick!!!! *:-* The price will be (well) below 100$... it may look like a lot of money, but in the package there's everything one can need... A318/A319/A320/A321. And a wide screen panel option which is very important to me :)

[Guest DanWalloch]

Well if they are truly going to make the Airbus full functional then it takes time. Did Airbus write all their programming in 1 year?? But then again Airbus and it's vendors probably had a few hundred programers working on it.

[MarkRey 11]

That statement is probably more applicable to Airsimmer - AXP has long been backburnered - heck, it's in the fridge. regards,Mark

[B777ER 474]

Yep, tons of fan fare and the like for the Airliner XP A320 and then zilch. Lou Betti claims that they have to work on other stuff now to support their own individual companies and that the A320 is not the priority. My question is then why all the hype and fanfare basically stating its been worked on for a few years and its almost ready. Now the site is even gone. Lou, Jean-Luc and Vauchez (if he even is still around which I doubt) should really be eating a big plate of crow. AXP is nothing more than vaporware. Get everybody all fired up and then pull the plug or shelve it. Lou has done this iin the past with making announcements and then nothing with the A340 and I believe the 737-200 as well if I recall so I guess anything in the future with his name attached should be taken with a grain, no make that a silo of salt.

[ejoiner 15]

Plans change and circumstances change in life. I've always been delighted with both the dreamfleet products and Reality XP products I've purchased over the years.Frankly, I'd prefer not to see another airbeest anyway. Eric

[EngineRoom 205]

I wouldn't be so harsh on them, after all unforseen circumstances can create big problems, especially when one of the key developers apparently leaves the project.Anyway, as for Lou Betti, you should remember that he has headed the one company that probably gives us the best quality and value for money in the FS world at the moment...The Airliner XP saga has probably done nothing to enhance the reputations of those involved, and there's probably a lesson to be learned for all of us:For the developers: Don't launch a big marketing campaign and make big promises until you are 110% sure the product will actually make it to the market!For the customers: Don't believe it until you see it!

[B777ER 474]

Well said.

[G7USL 117]

Oh come on guys, cut them some slack eh?PMDG have been four years developing the MD-11 and its just reached beta.

[MarkRey 11]

That's not the point - it's not about time. Do you believe that, without adequate, clear explanation, the md11 project will kinda, sort of, y'know just well,...slowly fall apart? Leaving you to sort of kinda read the writing on the wall by piecing together ambiguous statements, innuendo and the disappearance of a key member from his own website? Followed by the PMDG forum just shutting down?As one who was 'into' the AXP project, here's what I wanted from the AXP team FAR sooner. 'We apologize to all potential customers but this project will have to be shelved for now due to unforeseen circumstances' - that's all, simple.It's not about anything but clear, concise professional handling of a bad situation.regards,Mark

[EngineRoom 205]

Nobody is having a go at them. It's just some observations regarding the way the project was announced to the community last year, lots of announcements on the major FS websites, the forums were buzzing with anticipation, and Airliner XP had its own website with the slogan "The Airbus you are waiting for."(Very ironic considering the current situation!). I remember going away to the Falklands in May last year and the word from the developers was that it would be released in Q3 2007. Here we are in Q3 2008 and the project appears to be dead in the water. One of the key developers appears to have disappeared and the others are remaining very tight lipped about the situation and its causes.If Airliner XP is ever released I will almost certainly buy it (at least as long as they release an FS9 version!), but if it never sees the light of day I won't lose any sleep over it. Suffice to say the whole situation must be pretty embarassing for those involved, and I hope they do finally work out their problems and get the product to the market.

[LAdamson 240]

>Oh come on guys, cut them some slack eh?>>PMDG have been four years developing the MD-11 and its just>reached beta.I fully agree! I don't even have a problem with all the fanfare when it actually looks like a project is in the works. That's just a normal course of business, and it's great for us to look forward to something. Besides, I've been around "beta testing" in the past, and Lou and team always had it set up in a very professional manner. As previously stated, life changes and everthing doesn't always work as originally planned....I'm more of a "positive" thinker. I give people credit for all the good works they've gave us in the past, rather than complaining and dismissing them, when I don't get all that I might expect in the future. Unfortunately, some seem to forget the past, and only complain about the future!L.Adamson

[G7USL 117]

>As one who was 'into' the AXP project, here's what I wanted>from the AXP team FAR sooner. 'We apologize to all potential>customers but this project will have to be shelved for now due>to unforeseen circumstances' - that's all, simple.>MarkJust because they lose a member of the team doesen't mean to say that they can't complete it, just that because of that, it's going to take a little longer.That's not rocket science, now is it?

[Gavin 93]

I hope we do see AXP pop up soon. The tricky bit for me will be if Airsimmer finish their project and everyone is very impressed with it, will I wait to see if AXP come back, or will I just buy the Airsimmer? At one stage I thought we were going to be having 2 high quality A320s to choose from at around the same time. As a potential customer, this looked good to me.I suppose if the Airsimmer one is released and it's good, I'll buy that and not bother if another A320 is released. I mean, how different/better could it really be?

[EngineRoom 205]

Does anyone remember the Pilot's L1011 which began development for FS2002 and then dragged on into FS9? It was a much anticipated release but quietly slipped away. If I recall correctly the panel developer left the project and took his work with him.I hope this story isn't being repeated.

[thepilot 65]

>I hope we do see AXP pop up soon. The tricky bit for me will>be if Airsimmer finish their project and everyone is very>impressed with it, will I wait to see if AXP come back, or>will I just buy the Airsimmer? At one stage I thought we were>going to be having 2 high quality A320s to choose from at>around the same time. As a potential customer, this looked>good to me.>>I suppose if the Airsimmer one is released and it's good, I'll>buy that and not bother if another A320 is released. I mean,>how different/better could it really be?I strongly suppose AirSimmer will be the better simulation. Their appearance is very professional and their forum not full of adverts for other products like a certain other one... you know which one I mean...

[MarkRey 11]

No, but apparently reading and comprehending my post in it's entirety is.I stand by my statement, AXP handled their issues unprofessionally.regards,Mark

[LAdamson 240]

>I strongly suppose AirSimmer will be the better simulation. >Their appearance is very professional and their forum not full>of adverts for other products like a certain other one... you>know which one I mean...Is the "other forum" from the guys that gave us excellent freeware years ago, and have provided some great payware products in all those years since?Do we have to be a long timer like me........to remember?L.Adamson

[thepilot 65]

>>I strongly suppose AirSimmer will be the better simulation.>>>Their appearance is very professional and their forum not>full>>of adverts for other products like a certain other one...>you>>know which one I mean...>>Is the "other forum" from the guys that gave us excellent>freeware years ago, and have provided some great payware>products in all those years since?>>Do we have to be a long timer like me........to remember?>>L.Adamson>>I guess.

[B777ER 474]

>Just because they lose a member of the team doesen't mean to>say that they can't complete it, just that because of that,>it's going to take a little longer.>That's not rocket science, now is it?Keep on drinking the kool-aid.