in FSX this is very easy because it is a standard command - but in FS9 ?? is there anyway that I can assign autorudder on/off to a switch on my joystick? - if so, how?thanksciao!Brian S

It should be possible, depending on whether the XML control command AUTOCOORD does the same thing as the AutoRudder command checkbox in the Realism screen (The realism section in the fs9.cfg has an AUTOCOORD entry but not one for AutoRudder).If this is the case (and I haven't tried it) then a simple XML gauge in the panel assigning the AUTOCOORD function to a standard FS9 event as defined in the key assignments should do the trick, since then you can assign it to a joystick button.Does that make sense?;)

You can do it with the registered version of FSUIPC. Regards,Jeff

I just assigned the AUTOCOORD event to a button on my stick and sure enough it works. I assigned it to button 10 by adding the following to the [JOYSTICK_MAIN {xxxx}] section of the fs9.cfg:BUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_09=AUTOCOORD_TOGGLELooks like button_00 in the .cfg refers to button #1 on the stick so edit accordingly.Jim

good news, I will try this, thanksciao!Brian S

I tried the "BUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_09=AUTOCOORD_TOGGLE" entry in the fs9.cfg, but it doesn't work :(. Is there a gauge that I can install into my panels? FS2002 Autocoordination gauges don't work ....

I tried the "BUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_09=AUTOCOORD_TOGGLE" entry in the fs9.cfg, but it doesn't work

Where did you put it in the FS9.cfg?It needs to be in the [JOYSTICK_MAIN] section.regards,Joe

Where did you put it in the FS9.cfg?It needs to be in the [JOYSTICK_MAIN] section.regards,Joe

Hi, and thank you for responding. Here is the joystick section in my cfg:

[JOYSTICK_MAIN {XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXXXXXXXX}]AXIS_EVENT_00=AXIS_AILERONS_SETAXIS_SCALE_00=64AXIS_NULL_00=36AXIS_EVENT_01=AXIS_ELEVATOR_SETAXIS_SCALE_01=50AXIS_NULL_01=36BUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_00=AUTO_THROTTLE_TO_GABUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_01=AUTOCOORD_TOGGLEBUTTON_DOWN_REPEAT_02=1BUTTON_DOWN_REPEAT_03=1BUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_08=VIEW_MODEBUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_09=GEAR_TOGGLE

It seems to ignore the entry! :(.

That's odd, it works fine for me.Just to confirm...This is your FS9.cfg and not the FS9.cfg.txt?The button it is assigned to on the joystick is labeled #2?On my Logitech Extreme 3D Pro it's the thumb button.What does...BUTTON_DOWN_REPEAT_02=1BUTTON_DOWN_REPEAT_03=1...do?I am curious because I have never seen a repeat without an event.regards,Joe

That's odd, it works fine for me.Just to confirm...This is your FS9.cfg and not the FS9.cfg.txt?What does...BUTTON_DOWN_REPEAT_02=1BUTTON_DOWN_REPEAT_03=1...do?

Hi :)It's definitely the cfg file.The Button_down_repeat sections are a mystery to me :( ... I'll change them to an event and report back!

I have changed the button section to the following:

BUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_00=AUTOCOORD_TOGGLEBUTTON_DOWN_REPEAT_00=1BUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_01=AP_MASTERBUTTON_DOWN_REPEAT_01=1

The AP Master Switch is activated/repeated as per normal, but the autocoordination assignment is completely ignored!If you are really interested/bored, here is my entire cfg code!:

