Real MD-11 Routes

[Six7th 0]

Thanks! That has really filled a few gaps in my knowledge :)I've also just finished:

FDX6 (N???FE, LFPG-EDDF, EET 00:48 )N0490F230 RANUX UN858 BETEX Z110 AKIGO T180 OSMAX

Cheers!

[Guest abulaafia]

Thanks for all those great FPs!!I can add a real route from Asia: This is Taipei - Shanghai as used for the Taiwan-China direct flights and a variety of aircraft types, including the Eva Air cargo MD-11 for example. These are brand new procedures not propagated in the AIRAC yet. RCTP BAKER BERBA OLIVE SULEM OKATO KN SHZ AND ZSPDnote that OKATO is a new waypoint not included in the current AIRACOKATO N2735.1 E12134.6The segment Dongshan NDB 'KN' to BEGMO via OKATO consists of KN - OKATO 105/285and OKATO-BEGMO 032/212And for your way backZSPD HSN BEGMO OKATO SULEM VIOLA BERBA BAKER RCTPFlight duration is a scheduled 1:30. Over SULEM, flights eastbound MUST use FL240 FL280 or FL340westbound must FL250 FL290 FL370NO other FL will be assigned!China uses metric RVSM, Taiwan FIR uses feet. The area between OKATO and 5NM west of SULEM is used to transition between metric and feetSULEM and OKATO are compulsory waypoints with ATC reportingThe segment BERBA OLIVE SULEM OKATO KN is currently the ONLY route from Taiwan to central and northern China. Plan your route to other Chinese destinations from KN.For southern China, fly via MKG ELATO to Hong Kong (CH), then enter Guangzhou FIR from there. Charts are here: http://www.vatroc.org/english/charts/index.html. Eva fly their MD-11 to ZGGG at the moment, and used to fly to Macau.Other real MD-11 routes from RCTP are to VHHH, RJBB, WSSS, WMKP and PANC, pretty standard. Fedex flies RCTP to VHHH, PANC and Subic Bay, the later also a nice short haul. Further help for planning routes for your EVA MD-11 is available here: http://eaip.caa.gov.tw/eaip/home.aspx. Make sure to check departure restrictions for northbound routes. Look for current MD-11 flights here: http://www.taoyuanairport.gov.tw/english/s...yfromfile_e.jsp

[ubersu 78]

Well, let me explain it to you ;)For example, we take this flightplan:FIN5 (OH-LGA, EFHK-KJFK, EET 7:41)N0470F320 PIVAK P854 PIR UY70 PRI/N0467F340 UL80 TOGMI UP855 ABADA DCT 65N000E/M082F340 66N010W 66N020W 65N030W/M082F300 63N040W 59N050W DCT LOACH DCT FOXXE/N0471F360 N264A TAFFY/N0471F400 DCT ENE ENE4Flightnumber is FIN5, the flight is operated by the aircraft with the registration OH-LGA, the routing is EFHK-KJFK, estimated enroute time 7:41 hours.First stepclimb for this flight is up to FL320, the expected GS will be 470kts ==> N470/F320. The waypoint PRI will be passed at FL340 and a GS of 467kts, over 65N000E the speed will be announced in Mach, here Mach .82. At waypoint 65N030W will be a descend to FL300 at Mach .82. FL300 will be maintained until reaching FOXXE, there you will have a climb to FL360, expected GS 471kts. And the last stepclimb will take you to FL400 which you should reach at TAFFY ;)

Thanks very much for the plans and explanation!DJ

[RuiMC 9]

Nice! Tks for sharing it mate!Rui

[LeFreak 0]

First stepclimb for this flight is up to FL320, the expected GS will be 470kts ==> N470/F320.

the speed is not groundspeed, it is True Air Speed, TAS .. regards,Jan van HeckeF/O Avro RJ85/100

[lulupaca 0]

thanks! :(Is there any way to find out what Cost Indexes these companies use for their routes?

[Krister 51]

Torsten, I also have to say a Big Thank you! for sharing with us these flightplans. Just paste the text string into FSBuild as it is and voil

[Guest cuizinier]

thanks a lot torsten for these flightplansI have a quick question ... how are FLs determined on these route (payload weight and enroute winds ?)cheersJulien

[Guest abulaafia]

This is the real life Eva Air Cargo route RCTP RJAA. RCTP ROBIN R583 LEKOS G587 PABSO R583 BISIS G581 ONC ON POMAS SABAN GURAR DEMPA TAPOP W28 SOPHY Y52 SAKAK Y523 ALUPA NJC PERRY Y231 BOSOH V18 ORGAN VENUS RJAAFlights departing RCTP to Japan via R583 and G581 receive preferential treatment, such as climb enroute, etc. I think its to alleviate pressure from A1, one of the busiest airways around. Westbound return only above FL380!

[Guest Fly_By_Wire_09]

thanks a lot torsten for these flightplansI have a quick question ... how are FLs determined on these route (payload weight and enroute winds ?)cheersJulien

Hello,All of those factors are taken into account by the dispatcher , step climbs usually to save fuel and headwinds and same with step decend's. There usually use a special piece of software not available to the public domain. But you can use a similar software like F.O.C ( Flight operation center ) which will do those calculations for you. http://www.danur.com/frontpage/prod01.htmFBW,

[Guest cuizinier]

thanks for the infoJulien

[Guest Fly_By_Wire_09]

Hi,FDX9617 ( REG/N591FE SEL/ KLFR ) EDFH/LFPG/N0422F220 BITBU Y180 DIK UN857 RAPOR UZ157 VEDUSFBW,

[mikkel 9]

This list has great entertainment value for getting the most out of the MD11. Maybe it should get pinned, for new users? Btw: Any more real world routes would be greatly appreciated.Best regards,Mikkel

[Guest]

Cool! Thx! I specially like those short FDX flights!

[Mace 1,908]

Here's a couple of Alitalia Cargo routes. These are from October (someone else posted a big thread like this back then)AZAAZA9111 - KJFK/LIMCN0485F310 MERIT3 MERIT DCT HFD DCT PUT DCT WITCH DCT ALLEX/N0472F330 N93B CYMON/M082F330 NATW MALOT/N0478F330 NATW BURAK/N0475F350 UL9 BASET UL18 MID UN615 XAMAB UL612 MILPA UM135 GVA/N0477F250 UM135 TOPAZA9069 - VIDP/LIMCM082F320 LOSDO BUTOP A589 ASARI A466 SAMAR/N0484F320 A466 DI N644 PAVLO/N0486F310 N644 LEMOD/K0895F310 N644 RODAR/N0476F340 UN644 LAGAS/N0473F360 UN644 ROLIN/N0473F360 UN644 SIN UW90 INB UL852 UDROS UL744 MATEL UN605 GOL UL615 OSKOR