March 23, 201016 yr Hi,I tried to merge the Feelthere 737 panel with the 50N aircraft model.So far so good, except for the flap movements. Only the leading edge flaps move, the trailing edge flaps do not.Here's what I did:- I copied the FT aircraft.cfg to the 50N folder (incl the air file)- Aliased the panel.cfg to the FT panel folder.- Copied the 50N <views> and <lights> sections into the copied FT aircraft.cfg, replacing the FT sections- Copied the 50N <x.flightsim> sections into the copied FT aircraft.cfg, replacing the FT sections- Copied the 50N <flap> sections into the copied FT aircraft.cfg Only the flaps-position entries, other entries in the <flap> sections of FT remained the sameSo, what do I have to do to get the flaps of the 50N model to move?Or has FT panel some kind of proprietary code to move the flaps, not compatible with other models? Did anymore has a successfull merge, if so please share your aircraft.cfg. Location: Vleuten, The Netherlands, 17.3dme SPL 108.40 | Simulator: FS2024 System: AMD 7800X3D - Gigabyte X670 - RTX 4090 - 64GB DDR5 - 2 x 2TB SSD - 32" 1440p Display - Windows 11 Pro
March 23, 201016 yr Hi,No problems here with flaps but my aircraft config to compare.[General]atc_type=BOEINGatc_model=B733editable=0performance="Cruise Speed \n477 kts 550 mph 885 km\/h\n\nEngines \nCFM56-3C1\n\nMaximum Range \n2,059 nm 2,370 mi 3,810 km\n\nService Ceiling \n36, 089 ft 11,000 m\n\nFuel Capacity \n5,311 U.S. gal 20,104 L\n\nEmpty Weight-Standard \n76,180 lb 34,550 kg\n\nMaximum Gross Weight\n150,000 lb 68,039 kg\n\nLength \n120 ft 36.45 m\n\nWingspan \n94 ft, 9 in 25.9 m\n\nHeight \n36.5 ft 11.13 m\n\nSeating \nSeats 147 to 168\n\nCargo Capacity \n1,373 ft3 38.93 m3\n\n"[pitot_static]vertical_speed_time_constant = 1 //Increasing this value will cause a more instantaneous reaction in the VSI[WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE]max_gross_weight = 150000 // (pounds)empty_weight = 74170 // (pounds)reference_datum_position = 0, 0, 0 // (feet) distance from FlightSim Reference position: (1/4 chord, centerline, waterline)empty_weight_CG_position = -5, 0, 0 // (feet) longitudinal, lateral, vertical distance from specified datummax_number_of_stations = 50station_load.0 = "170.0, 41.0, -1.5, 0.0, Pilot" //Weight (lbs), longitudinal, lateral, vertical positions from datum (feet) station_load.1 = "170.0, 41.0, 1.5, 0.0, Co-Pilot" //Weight (lbs), longitudinal, lateral, vertical positions from datum (feet) station_load.2 = "510.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, Crew" //Weight (lbs), longitudinal, lateral, vertical positions from datum (feet) station_load.3 = "1360.0, 25.5, 0.0, 0.0, First Class" //Weight (lbs), longitudinal, lateral, vertical positions from datum (feet) station_load.4 = "8160.0, 11.0, 0.0, 0.0, Coach 3-10" //Weight (lbs), longitudinal, lateral, vertical positions from datum (feet) station_load.5 = "8160.0, -10.0, 0.0, 0.0, Coach 11-18" //Weight (lbs), longitudinal, lateral, vertical positions from datum (feet) station_load.6 = "7140.0, -30.5, 0.0, 0.0, Coach 19-25" //Weight (lbs), longitudinal, lateral, vertical positions from datum (feet) station_load.7 = "10000.0, 20.5, 0.0, 0.0, Forward Baggage" //Weight (lbs), longitudinal, lateral, vertical positions from datum (feet) station_load.8 = "4000.0, -27.5, 0.0, 0.0, Aft Baggage" //Weight (lbs), longitudinal, lateral, vertical positions from datum (feet) ;Moments of Inertiaempty_weight_pitch_MOI = 3172439empty_weight_roll_MOI = 2262183empty_weight_yaw_MOI = 3337024empty_weight_coupled_MOI = 0[flight_tuning]cruise_lift_scalar = 1.0parasite_drag_scalar = 1.0induced_drag_scalar = 1.0elevator_effectiveness = 1.1aileron_effectiveness = 1.1rudder_effectiveness = 1.1pitch_stability = 1.0roll_stability = 1.0yaw_stability = 1.0elevator_trim_effectiveness = 1.5aileron_trim_effectiveness = 1.0rudder_trim_effectiveness = 1.0[GeneralEngineData]engine_type = 1 //0=Piston, 1=Jet, 2=None, 3=Helo-Turbine, 4=Rocket, 5=TurbopropEngine.0 = 4.75, -16.1, -4.5 //(feet) longitudinal, lateral, vertical distance from reference datumEngine.1 = 4.75, 16.1, -4.5 //(feet) longitudinal, lateral, vertical distance from reference datumfuel_flow_scalar = 1 //Scalar for fuel flow efficiencymin_throttle_limit = -0.25 //Minimum percent throttle. Generally negative for turbine reversermax_contrail_temperature = -30 //Temperature (deg C) below which contrails may appear[TurbineEngineData]fuel_flow_gain = 0.002 //Gain on fuel flowinlet_area = 19.6 //Square Feet, engine nacelle inlet arearated_N2_rpm = 29920 //RPM, second stage compressor rated valuestatic_thrust = 23500 //Lbs, max rated static thrust at Sea Levelafterburner_available = 0 //Afterburner available?reverser_available = 1 //Thrust reverser available?[jet_engine]thrust_scalar = 1.0[electrical] ;BusType, MaxAmpLoad, MinVoltage BusTypes:0=MainBus,1=AvionicsBus,2=BatteryBus,3=HotBatteryBus,4-7=Generator/AlternatorBus(1-4)flap_motor = 0, 5 , 17.0gear_motor = 0, 5 , 17.0autopilot = 0, 5 , 17.0avionics_bus = 0, 5, 17.0avionics = 1, 5 , 17.0pitot_heat = 0, 2 , 17.0additional_system = 0, 2, 17.0marker_beacon = 1, 2 , 17.0gear_warning = 0, 2 , 17.0fuel_pump = 0, 5 , 17.0starter1 = 0, 20, 17.0light_nav = 0, 5 , 17.0light_beacon = 0, 5 , 17.0light_landing = 0, 5 , 17.0light_taxi = 0, 5 , 17.0light_strobe = 0, 5 , 17.0light_panel = 0, 5 , 17.0 //0 Class <0=none,1=wheel, 2=scrape, 3=float> //1 Longitudinal Position (feet) //2 Lateral Position (feet) //3 Vertical Position (feet) //4 Impact Damage Threshold (Feet Per Minute) //5 Brake Map (0=None, 1=Left, 2=Right) //6 Wheel Radius (feet) //7 Steer Angle (degrees) //8 Static Compression (feet) (0 if rigid) //9 Max/Static Compression Ratio //10 Damping Ratio (0=Undamped, 1=Critically Damped) //11 Extension Time (seconds) //12 Retraction Time (seconds) //13 Sound Type //14 Airspeed limit for retraction (KIAS) //15 Airspeed that gear gets damage at (KIAS)[contact_points]point.0=1, 34.00, 0.0000, -7.5500, 1181.1, 0, 1.095, 55.92, 0.10, 5.20, 1.63, 4.0, 5.0, 0, 220.0, 280.0point.1=1, -6.8470, -8.5800, -7.8500, 1574.8, 1, 1.650, 0.00, 0.60, 0.60, 0.95, 6.9, 7.9, 2, 220.0, 280.0point.2=1, -6.8470, 8.5800, -7.8500, 1574.8, 2, 1.650, 0.00, 0.60, 0.60, 0.95, 7.5, 7.1, 3, 220.0, 280.0//point.0=1, 40.00, 0.00, -7.65, 1181.1, 0, 1.336, 64.00, 0.7, 1.2, 0.90, 4.0, 5.0, 0, 220.0, 280.0//point.1=1, -6.8470, -8.58, -8.25, 1574.8, 1, 1.650, 0.00, 1.0, 1.0, 0.90, 6.9, 7.9, 2, 220.0, 280.0//point.2=1, -6.8470, 8.58, -8.25, 1574.8, 2, 1.650, 0.00, 1.0, 1.0, 0.90, 7.5, 7.1, 3, 220.0, 280.0point.3=2, -14.17, -47.33, 0.00, 787.4, 0, 0.000, 0.00, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 5, 0.0, 0.0point.4=2, -14.17, 47.33, 0.00, 