[PANELS]IMAGE_QUALITY=1UNITS_OF_MEASURE=0QUICKTIPS=0PANEL_MASKING=1PANEL_STRETCHING=1[Weather]WindshieldPrecipitationEffects=1MinGustTime=10MaxGustTime=500MinGustRampSpeed=1MaxGustRampSpeed=200MinVarTime=5MaxVarTime=50MinVarRampSpeed=10MaxVarRampSpeed=75TurbulenceScale=1.000000DefaultVisibility=0DynWx_MedianDewPointSpread=10.000000DynWx_ProbCloudFormForMedianDewPoint=0.000500DynWx_MaxDewPointSpread=50.000000DynWx_ProbCloudFormForMaxDewPoint=0.000125DynWx_ProbCloudFormForMinDewPoint=0.100000DynWx_DryTempLapsePer1000Meters=9.000000DynWx_ProbCloudFormForDryTempLapse=0.000500DynWx_MoistTempLapsePer1000Meters=3.300000DynWx_ProbCloudFormForMoistTempLapse=0.040000DynWx_MaxProbCloudChangePerMinute=0.040000DynWx_MultiplierForDynamicWeatherLevelMild=0.500000DynWx_MultiplierForDynamicWeatherLevelNormal=1.000000DynWx_MultiplierForDynamicWeatherLevelHigh=3.000000DynWx_MultiplierForDynamicWeatherLevelExtreme=10.000000DynWx_TempChangePercentageForOvercastClouds=0.750000DynWx_TempChangePercentageForMinDewPoint=0.700000DynWx_MaxTempChangePerMinute=0.060000WeatherServerAddress=fs2k.zone.comWeatherServerPort=80WeatherGraphDataInDialog=0DynamicWeather=2LOADWEATHER=1MAX_UNLIMITED_VIS=96560CLOUD_DRAW_DISTANCE=63D_CLOUD_PERCENT=50DETAILED_CLOUDS=1CLOUD_COVERAGE_DENSITY=6DownloadWindsAloft=1DisableTurbulence=0CloudsImpostorRingRadius=48000.000000[INTERNATIONAL]ASLAT=2ASLON=1MEASURE=0[MISC]COM_RATE=7LOG_TIME=1FOREIGN_TRANSLATOR=0LOG_FILE=LOGBOOK[STARTUP]DEMO=0LOADSIM=1LOADWINDOW=1SHOW_OPENING_SCREEN=1STARTUP_DEMO=[GRAPHICS]FULL_SCREEN=1PERFORMANCE_MODE=0DEF_PERF_MODE=6TEXT_SCROLL=1AUTO_LOD=0DETAIL_TEXTURE=1WATER_EFFECTS=1TERRAIN_USE_VECTOR_MAP=1TERRAIN_USE_VECTOR_OBJECTS=1EFFECTS_QUALITY=2GROUND_SHADOWS=0SMOOTH_VIEW=1IMAGE_SMOOTHING=1TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=512COCKPIT_HIGH_LOD=1AIRCRAFT_SHADOWS=1LANDING_LIGHTS=1IMAGE_QUALITY=0TEXTURE_BLDG=1TEXTURE_GND=1TEXTURE_WATER=1AIRCRAFT_TEXTURE=2SEE_SELF=1TEXTURE_QUALITY=3LOD_TARGET_FPS=14NUM_LIGHTS=8[REALISM]INDASPD=0PFactor=0.000000Torque=0.000000GyroEffect=0.000000CrashTolerance=1.000000General=0.000000UnlimitedFuel=TrueTrueAirspeed=FalseAutoCoord=FalseRealMixture=FalseStressDamage=TrueGEffect=TrueManualLights=TrueGyroDrift=FalseCrashWithDyn=TrueCrashDetection=1[CONTROLS]KBDAIL=64KBDELEV=64KBDRUD=64PAN_RATE=400[USERINTERFACE]MAP_ORIENTATION=2PAUSE_ON_LOST_FOCUS=1PROMPT_ON_EXIT=1PageID=3OpenATCOnCreate=0SITUATION=DisplayFuelAsWeight=0SelectFlightLevel=0SelectFlightTitle=0[SOUND]SOUND=1SOUND_FADER1=0.500000SOUND_FADER2=0.100000SOUND_FADER3=0.300000SOUND_FADER4=0.800000SOUND_FADER5=0.500000SOUND_FADER6=1.000000SOUND_QUALITY=2[DISPLAY.Device.RADEON 