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Hi !I installing and than reinstalling a lot of Megascenery, and than FS9 refresh scenery library in every gamestart, and therefore the loading time increased. I deleted all scenery.dat files, overwrote scenery.cfg with fresh one from FS9 CD, uninstall freeware Canary Islands, because this cache scenery files to the documents folder, but nothing changed. Please help someone with any idea .

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Well it sounds like you have the scenery system pretty well down so I guess this is unlikely but did you inadvertently click on "Empty CD cache on exit" on the Scenery library page? I did that to check out some problem I was having and rebuilding the scenery .cfg on every start was the result.Cheers...................Todd

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Thank You Smokin256 ! :( I did it ones or twice in the morning, but not helped it. I worked on the problem several hour, and I don't want to reinstall everything . Any other idea ?

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You will lilely save yourself many hours of frustration if you bite the bullet and do a complete uninstall and a clean reinstall.This file may be helpful in that regard:http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID...amp;DLID=123907The key after the reinstall is to add only a few items back in at a time, checking to see if any problems show up before adding anything else. Sooner or later the cukprit will come to light.Good luck! :(

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You will lilely save yourself many hours of frustration if you bite the bullet and do a complete uninstall and a clean reinstall.This file may be helpful in that regard:http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID...amp;DLID=123907The key after the reinstall is to add only a few items back in at a time, checking to see if any problems show up before adding anything else. Sooner or later the cukprit will come to light.Good luck! :(
Hold off on the complete re-install for now...Try this first...Copy your scenery.cfg to your desktop (copy not move)Rename that file to oldscenery.cfg and copy (copy not move) back to your FS9 directoryNow rename the remaining oldscenery.cfg on your desktop to newscenery.cfg Copy that to your FS9 directory as well.You should now have three files in FS9 that are the exact same file just named three different thingsscenery.cfgoldscenery.cfgnewscenery.cfgAlso copy a version of scenery.cfg to application data/username/Fs9 directory just for giggles....I hope that solves your issue for you.-Paul

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TIP -After you do get it all sorted out (one way or another) get this fine little utility by Steve Greenwood:http://home.earthlink.net/~smgreenwood/dow...s/fsscenery.zipIt will sort and renumber scenery.cfg layers automatically, keeping your scenery.cfg in good shape. I run it after installing any new scenery.This works in FS2004 and FSX as well. The documentation explains it all.Good luck!! :(

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TIP -After you do get it all sorted out (one way or another) get this fine little utility by Steve Greenwood:http://home.earthlink.net/~smgreenwood/dow...s/fsscenery.zipIt will sort and renumber scenery.cfg layers automatically, keeping your scenery.cfg in good shape. I run it after installing any new scenery.This works in FS2004 and FSX as well. The documentation explains it all.Hello, I downloaded the above but unable to install due to "Run-Time Error 53" can you help?

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Hello, I downloaded the above but unable to install due to "Run-Time Error 53" can you help?
Just unzip it to a temporary folder and read the readme file. It explains that a particular "runtime" file (which most of us already have) must be present on your system - and how to download it from Microsoft if it is not.Hope that helps. :(

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Just unzip it to a temporary folder and read the readme file. It explains that a particular "runtime" file (which most of us already have) must be present on your system - and how to download it from Microsoft if it is not.Hope that helps. :(
Hello David, First apologies to zkalos for using his post. I ahave downloaded and installed the runtime files from microsoft. However, I am still unable to install the scenery folder, run time error keeps popping up.

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Hello David, First apologies to zkalos for using his post. I ahave downloaded and installed the runtime files from microsoft. However, I am still unable to install the scenery folder, run time error keeps popping up.
The program requires MSVBVM60.DLL - normally found in your Windows system32 folder. It may need to be registered in the registry.To do that, select Start and then Run and copy/paste the following into the box:regsvr32 MSVBVM60.DLLand then press Enter This works in XP - and I assume it also works in Vista also.

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Thank You everybody for the reply!I done everything step by step, but nothing helped. Everything looking good in FS2004 folder (I checked every scenery file by creating date). I dont understand, what happened. I had similar problem in the past as I remember, but I repaired somehow. Why fs doing this process every loading if nothing changing in the game ?

