why are you guys wasting all this time and money on the gtx 480 and TH2GO whereas 1 5870 for eyefinity 6 will do just fine? I find it quite weird really, now that the vsync problem is solved for ATI, if your goal is multi screen, you shouldn't even be thinking about what to use.2 x GTX480 = $1,200 (with tax and shipping) + TH2GO = $1,5005870 (the new eyefinity 6 with DPs) = $499.From what I'm reading, it beats the heck out of TH2GO, that solution is way out dated and old. I may understand it if you bought it 2-3 years back and want to stick with it, but I'd cut my losses and not waste money on a 480, not the mention 2 of them.You shouldn't have to spend that much money just to use 3 monitors. In addition, I heard multi GPUs were no-no for FSX?

I have a 5870 eyefinity(and a 5970 before that), the visual quality and performance are not up to my liking, I am actually selling it right now on ebay. The Eyefinity works as advertised, which is great, but for my eyes it was not a good card for FSX, no supersampling AA, drops frames in clouds and with heavy autogen.I am very picky when it comes to visual quality and fluidity, so I have chosen to go the nvidia route with all the expense and hassle that entails.BTW, For eyefinity 5870 you only have to get one adaptor, it comes with 2 DP-->DVI adaptors. I actually think it's a great card, but again just not for my specific purposes.

BTW, For eyefinity 5870 you only have to get one adaptor, it comes with 2 DP-->DVI adaptors. I actually think it's a great card, but again just not for my specific purposes.

Didn't know that. Makes a big difference re: cost. But I agree with you - I'd rather have some upfront pain if performance is better.On the other hand, if performance improves on the 5870 I'd be happy to consider it. No religious wars here...Best,Alan

I have a 5870 eyefinity(and a 5970 before that), the visual quality and performance are not up to my liking, I am actually selling it right now on ebay. The Eyefinity works as advertised, which is great, but for my eyes it was not a good card for FSX, no supersampling AA, drops frames in clouds and with heavy autogen.I am very picky when it comes to visual quality and fluidity, so I have chosen to go the nvidia route with all the expense and hassle that entails.BTW, For eyefinity 5870 you only have to get one adaptor, it comes with 2 DP-->DVI adaptors. I actually think it's a great card, but again just not for my specific purposes.

I really don't understand what you mean by visual quality and fluidity. Have you actually tried the vsync fix for the ATI card? Have you tried with 3 views? You should have no problem with full AA on 3 monitors at 5760 x 1080 resolution for the 5870. If you have the PC in your signature, that may explain the source of your problems. First of all, the 965 is rather old, I know you probably want to smash your keyboard to my face now given that it was a $1,000 extreme CPU a few months back, but for that price, if you tried the 980X running around 4.6-4.7 Ghz watercooled coupled with very high speed 12 GB RAM, you'd see a huge difference. In addition, I'd highly suggest you drop the 10 year old XP and move on to windows 7. I'm not sure how you are even using windows XP on eyefinity.Compared to TH2GO, with 1 video card (480 GTX with TH2GO vs 1 5870), eyefinity is far far better in terms of performance and quality, if you know what you are doing with the right system. Just because you don't have the right configuration, doesn't mean eyefinity isn't good, it also definitely doesn't mean you will get what you are looking for.From what everyone is saying and the reviews I have been seeing, the whole fermi/480 GTX deal looks like NVIDIA, for the first time in about 10 years, did something wrong, and ATI is a step ahead. Considering they released the card in september of 2009, more than 6 months later, what nvidia came up with has loads of issues, not to mention it's on par with the 5870 in terms of performance but requires a lot of juice.I have hated ATI/AMD, and I haven't had an ATI card in X200 about 8 years ago, but I will give it to them this time. They are doing a great job.

Do you have that Eyefinity6 yourself?How's your experience with it?How many and what kind of adapters do you use (active/non active)?

@ MyatanThe 5870 and 5970 cards were running on the 965 with Win 7(as we all know eyefinity doesn't work in WinXP) at 5040x1050. When I refer to visual quality I mean the ATI card drops to a slideshow with Supersampling Antialiasing, it simply cannot run it without some sort or driver or software update. It also dropped frames like crazy with dense autogen and dense cloud cover. I like high settings, really high and the ATI card could not deliver the visual quality I wanted. And yes the Vsync fix worked fine for me, screen tearing was not that big of an issue, I wanted more framerates. The REX weather engine is a cruel mistress.It's really not practical for me to go out and get another 1000 dollar processor since I already have one, these are the perils of the early adopter, but so be it. Triplehead 2 go ran absolutely fantastically with high framerates and anti-aliasing on a 285 GTX on the same 965 setup with Win XP. Why did I change? I ask myself that same question...FWIW WinXP has been the best OS for me for FSX only computers(I have tried them all).

@ MyatanFWIW WinXP has been the best OS for me for FSX only computers(I have tried them all).