9600 SERIES   .0]Mode=1024x768x32MipBias=8AntiAlias=1[DISPLAY]UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=20TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=40[TERRAIN]TERRAIN_ERROR_FACTOR=70.000000TERRAIN_MIN_DEM_AREA=10.000000TERRAIN_MAX_DEM_AREA=100.000000TERRAIN_MAX_VERTEX_LEVEL=19TERRAIN_TEXTURE_SIZE_EXP=8TERRAIN_AUTOGEN_DENSITY=4TERRAIN_USE_GRADIENT_MAP=1TERRAIN_EXTENDED_TEXTURES=1TERRAIN_DEFAULT_RADIUS=0.000000TERRAIN_EXTENDED_RADIUS=0.000000TERRAIN_EXTENDED_LEVELS=240[SCENERY]IMAGE_COMPLEXITY=5DYNAMIC_SCENERY=0DYN_SCN_DENSITY=0DAWN_DUSK_SMOOTHING=1SUNGLARE=1LENSFLARE=0[AIRtoCONTAINER]SIM1=Cessna Skylane 182R RGSIM2=Learjet 45SIM3=Schweizer 2-32 SailplaneSIM4=Sopwith CamelSIM5=Extra 300SSIM6=Boeing 737-400[APL]CACHE_WAV_FILES=1[TrafficManager]TrafficDensity=0IFROnly=0EnableAirline=1EnableGeneralAviation=1[AContain]ShowLabels=0ShowUserLabel=0ShowLabelManufacturer=1ShowLabelModel=1ShowLabelTailNumber=0ShowLabelDistance=1ShowLabelAltitude=1ShowLabelAirline=0ShowLabelAirlineAndFlightNumber=0ShowLabelFlightPlan=0ShowLabelContainerId=0ShowLabelAirspeed=0ShowLabelHeading=0LabelDelay=1000LabelColor=FFFF0000[OLDMODULES]FSSound.dll=1[SLEW]MaxLateralRate=40000.000000MaxVerticalRate=1000.000000MaxPitchRate=360.000000MaxBankRate=360.000000MaxHeadingRate=360.000000[VirtualCopilot]VirtualCopilotActive=0[MULTIPLAYER]ALWAYS_SHOW_INITIAL_DIALOG=1SESSION_NAME=My SessionPLAYER_NAME=Unnamed PilotGUARANTEED_MESSAGES=0MAX_PLAYERS=8MAX_OBSERVERS=0TICKS_PER_SYNC=90PACKETS_PER_SEC=4COLLISION_SECS=2FOLLOWING_MULTIPLIER=5ALLOW_PLANE_MODEL_SEND=0ALLOW_PLANE_MODEL_RECEIVE=0ALLOW_TEXTURE_SEND=0ALLOW_TEXTURE_RECEIVE=0MAX_SEGMENT_SIZE=100MAX_SEGMENTS_PER_SEC=1CONNECTION_TYPE=0PROTOCOL_SELECTION=0ALLOW_DESCRIPTIVE_SEND=1ALLOW_DESCRIPTIVE_RECEIVE=1AUTOPILOT_LOCK=0DISTANCE_DISPLAY=0ADF_TRACK=0ALLOW_NAME_TAG_DISPLAY=1CLIENT_CONNECT_USE_CUSTOM_PORT=0CLIENT_CONNECT_PORT=23456CLIENT_HOST_USE_CUSTOM_PORT=0CLIENT_HOST_PORT=23456HOST_CONNECT_USE_CUSTOM_PORT=0HOST_CONNECT_PORT=23456[SIM]SYSCLOCK=0[ATC]AutoOpenAirTrafficWindow=1UsePilotVoice=1ShowATCText=1PilotVoice=1[MAIN]Location=188,94,836,628HideMenuNormal=0HideMenuFullscreen=1Maximized=0[FACILITIES]COUNTRY=STATE=CITY=GTL_BUTTON=6225[WEATHER_MAP]SHOW_AIRPORTS=0SHOW_VORS=0SHOW_NDBS=0SHOW_APPROACHES=0SHOW_INTERSECTIONS=0SHOW_VICTOR=0SHOW_JET=0SHOW_AIRSPACE=0SHOW_FLIGHTPLAN=1SHOW_WEATHERSTATIONS=1SHOW_WEATHERSYSTEMS=1SHOW_DATATAGS=1SHOW_TERRAIN=1[WeatherAreaMap]show_airports=0show_waypoints=0show_airways=1show_vors=0show_ndbs=0show_markers=0show_volume_boundaries=0show_ac_twr=1[FlightPlanMap]SHOW_AIRPORTS=1SHOW_VORS=1SHOW_NDBS=