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The program requires MSVBVM60.DLL - normally found in your Windows system32 folder. It may need to be registered in the registry.To do that, select Start and then Run and copy/paste the following into the box:regsvr32 MSVBVM60.DLLand then press Enter This works in XP - and I assume it also works in Vista also.
Hello, Copied and pasted the above. Still unable to install the scenery folder. ps. I am using XP

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Hello, Copied and pasted the above. Still unable to install the scenery folder. ps. I am using XP
Not sure what you mean when you say you cannot install the scenery folder.The program is a simple exe file that I keep in my main FS2004 folder.Double clicking on the file named FSTscenery.exe should start the program which works automatically and takes only a few seconds.I can only tell you that I have used it for several years and it has always worked perfectly for me. :(

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Not sure what you mean when you say you cannot install the scenery folder.The program is a simple exe file that I keep in my main FS2004 folder.Double clicking on the file named FSTscenery.exe should start the program which works automatically and takes only a few seconds.I can only tell you that I have used it for several years and it has always worked perfectly for me. :(
I have doubled clicked the file named FSTscenery.exe and every time I get the run time error 53. I have re-downloaded the file again and still the problem remains "runtime error 53"

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Hello David, I have finally got it to work, I placed the exe file into FS2004 as you mentioned and it appears to work now. Many thanks for your support and patience.

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Hello David, I have finally got it to work, I placed the exe file into FS2004 as you mentioned and it appears to work now. Many thanks for your support and patience.
Happy to hear you got it all sorted out.Just a quick quote from the instructions if anyone else is having a problem:Use:====Place FSTscenery.exe and scenery.cfg in the same folder. Double-click FSTscenery.exe to run the program.The application creates a copy of your original as scenery.organd constructs a new scenery.cfg file in the same folderMove your new scenery.cfg file to your FS folder, if created elsewhere.end quoteI did not move my scenery.cfg but rather placed the FSTscenery.exe in the same folder where scenery.cfg resides - i.e. my main Flight Simulator 9 folder. :(

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ZKalos,It sounds like you're trying to delete as much FS9 default scenery as you can get away with (and use only your Megascenery-as it's all YOU need) in order to eliminate the loading of scenery by FS9 at start up time (ie: complaining about something that is 'normal'). There is no fix for this. The Megascenery may take a long time (3 minutes?) and that added to FS9 normal operation at start is too much for you. We all have to wait for this (and in FSX it is even longer a wait). The scenery cfg is not being re-compiled, as you seem to think, but is FS9 loading scenery so it can run. Huge difference. Must learn terminology, make note of 'error' name, and explain 'problem' EXACTLY' so we can help you better. Patience to endure IS necessary if you are ever going to be able to 'enjoy' the flight simulator(s). It takes a lot of 'work', too.Chuck BNapamule

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I placed the FSTscenery.exe in the same folder where scenery.cfg resides - i.e. my main Flight Simulator 9 folder.
Wow, never thought I would disagree with you David. I keep mine in a seperate folder and copy my current scenery.cfg into it so that if something should go wrong I don't lose my scenery.cfg.I will say I have used this utility a bunch without problem, but you never know...A pretty minor disagree wouldn't you say?Joe

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Wow, never thought I would disagree with you David. I keep mine in a seperate folder and copy my current scenery.cfg into it so that if something should go wrong I don't lose my scenery.cfg.I will say I have used this utility a bunch without problem, but you never know...A pretty minor disagree wouldn't you say?Joe
The program automatically makes a backup of the scenery.cfg file before working on it. But just in case, I keep my own backup elsewhere also. So we are not in disagreement at all. :(EDIT ADDED: In case you are wondering, I created a very short batch file which first makes a copy of the scenery.cfg file and then runs the program. It looks like this:copy scenery.cfg C:\Temp\pauseFSTscenery.exeIt is just a text file which I renamed copy scenery.bat. The bat file is in my FS Flightsiulator 9 folder also. I placed a shortcut on my desktop to the bat file. Works like a charm. :(

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ZKalos,It sounds like you're trying to delete as much FS9 default scenery as you can get away with (and use only your Megascenery-as it's all YOU need) in order to eliminate the loading of scenery by FS9 at start up time (ie: complaining about something that is 'normal'). There is no fix for this. The Megascenery may take a long time (3 minutes?) and that added to FS9 normal operation at start is too much for you. We all have to wait for this (and in FSX it is even longer a wait). The scenery cfg is not being re-compiled, as you seem to think, but is FS9 loading scenery so it can run. Huge difference. Must learn terminology, make note of 'error' name, and explain 'problem' EXACTLY' so we can help you better. Patience to endure IS necessary if you are ever going to be able to 'enjoy' the flight simulator(s). It takes a lot of 'work', too.Chuck BNapamule
I agree with Chuck. I have a ton of scenery in my ~4 year-old FS2004 installation, and startup to the Create A Flight screen is typically around 2-3 minutes, then a further 1-2 minutes to load the aircraft + scenery location selected.Back when I was using the photoscenery UK-VFR second-step scenery load times were typically around 7 minutes until I found I had to turn off Extended Textures with photoscenery, when load times dropped to around 4 minutes. I know that disabling sceneries not needed for a particular session might speed things up, but as I tend to fly all over the place I tend to leave everything active. Its not exactly go-away-and-make-a-coffee slow, but you learn to be patient.If new sceneries have been added then normal load times are a bit longer as the scenery database has to be updated.Incidentally, I still use FSNavigator, which comes with its own Scenery Database Compiler (to add airports, NAV beacons etc. so that they appear on the FSNavigator map) and this SDC has the nice bonus of keeping the scenery layers harmonized in the same way that the utility mentioned above does.Alastair