787.4, 0, 0.000, 0.00, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 6, 0.0, 0.0point.5=2, -54.00, 0.00, 2.83, 787.4, 0, 0.000, 0.00, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 9, 0.0, 0.0point.6=2, 42.67, 0.00, -3.75, 787.4, 0, 0.000, 0.00, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 4, 0.0, 0.0max_number_of_points = 21//static_pitch=-0.10 //degrees, pitch when at rest on the ground (+=Up, -=Dn)//static_cg_height=6.8 //feet, altitude of CG when at rest on the groundgear_system_type=1 //Hydraulic static_pitch = -0.10static_cg_height = 7.8[Views]eyepoint=39.0, -1.31, 4.35 //(feet) longitudinal, lateral, vertical distance from reference datum[gear_warning_system]gear_warning_available = 1 //Normalpct_throttle_limit = 0.1 //Percent throttle that activates warningflap_limit_idle = 5.0 //Flap angle that activates warning at idleflap_limit_power = 25.5 //Flap angle that activates warning at above idle[brakes]parking_brake = 1 //Parking brake availabletoe_brakes_scale = 0.885 //Brake scalar[hydraulic_system]normal_pressure = 3000.0 //PSIelectric_pumps = 0 //no electric pumpsengine_map = 1,1,0,0 //pumps on Eng1,2//static_pitch=0.62 //degrees, pitch when at rest on the ground (+=Up, -=Dn)//static_cg_height=7.66 //feet, altitude of CG when at rest on the ground[flaps.0] //Trailing Edge Flaps (dumy - no visual - tune here)type=1 // 1 - tail, 2 - leadspan-outboard=0.8 //0.9 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time=15 // degreesflaps-position.1=1 // degreesflaps-position.2=2 // degreesflaps-position.3=5 // degreesflaps-position.4=10 // degreesflaps-position.5=15 // degreesflaps-position.6=25 // degreesflaps-position.7=30 // degreesflaps-position.8=40 // degreesdamaging-speed=250 // KIASblowout-speed=300 // KIASlift_scalar=1.0drag_scalar=1.0pitch_scalar=1.0system_type=1[flaps.1] //Trailing Edge Flaps (outboard - visual effect only)type=1 // 1 - tail, 2 - leadspan-outboard=0.8 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time=15 // secondsflaps-position.0=0 // degreesflaps-position.1=3 // degreesflaps-position.2=8 // degreesflaps-position.3=13 // degreesflaps-position.4=18 // degreesflaps-position.5=22 // degreesflaps-position.6=28 // degreesflaps-position.7=33 // degreesflaps-position.8=40 // degreesdamaging-speed=250 // KIASblowout-speed=300 // KIASlift_scalar=0.0drag_scalar=0.0pitch_scalar=0.0system_type=1 //Hydraulic[flaps.2] //Inboard Leading Edge Flapstype=2 // 1 - tail, 2 - leadspan-outboard=0.8 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time=3 // secondsflaps-position.0=0 // flaps-position.1=1.0 // damaging-speed=250 // KIASblowout-speed=300 // KIASlift_scalar=1.0drag_scalar=1.0pitch_scalar=1.0system_type=1 //Hydraulic[flaps.3] //Outboard Leading Edge Slattype=2 // 1 - tail, 2 - leadspan-outboard=0.8 // 0.0 .. 1.0extending-time=3 // secondsflaps-position.0=0 // flaps-position.1=0.5 // flaps-position.2=1.0 [Radios]// Radio Type = availiable, standby frequency, has glide slopeAudio.1 = 1Com.1 = 1, 1Com.2 = 1, 1Nav.1 = 1, 1, 1Nav.2 = 1, 1, 0Adf.1 = 1Transponder.1 = 1Marker.1 = 1[LIGHTS] //Types: 1=beacon, 2=strobe, 3=navigation, 4=cockpit, 5=landinglight.0 = 3, -18.011664, -47.3237064, 3.215184, fx_navred.fx ,light.1 = 3, -18.011664, 47.3237064, 3.215184, fx_navgre ,light.2 = 2, -58.4081656, 0.00, 7.4506968, fx_strobeh ,light.3 = 