1SHOW_APPROACHES=1SHOW_INTERSECTIONS=1SHOW_VICTOR=0SHOW_JET=0SHOW_AIRSPACE=1SHOW_FLIGHTPLAN=1SHOW_WEATHERSTATIONS=0SHOW_WEATHERSYSTEMS=0SHOW_DATATAGS=1SHOW_TERRAIN=1show_waypoints=1show_airways=1show_markers=1show_volume_boundaries=1show_ac_twr=1[MAPVIEW_MAP]SHOW_AIRPORTS=1SHOW_VORS=1SHOW_NDBS=1SHOW_APPROACHES=1SHOW_INTERSECTIONS=0SHOW_VICTOR=0SHOW_JET=0SHOW_AIRSPACE=1SHOW_FLIGHTPLAN=1SHOW_WEATHERSTATIONS=0SHOW_WEATHERSYSTEMS=0SHOW_DATATAGS=1SHOW_TERRAIN=1show_flight_history=1[JOYSTICK_MAIN {336F3250-B0B8-11DE-8001-444553540000}]AXIS_EVENT_00=AXIS_AILERONS_SETAXIS_SCALE_00=64AXIS_NULL_00=36AXIS_EVENT_01=AXIS_ELEVATOR_SETAXIS_SCALE_01=50AXIS_NULL_01=36BUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_00=AUTOCOORD_TOGGLEBUTTON_DOWN_REPEAT_00=1BUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_01=AP_MASTERBUTTON_DOWN_REPEAT_01=1[JOYSTICK_SLEW {336F3250-B0B8-11DE-8001-444553540000}]AXIS_EVENT_00=AXIS_SLEW_SIDEWAYS_SETAXIS_SCALE_00=64AXIS_NULL_00=36AXIS_EVENT_01=AXIS_SLEW_AHEAD_SETAXIS_SCALE_01=50AXIS_NULL_01=36BUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_01=VIEW_MODEBUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_02=SLEW_ALTIT_PLUSBUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_03=SLEW_ALTIT_MINUSBUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_04=SLEW_PITCH_PLUSBUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_05=SLEW_PITCH_MINUSBUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_06=SLEW_BANK_MINUSBUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_07=SLEW_BANK_PLUSBUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_09=SLEW_RESET[KEYBOARD_MAIN]SELECT_1=49,8SELECT_2=50,8SELECT_3=51,8SELECT_4=52,8MINUS=189,8PLUS=187,8ZOOM_1X=8,8SIM_RATE=84,10SLEW_TOGGLE=89,8SMOKE_TOGGLE=73,8STROBES_TOGGLE=79,8PAUSE_TOGGLE=80,8ATC=223,8VIEW_MODE=86,10GEAR_TOGGLE=71,8ANTI_ICE_TOGGLE=72,8ALL_LIGHTS_TOGGLE=76,8SITUATION_SAVE=186,8VIEW_WINDOW_TO_FRONT=222,8FREQUENCY_SWAP=70,8BRAKES=190,8SPOILERS_TOGGLE=191,8FLAPS_UP=114,10THROTTLE_INCR_SMALL=113,8FLAPS_DOWN=115,10THROTTLE_CUT=112,10VIEW=111,8ELEV_TRIM_DN=38,8CENTER_AILER_RUDDER=45,9ELEV_TRIM_UP=40,8DECREASE_THROTTLE=112,8VIEW_FORWARD=38,41VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT=33,41VIEW_RIGHT=39,41VIEW_REAR_RIGHT=34,41VIEW_REAR=40,41VIEW_REAR_LEFT=35,41VIEW_LEFT=37,41VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT=36,41VIEW_DOWN=12,41RUDDER_LEFT=37,8RUDDER_RIGHT=39,8BRAKES_LEFT=122,8BRAKES_RIGHT=123,8EXIT=67,10READOUTS_FLIGHT=90,9VIEW_MODE_REV=86,11PANEL_LIGHTS_TOGGLE=76,9LANDING_LIGHTS_TOGGLE=76,10PARKING_BRAKES=190,10MINUS_SHIFT=189,9PLUS_SHIFT=187,9FLAPS_INCR=115