Navdata

[Guest RST]

HiI have looked around but cannot find anything about updating navdata in fs. Is there anyway to update the standard navdata in FS9?Regards,Rasmus

[n4gix 4,947]

The reason you haven't found what you seek is because there is NO practical way possible to update the sim's navdata.

[scoob 18]

as bill stated ... and more detail here (same issue in FSX as FS9) -http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?showtopic=265391--

[out 769]

Try this, Rasmus:http://www.btinternet.com/~gb.mitch/index.htmlBetter than nothing. :(

[Guest RST]

HiThanks for your answers. So what you are saying is that fs9 is useless for navigational training purposes, as procedures and navaids are changed? As i could read in the other subject it is possible to modify this for individual airports. Is there a tool to manually add DME's, VOR's and ILS's then if you know the positions from the local AIP?Regards,Rasmus

[scoob 18]

... fs9 is useless for navigational training purposes

no ... navigation is the same, the DATA is different. the fundamentals don't change. i have a 1938 edition of 'american practical navigator'; covering theory, math and examples from the PRE-GPS world. there is nothing about what is explained/taught in the book that isn't applicable to going from A to B in late 2009.--

[WallysWorld 4]

Try this, Rasmus:http://www.btinternet.com/~gb.mitch/index.htmlBetter than nothing. :(

I've used that update before and it worked well.

[G-SWSM 1]

I've used that update before and it worked well.

What will this update do exactly please.Thanks

[mgh 89]

What will this update do exactly please.Thanks

As far as I can tell, it simply updates fixes. It does not appear to update any navaids.In its FAQ it states:Q Will the GPS SID/STARS work. A No. Although the are not changed they are not current since the default data base was not current. You can however use the DIRECT TO function from waypoint to waypoint.

[Orlaam 306]

HiThanks for your answers. So what you are saying is that fs9 is useless for navigational training purposes, as procedures and navaids are changed? As i could read in the other subject it is possible to modify this for individual airports. Is there a tool to manually add DME's, VOR's and ILS's then if you know the positions from the local AIP?Regards,Rasmus

You can add, edit, or remove NavAids using various utilities, such as AFCAD editors or "EasyNavs" freeware program. I've done it. The only issue is the time it takes, but I used EasyNavs to change a VOR, remove a couple NDBs, and relocate and rename a VORTAC. It can be done.

[n4gix 4,947]

You can add, edit, or remove NavAids using various utilities, such as AFCAD editors or "EasyNavs" freeware program. I've done it. The only issue is the time it takes, but I used EasyNavs to change a VOR, remove a couple NDBs, and relocate and rename a VORTAC. It can be done.

On a case-by-case it can, but then that wasn't the original question. What is NOT possible is to update the ENTIRE world database to keep in synch with the AIRAC cycle...

[scott967 62]

You should not update a VOR without checking the map to see if there is an associated waypoint. These are used in order to generate the ATS routes "Victor" or "Jet". The linked to AIRAC update only updates the 5-letter fixes from what I can tell. It also is implemented as a single file for world-wide coverage, which I'm not so sure of the wisdom from a performance standpoint. I also note that that replacement file does not contain any of the route data and I don't know what affect that has on the sim. Also, if you move or delete any VORs, NDBs, or fixes, you should check any airport approach data that might be affected and verify that the approaches haven't been broken. FS also makes a distinction between enroute fixes (pink) and terminal area fixes (blue). All the fixes in that AIRAC file are coded as enroute fixes, so if the fix exists in FS as a terminal fix you will have two fixes created (one pink one blue). No harm experimenting with it.scott s..

[Guest RST]

Hi.Thanks for the answers. I will try what you have been saying. The problem is actually just a couple of newly installed DME's in Denmark and Sweden, the procedures has changed a bit, and i'm unable to fly them without these DME's.>>The navigation technique is the samme yes, however, how to fly specific approaches becomes impossible without the actual radio nav equipment at the aerodrome. But it seems there's a solution.Thanks!Regards,Rasmus.

[Egbert Drenth 250]

HiI have looked around but cannot find anything about updating navdata in fs. Is there anyway to update the standard navdata in FS9?Regards,Rasmus

Yes you can... For Western Europe that is:http://pagesperso-orange.fr/hsors/navaids2.htmlRead the manual!