I don't know how this is the case, usually it's the other way around. It's just strange what you are saying that's all, 5870 usually performs better than GTX 480. It just strikes me crazy as to how you believe eyefinity will underperform compared to a-) NVIDIA b-) TH2GO. Including a website like hardcop, everywhere I read, ATI outperformed NVIDIA in any way possible, ESPECIALLY multi monitor support.Not to mention:http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/...technology.aspxCan you imagine flying over LAX using that? Can you do that with your 480? Come on now:)You have to be doing something wrong, 5040 x 1050 is not even that hard, people are getting smooth experience from 6 x 24" monitors, do you not agree?Here, one of many videos out there whereby eyefinity with much higher resolution performs very well with the highest settings possible using GEX and REX:

How do you think that's possible?

I know how to set up eyefinity and triple head to go and have done so on several computers. That's not the issue, the issue is I can't put autogen and clouds sliders up as high as I want without dropping frames bigtime.I can't use supersampling aliasing(what type do you use?), I had to use adaptive multisampling, check out the wing views as the plane self-shadowing, the shadow is serrated. I mean it's acceptable, but not ideal.I really don't care what other people's videos look like, I only want my performance to be to a certain degree.Also FSX was written in the time of XP, I have always gotten the best out of FSX with XP. I don't see any advantage to moving up to a later version of windows EXCEPT to take advantage of something like Eyefinity.If you are satisfied with your results from the 5870 then more power to you, I am not, I made a good faith effort buy buying both the 5970 and the 5870 2GB and did not like what I was seeing on my screen.Right now my triplehead setup is not even on, I am waiting for the nvidia drivers that will allow me to use 3D vision surround.

I think that the solution is simplier then you think Myatan. FSX, since born, is an Nvidia aware software and only because of the different ways that Nvidia and ATI chose long time ago to use the steam processors. FSX LIKES Nvidia minor number but larger steam processors against many and smaller of ATI. Benchmarks tell that new EYEFINITY are good and faster then Fermi, right, but they don't take into account FSX. This IS NOT A GAME, this is a simulator and even in many areas bad developed. Simply this software likes what NVIDIA cards offer more then ATI. There's no real problem with it. If you want a good all around system you can go with EYEFINITY and you won't be disappointed with FSX too, but if you want the EXTREME fps and fluidity for the simulator then you'll have to choice GTX470/480. As now as that's all.I used try many different cards out since 2002 and what I can tell you is that even when ATI beat by generic FPS benchmarks Nvidia cards, the latter video quality and smoothness' with microsoft flight simulator products has been always better. And that's why 80% of simmers still use and will use Nvidia. Until ATI won't come with something more customized to meet our hobby needs.

I think that the solution is simplier then you think Myatan. FSX, since born, is an Nvidia aware software and only because of the different ways that Nvidia and ATI chose long time ago to use the steam processors. FSX LIKES Nvidia minor number but larger steam processors against many and smaller of ATI. Benchmarks tell that new EYEFINITY are good and faster then Fermi, right, but they don't take into account FSX. This IS NOT A GAME, this is a simulator and even in many areas bad developed. Simply this software likes what NVIDIA cards offer more then ATI. There's no real problem with it. If you want a good all around system you can go with EYEFINITY and you won't be disappointed with FSX too, but if you want the EXTREME fps and fluidity for the simulator then you'll have to choice GTX470/480. As now as that's all.I used try many different cards out since 2002 and what I can tell you is that even when ATI beat by generic FPS benchmarks Nvidia cards, the latter video quality and smoothness' with microsoft flight simulator products has been always better. And that's why 80% of simmers still use and will use Nvidia. Until ATI won't come with something more customized to meet our hobby needs.

The problem is, there is no way to have 6 displays with Nvidia or is there?

I can't see how having six displays on a single FSX machine might be useful. Stretched view over six windows doesen't give the right proportions and depth of field. The best solution is still having a TH2GO off an Nvidia output and maybe a second one off the second if you need extra monitors (Or install a second video card, thing I would prefere). Perfomance will be quite better then ATI in FSX anyway.

How can you say it will make no difference, I am not talking about one row, I am talking about two rows, 3 x 2. It looks phenomenal to me and truly gives you a realistic virtual cockpit feeling.So you are saying run 2 x TH2GO and 2 x 480 GTX? First of all I thought you couldn't run multiple video cards with FSX (maybe I was wrong), but second of all, do you realize how much money you will have to spend for that? $300 x 2 + $500 x 2 = $1,600 vs $400 (ATI)? Are you crazy? You could buy the extreme octa core i7 980X and the most expensive intel SSD for that and use eyefinity, the performance benefit of using that type of hardware over Fermi would be far more beneficial, don't you think?I can see how the cliche TH2GO/Nvidia pattern got stuck in people's heads all this time, and I'll give you that, ATI haven't been doing a good job, but things have changed. You shouldn't be paying hundreds of dollars of extra just to have extra views. That's plain ridiculous to me.You can just use the keywords "eyefinity vs triplehead2go" in google, and every single review/forum thread/article/post will tell you something similar:http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum...373&start=0TH2GO is old, expensive, there is no future for it, it's not upgradable, and it's not even sufficient (come on with the 57Hz monitors and 5040 x 1050 resolution limitation, if I am going to have 3 monitor configuration, I want to have 1900 x 1200 x 3, not the old 1680 ones).