,8FLAPS_DECR=114,8MIXTURE_INCR_SMALL=113,11MIXTURE_LEAN=112,11SCRIPT_EVENT_1=219,10SCRIPT_EVENT_2=221,10YAW_DAMPER_TOGGLE=89,10CENTER_NT361_CHECK=57,11VIEW_TYPE_REV=83,11RADIO_ADF_IDENT_TOGGLE=53,10GEAR_PUMP=71,10SPOILERS_ARM_TOGGLE=191,9PITOT_HEAT_TOGGLE=72,9LANDING_LIGHT_UP=38,11LANDING_LIGHT_DOWN=40,11LANDING_LIGHT_LEFT=37,11LANDING_LIGHT_RIGHT=39,11LANDING_LIGHT_HOME=12,11PAN_RESET=46,9KNEEBOARD_VIEW=121,8HEADING_BUG_INC=88,8HEADING_BUG_DEC=90,8MP_GO_OBSERVER=79,11PANEL_1=49,9PANEL_2=50,9PANEL_3=51,9PANEL_4=52,9PANEL_5=53,9PANEL_6=54,9PANEL_7=55,9PANEL_8=56,9PANEL_9=57,9VIEW_FORWARD_UP=38,42VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_UP=33,42VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_UP=34,42VIEW_REAR_UP=40,42VIEW_REAR_LEFT_UP=35,42VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT_UP=36,42VIEW_UP=12,42INVOKE_HELP=191,10ENGINE_AUTO_START=69,10TOGGLE_MASTER_BATTERY=66,11INC_COWL_FLAPS=65,8DEC_COWL_FLAPS=65,9USER_INTERRUPT=27,8AILERON_TRIM_LEFT=37,10AILERON_TRIM_RIGHT=39,10TOGGLE_AVIONICS_MASTER=65,11INCREASE_CONCORDE_NOSE_VISOR=117,8DECREASE_CONCORDE_NOSE_VISOR=116,8TOGGLE_AFTERBURNER=32,8INCREASE_AUTOBRAKE_CONTROL=221,8DECREASE_AUTOBRAKE_CONTROL=219,8TOGGLE_STARTER1=49,10TOGGLE_STARTER2=50,10TOGGLE_STARTER3=51,10TOGGLE_STARTER4=52,10TOGGLE_MASTER_BATTERY_ALTERNATOR=66,10TOGGLE_GPS_DRIVES_NAV1=78,8INCREASE_CONCORDE_NOSE_VISOR_FULLY=117,10DECREASE_CONCORDE_NOSE_VISOR_FULLY=116,10TOGGLE_AIRCRAFT_EXIT=69,9TOGGLE_WING_FOLD=87,8TOGGLE_TAIL_HOOK_HANDLE=84,8SNAP_TO_PANEL=45,41MARKER_SOUND_TOGGLE=66,8TOGGLE_WATER_RUDDER=82,8TOGGLE_PUSHBACK=80,9TOGGLE_FUEL_VALVE_ENG1=49,11TOGGLE_FUEL_VALVE_ENG2=50,11TOGGLE_FUEL_VALVE_ENG3=51,11TOGGLE_FUEL_VALVE_ENG4=52,11KEY_CHASE_VIEW_NEXT=119,8KEY_CHASE_VIEW_PREV=118,8RELOAD_USER_AIRCRAFT=82,10EYEPOINT_UP=13,9EYEPOINT_DOWN=8,9EYEPOINT_RIGHT=13,11EYEPOINT_LEFT=8,11EYEPOINT_FORWARD=8,10EYEPOINT_BACK=13,10AIRSPEED_BUG_SELECT=82,11TOGGLE_TAILWHEEL_LOCK=71,9ROTOR_BRAKE=66,9ROTOR_CLUTCH_SWITCH_TOGGLE=67,8[KEYBOARD_SLEW]SLEW_TOGGLE=89,8SLEW_ALTIT_UP_FAST=115,8SLEW_ALTIT_UP_SLOW=114,8SLEW_ALTIT_FREEZE=113,8SLEW_ALTIT_DN_FAST=112,8SLEW_ALTIT_PLUS=81,8SLEW_ALTIT_MINUS=65,8SLEW_PITCH_DN_FAST=119,8SLEW_PITCH_DN_SLOW=118,8SLEW_PITCH_FREEZE=117,8SLEW_PITCH_UP_FAST=116,8SLEW_PITCH_PLUS=57,8SLEW_PITCH_MINUS=48,8READOUTS_SLEW=90,9SLEW_BANK_MINUS=36,8SLEW_AHEAD_PLUS=38,8SLEW_BANK_PLUS=33,8SLEW_LEFT=37,8SLEW_FREEZE=32,8SLEW_RIGHT=39,8SLEW_HEADING_MINUS=35,8SLEW_AHEAD_MINUS=40,8SLEW_HEADING_PLUS=34,8TOGGLE_AIRCRAFT_LABELS=76,11EYEPOINT_UP=13,9EYEPOINT_DOWN=8,9EYEPOINT_RIGHT=13,11EYEPOINT_LEFT=8,11EYEPOINT_FORWARD=8,10EYEPOINT_BACK=13,10