2, -17.3193432, -47.3695088, 3.1954992, fx_strobeh ,light.4 = 2, -17.3193432, 47.3695088, 3.1954992, fx_strobeh ,light.5 = 2, 7.00, 0.00, -4.10, fx_beaconb ,light.6 = 1, 4.1, 0.00, 9.9, fx_beaconh ,//light.7 = 4, 40.41, 0.00, 3.50, fx_vclighth ,light.8 = 3, -22.20, -46.97,3.175, fx_navwhilight.9 = 3, -22.20, 46.97,3.175, fx_navwhilight.10 =3, -58.4081656, 0.00, 7.4506968, fx_navwhi.fxlight.11 =5, 7.00, -7.50, -0.00, fx_shockwave_landing_light_narrow.fx , light.12 =5, 7.00, 7.50, -0.00, fx_shockwave_landing_light_narrow.fx , light.13 =6, 35.50, -0.50, -4.00, fx_shockwave_landing_light_narrow.fx , light.14 =6, 35.50, 0.50, -4.00, fx_shockwave_landing_light_narrow_down.fx , light.15 =5, -20.99, -46.50, 3.15, fx_shockwave_navyellow.fx , light.16 =5, -20.99, 46.50, 3.15, fx_shockwave_navyellow.fx , ///////////Types: 1=beacon, 2=strobe, 3=navigation, 4=cockpit, 5=landing[keyboard_response] //Breakpoint speeds (knots) on the keyboard increments of control surfaces.//Speed at which the incremenet is reduced to 1/2 and 1/8 respectively.elevator = 150, 250 aileron = 150, 250rudder = 150, 250[direction_indicators]//1 Type: 0=None, 1=Vacuum Gyro, 2=Electric Gyro, 3=Electro-Mag Slaved Compass, 4=Slaved to another//2 Indicator number of slaving indicator if Type = 4direction_indicator.0=3,0[attitude_indicators]//Type: 0=None, 1=Vacuum Gyro, 2=Electric Gyroattitude_indicator.0 = 1 [turn_indicators]//Type: 0=None, 1=Electric Gyro, 2= Vacuum Gyroturn_indicator.0=0,0[exits]number_of_exits = 2exit_rate.0 = 0.5 ;Percent per secondexit_rate.1 = 0.5 ;Percent per second[folding_wings]wing_fold_system_type=4 ;0=Nonefold_rates=0.12,0.11 [EFFECTS]wake=fx_wakewater=fx_spraydirt=fx_tchdrtconcrete=fx_sparkstouchdown=fx_tchdwn, 1[autopilot]autopilot_available=1flight_director_available=1default_vertical_speed=1000autothrottle_available=1autothrottle_arming_required=1autothrottle_max_rpm = 90autothrottle_takeoff_ga=1pitch_takeoff_ga = 15;use_no_default_pitch=1//max_pitch=10.0max_pitch_acceleration=1.0max_pitch_velocity_lo_alt=2.0max_pitch_velocity_hi_alt=1.5max_pitch_velocity_lo_alt_breakpoint=20000.0max_pitch_velocity_hi_alt_breakpoint=28000.0max_bank=25.0max_bank_acceleration=1.8max_bank_velocity=3.00max_throttle_rate=0.04nav_proportional_control=12.00nav_integrator_control=0.25nav_derivative_control=0.00nav_integrator_boundary=2.50nav_derivative_boundary=0.00gs_proportional_control=25.0gs_integrator_control=0.53gs_derivative_control=0.00gs_integrator_boundary=0.70gs_derivative_boundary=0.00yaw_damper_gain = 0.95default_pitch_mode=0max_pitch=10.000000[fuel]Center1 = 0, 0, 0, 2313, 0 //Longitudinal (feet), Lateral (feet), Vertical (feet), Usable(gallons), Unusable (gallons)LeftMain = -3, -19, 0, 1500, 0 //Longitudinal (feet), Lateral (feet), Vertical (feet), Usable(gallons), Unusable (gallons)RightMain = -3, 19, 0, 1500, 0 //Longitudinal (feet), Lateral (feet), Vertical (feet), Usable(gallons), Unusable (gallons)fuel_type = 2 //Fuel type: 1 = Avgas, 2 = JetAnumber_of_tank_selectors = 2 electric_pump=0[airplane_geometry]wing_area = 1137.0 //Square feetwing_span = 94.75 //Feetwing_root_chord = 18.0 //Feetwing_dihedral = 6.2 //Degreeswing_incidence = 1.0 //Degreeswing_twist = -0.5 //Degreesoswald_efficiency_factor= 0.75 //Measure of lift effeciency of wingwing_winglets_flag = 0 //Are winglets available?wing_sweep = 25.0 //Degrees, wing