July 27, 200916 yr Look I didn't ask you about your resume.. I specifically quoted a paragraph that makes absolutely no SENSE... combining VC++ and ASM is the stupidest thing I've heard of and then associating that to cache. this is how you code a 3d engine??? You're so far off the mark you don't even know it.
July 27, 200916 yr Look I didn't ask you about your resume.. I specifically quoted a paragraph that makes absolutely no SENSE... combining VC++ and ASM is the stupidest thing I've heard of and then associating that to cache. this is how you code a 3d engine??? You're so far off the mark you don't even know it.Ha! You definitely need to learn some manners boy. You have no idea who you're trying to dress down. If it weren't for Nick, there would be a bunch of lost simmers trying to find their way though the HW & skills to run FSX properly. He's done more for us than you'll ever know.Luckily, those of us who already know this are laughing at you for that remark! :( -jkDon't bother arguing with Nick, he has a God complex.You too.Except Nick has the chops to back it up, I'd bet a hundred bucks you can't even come close.-jk
July 27, 200916 yr Look I didn't ask you about your resume..You most certainly did.. you said I was trying to prove I was A+ Certified. I'm sorry, was that meant to be a insult? I simply assisted in clarifying my background in the assumptions you appeared to make. As for the tech and coding. Instead of me engaging you in a 3D rendering engine code discussion I will simply forward what prompted the conversion between Phil and myself about FSX and how it addresses hardware, and, where it bottlenecks that hardware due to how poorly it was coded.3) Current hardware and how to get the most from itThere are several parts to the performance cost equation outside of the GPU. CPU, FSB speed, FSB ( Northbridge ) chipset, Memory Type, and Memory Perf are all valid parts of the cost equation on the CPU side. An excellent
July 27, 200916 yr I'm sorry but with all due respect this shouldn't even be an issue now. FSX is unique and doesn't fit ANY benchmarks on ANY site, ANYWHERE! No HW site pays enough attention to using it as a benchmark and if they do it's very limited.It should be its own benchmark suite. The "FSX benchmark HW testing suite". Like Everest!Nobody tests it like this which is why all the HW sites are misleading when it comes to the right stuff to buy for FSX.Everyone should know by now that fast memory, low timings, fast cpu and fast graphics TOGETHER is what it takes. And DDR2 is dead AND DDR3 1600 C6 Rules right now because it's too darn hard to get DDR3 2000 low timing to run right now (reference the Elpida Hyper issues). When we (FSX) can get DDR3 2000 C7 or better reliable then that'll be the ticket.-jk
July 27, 200916 yr When you are arguing with NickN...You are arguing with the FS community. Enough said...You can lock it now
July 27, 200916 yr Author I am certainly finished and I do think Mitch is now on the right path so this thread has run its course-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Nick, this thread was VERY informative, not just for myself, who created it...but for all the readers as well.I'm going to let my new system 'burn in' with the 1066's and then when I see there are no issues...will order either the second set highlighted, or...if they are available...the DDR31600-6-5-5-5 Kit.I really enjoyed viewing that Latency Chart. That was a major for my deciding to try premium memory.Thank you for your contributions to this thread. :)Cheers!Mitch
July 27, 200916 yr I am certainly finished and I do think Mitch is now on the right path so this thread has run its course-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Nick, this thread was VERY informative, not just for myself, who created it...but for all the readers as well.I'm going to let my new system 'burn in' with the 1066's and then when I see there are no issues...will order either the second set highlighted, or...if they are available...the DDR31600-6-5-5-5 Kit.I really enjoyed viewing that Latency Chart. That was a major for my deciding to try premium memory.Thank you for your contributions to this thread. :)Cheers!MitchMitchA few words before you embark on your new missionA 64bit OS is required with this new hardware in order to get the most out of it. That means either XP x64 or Vista64Please do not fall for the hype of Windows7 as there are issues with that OS and FSX with respect to FSX features and some problems with the scenery library and adding items to it. There are workarounds for most of the problems and hopefully what is wrong will have been adressed before the full release version of W7. There is absolutely no performance advantage with Windows7 as compared to Vista64 or XP x64. All three will run FSX fairly equal assuming the user has indeed set up the OS
July 27, 200916 yr I'm going to let my new system 'burn in' with the 1066's and then when I see there are no issues...will order either the second set highlighted, or...if they are available...the DDR31600-6-5-5-5 Kit.MitchI
July 27, 200916 yr Nick also said the difference between the two (6-7-6-18 and 6-6-5-18) is not going to make a defined impact except in the case of someone who trims a BIOS to its maximum efficiency and even then, that close in timing is not going to make any 'significant' impact in FSXThere is no need to wait. In your case Mitch those 6-7-6 modules will deliver the goods for you and they are cheaper than the 6-6-5 sticks
July 27, 200916 yr Author MitchA few words before you embark on your new missionA 64bit OS is required with this new hardware in order to get the most out of it. That means either XP x64 or Vista64Please do not fall for the hype of Windows7 as there are issues with that OS and FSX with respect to FSX features and some problems with the scenery library and adding items to it. There are workarounds for most of the problems and hopefully what is wrong will have been adressed before the full release version of W7. There is absolutely no performance advantage with Windows7 as compared to Vista64 or XP x64. All three will run FSX fairly equal assuming the user has indeed set up the OS
July 27, 200916 yr --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------What I meant by 'burning in' is that I have purchased a Dell XPS730X (air cooled)...which arrived two hours ago...and right now, I'm going through the manual (something I have never done before...but...) and I wanted to run the system for a week with the Dell installed parts. If there became an issue, I would want to contact Dell and have ONLY their parts as installed and as supplied for diagnose. If after a week, there doesn't seem to be any issues, with memory operation watched for...then I shall order and swap out for the Mushkin. I also want to see how FSX and addons function with the 1066's, so I have a visual baseline, then will have something truly to measure when the Mushkins go in.Just a fast observation. I am in awe! The Dell 730x case and chassis is absolutely amazing! What a great and quality build. A massive build! There is such room and spaciousness in this chassis, that I can probably park my car in there at night, LOLOLOL! Very well done. I can hardly wait (after reading the manual as this is so much different to my P4 rig) to fire 'er up...and let fly! :)))) After having taken it out of the packing...and seeing the quality of build...I have absolutely no qualms about having spent the money beyond what difference there might have been in putting together one through Newegg. This is one beautiful computer. It will give me many years, I'm sure! My P4 3.4 is a Dell Gen3 which has never had one issue over the last 6 years and has been run so many hours, that if I told the amount, I would be labelled a hermit...LOL! Geez...maybe I am.... Shhhhh......I
July 27, 200916 yr Author Nick also said the difference between the two (6-7-6-18 and 6-6-5-18) is not going to make a defined impact except in the case of someone who trims a BIOS to its maximum efficiency and even then, that close in timing is not going to make any 'significant' impact in FSXThere is no need to wait. In your case Mitch those 6-7-6 modules will deliver the goods for you and they are cheaper than the 6-6-5 sticks-------------------------------------------------------------------------OK Nick...as per the above...a done deal. Will order them this week. The 6-7-6-18 kit. BTW, I noticed that they are XMP 2.0 enabled. :
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