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I agree with Chuck. I have a ton of scenery in my ~4 year-old FS2004 installation, and startup to the Create A Flight screen is typically around 2-3 minutes, then a further 1-2 minutes to load the aircraft + scenery location selected.Back when I was using the photoscenery UK-VFR second-step scenery load times were typically around 7 minutes until I found I had to turn off Extended Textures with photoscenery, when load times dropped to around 4 minutes. I know that disabling sceneries not needed for a particular session might speed things up, but as I tend to fly all over the place I tend to leave everything active. Its not exactly go-away-and-make-a-coffee slow, but you learn to be patient.If new sceneries have been added then normal load times are a bit longer as the scenery database has to be updated.Incidentally, I still use FSNavigator, which comes with its own Scenery Database Compiler (to add airports, NAV beacons etc. so that they appear on the FSNavigator map) and this SDC has the nice bonus of keeping the scenery layers harmonized in the same way that the utility mentioned above does.Alastair
In regards to your startup to Create A Flight screen times, I have recently had something unusual happen.My startup to Create a Flgiht screen time was approximately 4-5 minutes. A few weeks ago, it suddently jumped to 10 minutes! I had added nothing obvious at the time. One day 5 minutes, the next day 10 minutes. The time from Creating a flight to "ready to go" (loading of scenery, plane, traffic, etc.) has actually remained the same - about your time frame. I have added many sceneries since and my time have remained "constant" at the above figures.Do you or anyone else have any idea what might have happened?Glenn

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Thanks Napamule !I didn't delete nothig from default files. I just uninstall several Megascenery with uninstall exe. After that my FS2004 Rebuild Scenery Library and Scenery Indexes in EVERY FS9 start (After click to the FS9 icon), like I installed a new scenery, and after restart FS. Sorry for My bad english. My main problem is not the longer loading time, what natural if I load a megascenery from the FS9 main menu. My problem is FS9 find new scenery files on every game restarting , therefore rebuild new scenery.cfg , but I don't know why, because I not installed new scenery, just only uninstalled. This natural on first restart after a scenery install or uninstall, but not on EVERY gamestart ! This not a big care, and because of this problem I don't want to reinstall everything for several week.Help me if anybody can.

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Zkalos,Sorry about the preaching. So, you do have an obvious 'unusual' problem. The question then is: what did you do? (1). First, do you still have the default 'AddOn Scenery' folder, with the sub folders 'Scenery' and 'Texture' (even if empty) where it belongs (under main FS9 folder)? We can solve this. All we need is specifics. (2). HOW did you 'uninstall' the scenery? Did you first go de-activate it while FS9 was running (ie: from the Main menu's 'Scenery' / 'Delete Area'? Then quit FS9 and on restart, then NOT find it LISTED when you go look in Main menu's 'Scenery' list? This is the only way to 'get rid' of scenery. Of course, if you put the BGL's in the 'AddOn Scenery' folder, and then removed them (BGL's) but did not delete from FS9 'Scenery' LIST (as above), FS9 EXPECTS to find them, and when it doesn't, it HAS to re-build the scenery INDEX file (which is what you describe as 'the problem ( ie: If it HAD found those BGL's in the 'AddOn Scenery' folder, it would not have to RE-DO the index file). The result is that the more scenery you add the longer it will take. Normally, when you stop ADDING scenery, the reuilding of the INDEX file also stops. So go do the above delete from within FS9, restart FS9, please report back, and we will then go from there. The whole 'structure' of the Scenery system is fairly straight forward and relatively simple. It is also very easy to mess up. OK? OK!Chuck BNapamule

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Thank You napamule !!!My problem solved now.I had a duplicated entry in scenery.cfg. Remember now ,when I reinstalled all megascenery-s with own auto-uninstallers, I saw that a lot of scenery entry are duplicated in the FS scenery library manage menu. I deleted them , but in the scenery.cfg one entry stayed, but this not was visible in FS library manage menu, only if I read the scenery.cfg by entry to entry. I have a lot of addon scenery installed and therefore it was difficult to recognize the problem. I use FS2004 from the begining, but I learnt again from this. Thank You everybody for replys !!!

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