Sign in to follow this  
rcbarend

FSUIPC -- Todays announcement Observation

Recommended Posts

Content of this post deleted due to offensive language. A word of warning. We will NOT tolerate ANY form of vulgarity in the forums.... NO EXCEPTIONS. Enough said AidiForum Admin

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Help AVSIM continue to serve you!
Please donate today!

>BINGO!>>There you go, that's what I wanted to hear. How many people>are gonna do just like you and put FS9 on hold until all this>smoke clears off? Hey Gates! Are you listening? You better go>after Pete or come up with an FSUIPC of your own if you really>want to sell the new sim! I think Pete just killed 40% of your>short term sales perspective. Geez I guess Billy's wife is>gonna have to get rid of the Benz after all...>>MauricioI hightly doubt many people will hold back and wait ;-)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

"BINGO!There you go, that's what I wanted to hear. How many peopleare gonna do just like you and put FS9 on hold until all thissmoke clears off? Hey Gates! Are you listening? You better goafter Pete or come up with an FSUIPC of your own if you reallywant to sell the new sim! I think Pete just killed 40% of yourshort term sales perspective. Geez I guess Billy's wife isgonna have to get rid of the Benz after all...Mauricio"You are missing the point, look at the big picture, NO ONE forced the payware guys to depend on this module, it was their choice, so no, Pete did not hold a gun to their heads and say 'use this module or else!". Your analogy is off as well, say you spend a ton of time on an invention with many uses, you release it, several people find that this invention of yours helps them with their Inventions, so they start to use it, the uses grow as well as the users. You start to get a ton of emails from people saying how they wish it would do this, do that, you invest more time to make them happy, and still more time, finally your time starts to become very critical and the only way you can keep up the development and pay the bills is to devote your enegy full time to it's development, of course you have to charge for it's use since you are putting in the extra time to make it work for everyone, WELL now everyone is all POed they have to pay and rather than invent a new invention to help run their products, the criticize you the whole time they use your invention, that they now have to pay for!!! Sound familar?? It should!!As stated earlier, if you don't want to use it, DON'T, stay with FS2002 or be like the vast majority of FS users and use a product fresh out of the box with no addons that require an addon to work, "WE" are a minority.Regards, Michaelhttp://mysite.verizon.net/res052cd/mybannercva1.jpgCalVirAir International VAwww.calvirair.comCougar Mountain Helicopters & Aviationwww.cgrmtnhelos.com

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

>Quote:>--------------------------------------------------------------------"...Pete's>been doing on behalf of the community for so long at high cost>to himself and without any payment in whatever form at all!">-------------------------------------------------------------------->>Just curious, how much did it really cost Pete? Well, I imagine many 1000s, yes 1000s, of hours have been sunken into just the freeware module. Remember, this is from FS98(I think anyway, I was just a baby simmer in those days and knew nothing of avsim or Peter or FSUIPC so I could be off). So, at a minimum wage price(which is far too low for development time), he would be quite rich if he was being compensated monetarily from the beginning :)And, beyond that, this man spent much of his freetime doing this, which is to be commended :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yup, Pete would be quite rich. So would the guy who came out with the idea in the first place and who probably is not gonna get any payback from Pete. So would the wonderful guys at FFX/SGA for their superior 737 model when compared to all the fancy payware 73's out there. As a matter of fact, so would poor Oleksyi who comes from a decaying country and probably doesn't have lots of dough to ditch on this hobby.Problem most people fail to understand is that flight simming has extended itself throughout the world, and is not restricted to the "wealthy half" of the planet as someone else put it ("wealthy eighth" of the planet is more like it). If Pete had been charging from the beginning, FSUIPC would just be a faint memory of a commercial initiative gone haywire. We would now have freeware IPC interfaces of all colors and shapes. But Pete did the right thing from a marketing standpoint: create the demand, monopolize it and then put a price (and a hefty one) on your product.Hey Michael, if Peter spent time to make people happy he did it under his own free will (although I seriously doubt that FSUIPC is a full time venture). Nobody put a gun against HIS head and made him do it. Now the fact that he allowed payware developers to use his software is part of the whole scheme: Don't charge, make people simpathize while they become more and more dependent on the thing, and then, Wham! Give it to them on a single blow. Today we "seven eighths" of the planet are faced with sticking to FS2002 as many of you have suggested, or flying FS9 off the box. This not only sounds unfair but IMHO is destroying the very esence of the hobby. Worst part is Microsoft is not aware of how much this whole thing is gonna hurt their business.Soon there will be a "seven eighths" version of Flight Simulator and a FSUIPC enhanced "one eighth" version for you guys. I was wondering why previous editions had standard and pro versions. Now I know...Well, back to the gas mask...MauricioEDIT: Hey Aidi, I would love to hear what Andy Brockbank had to say. It was probably directed at me anyway... :-lol

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Mauricio,What a conspiracy we live in!Thanks for shedding the light on it and exposing treacherous Peter Dowson. Where would we all be without your analytical thinking...StamatisP.S. Take the mask off, t doesn't suit you :-)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Be glad that "I'M" not Pete Dowson. I would tell all you mealy mouthed, ungratious, selfish complainers to buzz off and I wouldn't release a new version at all! Then where would all those panels and add-ons be? You talk abouit the original developer - other than the initial interface there is NO similarity to what Pete's done.Not to mention the 1000's - yes 1000's of hours that he has spent answering dumb questions from FREEWARE users who don't know how to RTFM.Stop complaining ( altho it is your right ) and write your own. Don't know how? Go to school and learn to program first - then write your own. Or doesn't Pete's knowledge count for anything?You could also give up flightsimming and take up train sims.Or you could save up $20 and buy the product.Methinks you need FSUIPC more than FSUIPC needs you.Remember, I'm entitled to my opinion also :)vgb

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

>Methinks you need FSUIPC more than FSUIPC needs you.One of the most truthful observations I have seen made about this Peter Dowson 'incident' :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Quote:>Be glad that "I'M" not Pete Dowson. I would tell all you mealy mouthed, ungratious, selfish complainers (...) Go to school and learn to program first - then write your own (...) You could also give up flightsimming and take up train sims (...) Methinks you need FSUIPC more than FSUIPC needs you.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

>BINGO!>>There you go, that's what I wanted to hear. How many people>are gonna do just like you and put FS9 on hold until all this>smoke clears off? Hey Gates! Are you listening? You better go>after Pete or come up with an FSUIPC of your own if you really>want to sell the new sim! I think Pete just killed 40% of your>short term sales perspective. Geez I guess Billy's wife is>gonna have to get rid of the Benz after all...>>MauricioDo you really think Gates is bothered ?Did you ever ask yourself how many FS users never heard of FSUIPC and just use FS out-of-the-box ? My guess is 90% or more !!.Rob

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this