P.S. the key assignments are very different to the default! I appreciate your time :-)

First off, for those 2 commands I see no need for the repeat.That is for something like brakes, so you can hold down the button instead of having to tap-tap-tap it to apply the brakes.Also, In [JOYSTICK_SLEW] there is no BUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_00, it starts with BUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_01.So try this - BUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_01=AUTOCOORD_TOGGLEBUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_02=AP_MASTERPost back with your results.regards,Joe

First off, for those 2 commands I see no need for the repeat.That is for something like brakes, so you can hold down the button instead of having to tap-tap-tap it to apply the brakes.Also, In [JOYSTICK_SLEW] there is no BUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_00, it starts with BUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_01.So try this - BUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_01=AUTOCOORD_TOGGLEBUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_02=AP_MASTERPost back with your results.regards,Joe

Here is my updated code:

[JOYSTICK_MAIN {336F3250-B0B8-11DE-8001-444553540000}]AXIS_EVENT_00=AXIS_AILERONS_SETAXIS_SCALE_00=64AXIS_NULL_00=36AXIS_EVENT_01=AXIS_ELEVATOR_SETAXIS_SCALE_01=50AXIS_NULL_01=36BUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_00=AUTOCOORD_TOGGLEBUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_01=AP_MASTER[JOYSTICK_SLEW {336F3250-B0B8-11DE-8001-444553540000}]AXIS_EVENT_00=AXIS_SLEW_SIDEWAYS_SETAXIS_SCALE_00=64AXIS_NULL_00=36AXIS_EVENT_01=AXIS_SLEW_AHEAD_SETAXIS_SCALE_01=50AXIS_NULL_01=36BUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_00=SLEW_RESETBUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_01=VIEW_MODEBUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_02=SLEW_ALTIT_PLUSBUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_03=SLEW_ALTIT_MINUSBUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_04=SLEW_PITCH_PLUSBUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_05=SLEW_PITCH_MINUSBUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_06=SLEW_BANK_MINUSBUTTON_DOWN_EVENT_07=SLEW_BANK_PLUS

The Autocoord still doesn't work. I wonder if it's because my joystick is an older (serial) CH Flightstick? I may try a USB joystick a little later :)

I am at a loss as to why this works for me, and Jim Robinson, and not you.

I wonder if it's because my joystick is an older (serial) CH Flightstick? I may try a USB joystick a little later :)

Might be, though I think the difference is in how that joystick talks to the PC, not what it is saying.My last thought would be, is this aircraft specific? Are you testing with a default aircraft?I can't imagine it should matter, but I am out of ideas.regards,Joe

Deleted, nothing to with the quesytion.