leading edgewing_pos_apex_lon = 8.0 //Feet, longitudinal distance from reference point, negative going aftwing_pos_apex_vert = 0.0 //Feet, vertical distance from reference point, positive going uphtail_area = 338.0 //Square feethtail_span = 41.7 //Feethtail_pos_lon = -35.0 //Feet, longitudinal distance from reference point, negative going afthtail_pos_vert = 0.0 //Feet, vertical distance from reference point, positive going uphtail_incidence = 0.0 //Degreeshtail_sweep = 30.0 //Degrees, horizontal tail leading edgevtail_area = 224.0 //Square feetvtail_span = 20.0 //Feet, tip to bodyvtail_sweep = 35.0 //Degrees, vertical tail leading edgevtail_pos_lon = -35.8 //Feet, longitudinal distance from reference point, negative going aftvtail_pos_vert = 5.8 //Feet, vertical distance from reference point, positive going upelevator_area = 70.5 //Square feetaileron_area = 26.9 //Square feetrudder_area = 56.2 //Square feetelevator_up_limit = 22.5 //Degreeselevator_down_limit = 19.5 //Degreesaileron_up_limit = 20.0 //Degrees //by50Naileron_down_limit = 20.0 //Degreesaileron_down_trim_limit = 20.0 //Degreesaileron_up_trim_limit = 20.0 //Degreesrudder_limit = 26.0 //Degreeselevator_trim_limit = 10.5 //Degreesspoiler_limit = 60.0 //Degreesspoilerons_available = 1 //Spoilerons Available?aileron_to_spoileron_gain = 3 //Aileron to spoileron gainmin_ailerons_for_spoilerons = 10 //Degreesmin_flaps_for_spoilerons = 0 //Minimum flap handle position when spoilerons activate[Reference Speeds]flaps_up_stall_speed = 142.0 //Knots True (KTAS)full_flaps_stall_speed = 115.0 //Knots True (KTAS)cruise_speed = 477.0 //Knots True (KTAS)max_mach = 0.82max_indicated_speed = 340 //Red line (KIAS)[forcefeedback]gear_bump_nose_magnitude=3000 ; 0 - 10000gear_bump_nose_direction=18000 ; 0 - 35999 degreesgear_bump_nose_duration=250000 ; in microsecondsgear_bump_left_magnitude=2700 ; 0 - 10000gear_bump_left_direction=35500 ; 0 - 35999 degreesgear_bump_left_duration=250000 ; in microsecondsgear_bump_right_magnitude=2700 ; 0 - 10000gear_bump_right_direction=00500 ; 0 - 35999 degreesgear_bump_right_duration=250000 ; in microsecondsground_bumps_magnitude1=1300 ; 0 - 10000ground_bumps_angle1=08900 ; 0 - 35999 degreesground_bumps_intercept1=3.0ground_bumps_slope1=0.20ground_bumps_magnitude2=200 ; 0 - 10000ground_bumps_angle2=09100 ; 0 - 35999 degreesground_bumps_intercept2=1.075ground_bumps_slope2=0.035crash_magnitude1=10000 ; 0 - 10000crash_direction1=01000 ; 0 - 35999 degreescrash_magnitude2=10000 ; 0 - 10000crash_direction2=9000 ; 0 - 35999 degreescrash_period2=75000 ; in microsecondscrash_duration2=2500000 ; in microseconds[stall_warning]type=2---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Hope this helps.
March 23, 201016 yr Far easier to just replace the model with the 50N one and edit the lights and contact points.I've done this on all my merges and all work great.I've never been a great fan of the aliasing. If it was really that easy there wouldn't be 500 posts on how to merge this with that. Clarke Kruger - CYEG
March 23, 201016 yr Author Hi,Both thanks for your answer. I'll try both options. Location: Vleuten, The Netherlands, 17.3dme SPL 108.40 | Simulator: FS2024 System: AMD 7800X3D - Gigabyte X670 - RTX 4090 - 64GB DDR5 - 2 x 2TB SSD - 32" 1440p Display - Windows 11 Pro
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