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Word on the street is FS2004 NDA has been lifted today, so.....

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"yes, the NDA has been lifted."Really? Doesn't Microsoft send out an official notification first to those testing the software? I know press sites can post, but you'd think these forums would have been flooded with individual testers posting shots, teasers, etc..... You'd think they'd be the first to know... ;-)

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Many screenshots are starting to show up in many forums, including the Project AI forum listed in a different thread. FS Gateway has also posted shots from the Gold version.I think we'll be flooded with all sorts of nice shots/info over the next 24 hours...ed

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I thought both were press sites--at least I know gateway was. Just seems like there's little activity compared to the time NDA was lifted for FS2002. I'm surprised to hear that gold is out already--maybe that means FS2004's release is getting close?:-jumpy :-jumpy :-jumpy

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I'm surpised/dissapointed at the amount of time we have to wait between going Gold mid June and the July 29 release date. I've heard they wanted to coincide the release with Oshkosh. Nice thought, but doesn't mean much for those of us hundreds/thousands of miles away who won't be attending the airshow.Personally, I'd would have like to see the release date announcement/NDA lifted in mid July than sit around 6 weeks waiting for a product that's "in the can."EdKDFW

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I've heard the beta testers have received their Gold versions, so hopefully they can share some performance/features information on the final product.

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I don't if any NDA lifed today, but I do see it over the net, which dated 06.26.03, 2.07GB, from iMMERSiON............What are MS waiting for so long............

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I suspect the beta testers will also dispel rumors, falsehoods, and other issues raised by those dissin' FS2004 "sight unseen". Many in these forums are basing their comments on static screenshots, eyes stuck on fps counters, without full knowledge of how the reviewers configged their systems when taking the shots. I've seen more than a few in here coming in as if they know all. I quit worrying after Avsim's brief review. I figure I can wait until those who really know the new sim, share it....

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>I recieved the news Wednesday that we were now allowed to>talk about the beta test.Out of curiosity...... from who?L.Adamson

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Frank C. at PAI (www.projectai.com) has stated that the NDA was lifted and has posted major screenshots of FSCOF.

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I received my "Gold" copy yesterday and its much different (better) than the Beta I received last month. Question: "How well will FS2004 run on your system"?Answer: If FS2002 is running satisfactorily on your system now, then I would speculate that FS2004 will perform equally as well or better.Question: Which aircraft have VCs and which have "clickable" VC panels?Answer: They all do!Question: Is the Weather and ATC better?Answer: Yes, much much better!Overall, I don't think anyone will be disappointed, except for those wanting too much in their $50 sim.(secretly my favorite "new" FS default aircraft are the Cessna 182S, the Piper J3, and the "new" Lear45. The default 3D virtual cockpit in the Lear is beautiful)Bear!

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As I read this headline...I had a fleeting image of two shadowy figures in trench coats loitering on the street, and under their breath one says to the other....."the nda's been lifted...pass it on".just having a smileB

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You know, actually I was pondering the delay from the product going gold to the release on the 29th, and trying to figure out why it was taking them so long. Hell, I remember a couple of games that went gold and were shipping 2 weeks later. So my theory is that they're busy doing the localization...translating all the text into the other languages, redoing the voices, that sort of thing.What do you think? Is that a possibility, or does that defy the definition of "Gold Version"?

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Well the gold copy is already out on the internet if you know where to look....so someone has leaked it already. :(

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>You know, actually I was pondering the delay from the product>going gold to the release on the 29th, and trying to figure>out why it was taking them so long. Hell, I remember a couple>of games that went gold and were shipping 2 weeks later. So>my theory is that they're busy doing the>localization...translating all the text into the other>languages, redoing the voices, that sort of thing.>>What do you think? Is that a possibility, or does that defy>the definition of "Gold Version"?A game should be able to go from gold to store in 2-3 weeks, tops. I'm not sure why MS is waiting until the end of July, but there must be a reason for it.

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>A game should be able to go from gold to store in 2-3 weeks,>tops. I'm not sure why MS is waiting until the end of July,>but there must be a reason for it. That's because July 29th is the first day of the EAA AirVenture at Oshkosh.http://www.airventure.org/MS is a sponsor with this, so I am sure this is why it is being release on July 29th...you know this whole 100 years thing.[div align=center][link:www.jetdoc.com/STO/]Visit The Bookstore & Gift Shoppe][/b

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>You know, actually I was pondering the delay from the product>going gold to the release on the 29th, and trying to figure>out why it was taking them so long. Hell, I remember a couple>of games that went gold and were shipping 2 weeks later. So>my theory is that they're busy doing the>localization...translating all the text into the other>languages, redoing the voices, that sort of thing.>>What do you think? Is that a possibility, or does that defy>the definition of "Gold Version"?Do you think the release is delayed to better compete with the release of LOMAC??

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Whatever the reason I would say 99% of its marketing as with all products. The only thing I can think of that is pushed to the shelves as fast as it can would be prescription drugs. Other than that most companies enjoy marketing there products more than just supply shops with them as soon as they can. This includes running ad's in magazines and other point of purchase promotion stuff to get to stores. WHen you place an ad in most magazines it takes 3 months from when its due to when its printed. So like most companies that release a new product and have a good advertizing budget they want to come in with a bang and have a good promotion of its awarness. My 2 cents.Kilstorm

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Well I dont know if this could be related to the NDA or whatever.But I have just seen fs2004 has already been pirated on the net, and is available for download. Does not say beta or anything, so who knows.they work fast

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