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You Can Have Your Cake and Eat it - Part II

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Hello again,As reported last night, I managed to get FS9 running on my system with some degree of consistency. The following posts will outline what it was I did to help me find my systems "sweet spot" and run in the area of 20FPS which is where I have it locked. I've broken the reading down into 7 parts to make it easier to read and to refer to if only one section appeals to you.DISCLAIMER - This has to be said on the front end before you go on reading.First and foremost, this thread would probably apply more to people who own an ATI video card but, there should be similarities between what I did and what you can do with a non-ATI card.No two systems are the same so what worked for me may not necessarily work perfectly for you and your system so don't expect this post to be the be all end all fix for FS9. It's really all about trial and error! Another thing I MUST convey is that FS9 is about acceptance and choices. You MUST accept that you WILL have "times" when your frame rates will drop into and around the less than 10 and high teens area. I say times because my experience now is it happens less frequently than more. The choices part is all about NOT having your sliders all to the right (maxed out) just for the sake of being able to say "I run FS9 with all my sliders MAXED and get xx FPS". If you want smooth "game play" you must choose which sliders are going to get moved out of the coveted right side. If you're one of the lucky ones whose system can run FS9 at a constant 25 - 40 FPS then this thread is not for you and you should be flying and enjoying FS9 rather than reading another how-to post:-) Personally, I think a patch should be released to address some of the performance issues but, I

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Processes & Windows ServicesOne of the first things I did was to hit Ctrl-Alt-Del to open the Windows Task manager and under the Processes tab I noted down ALL the items in the list on a piece of paper. When I had everything noted I went to Google and did a search for each one of those items to see what they were and if they were essential to have running. By taking the time to research these items, I was able to cut down the number of processes running on my system from 38 to 19. Now, some processes are accessible from MSCONFIG and some others were

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Seems like every 5 minutes somewhere in the world a new set of drivers for a video card is being released :-) Some drivers are good and others make you wonder what the driver team was thinking when they released them!! The following link has probably one of the BEST tips I read for un-installing and installing new drivers. This is geared towards ATI owners but I

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There are some great tips on what to adjust in your FS9.cfg file right here at the top of the forum so I won

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After spending the better part of my day composing, formatting and re-testing FS9 for this document; If only 1 person benefits from this, it was WELL worth my while!! At the end of my tweaking last night I had one last thing to do and the following screen shot shows how confident I am that I

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>ATI Radeon 9700TXYes. I've found someone with a 9700TX and maybe I can now rule out my problem. I seem to be the only one with this peculiar livery problem. I've spoken to various people with no solution. When I install a livery everything shows up fine in FS - both FS2002 and FS9. Problem is when I get the plane up the gear will not retract. I need to then completely reinstall that aircraft config to get it back to normal - simply removing the new entries doesn't help. I take it you are not having this problem with your TX? I'm trying to rule out what may be the source of the problem. I'm using Catalyst 3.2 because the latest Omega driver (based on the 3.6) and the 3.6 itself caused various display problems such as the VC of PMDG 737 missing gauges and having holes in the panel.P4 2.8 ghz 533 FSB, 1 gig DDR ram, 9700TX 128 mb Radeon, 200 gig drive (Dell 4550 series).

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WOW - I've never seen that befor!! Can you tell me which aircraft you're having this problem with. I've got pretty much all the main stream freeware aircraft loaded and I've never experienced this problem. I can't see how the video card could affect your landing gear but hey - anythings possible I guess :-)Mikehttp://www.members.shaw.ca/madamo/boeingsig.jpg

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>TERRAIN_DEFAULT_RADIUS=8.500000>TERRAIN_EXTENDED_RADIUS=5.500000>TERRAIN_EXTENDED_LEVELS=4 :) Cheers for all the work!!

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Well done for this post - I now have the best EVER flight sim experience! My spec is similar to yours (P4 3Ghz, 512mb, Ti4400) so I followed every setting in your post. Just 2 little changes I made for my PC.Result is an amazingly clear and detailed view out the window. FPS stay at 20, only dipping when several layers of clouds are visible. Damm nightime view is so real its scary!Any doubts I had about FS2004 have evaporated after this post - the visuals are a masterpiece!Damm good post! Ray Keattch.

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Hi Cargomun,>TERRAIN_EXTENDED_LEVELS=4 <--I borrowed that from my FS2002.cfg file. I can't find the printout I made of that tweak from way back when but I seem to remember that the vaule of 4 gave crisper looking ground textures. I'll dig up the original post and confirm that. You can try both values and see which one gives you better detail.Thanks for the kind words!!!Mikehttp://www.members.shaw.ca/madamo/boeingsig.jpg

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Very good post, but I can't help but wonder how much of your success hinges on FSUIPC and applying additional visibility limits due to weather conditions.If FSUIPC can dynamically change visibility to free up some frames for clouds, then it might just be the best 20 bucks a person can spend on this game....And my previous objections to him going payware would vaporize....Just a thought.

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Thanks!FSUIPC does have an impact on frames if you set-up customized weather but, from what I've been seeing, as soon as I load in weather from the Internet, it seems to by-pass FSUIPC and over-rides my vis settings. I'm still testing this out but, as of last night, I had my vis set to 10nm in clear, cloud, overcast and raining and the MS downloaded weather overrode or just didn't pick-up on the FSUIPC settings.Next stop is Pete's support forum!Mikehttp://www.members.shaw.ca/madamo/boeingsig.jpg

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Thats touching a subject I've heard someone mention before. That the FS2004 version of FSUIPC and its weather tweaks doesnt apply to the build in weather from the sim i.e. downloaded or manually created.Apparently it only works on addon weather such as Activesky and such.Surface wind set at 1 in FSUIPC and such wouldnt work either - wich in effect killed off my use of the program in one short stroke lol :D

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Mike,Thank you very much for all your hard work on this subject. I really appreciate it and will certainly try most of your advice.Howard

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Mike,Used your suggestions, and my sim is flying great. Still get a little low on frames when in a high traffic area, with download wx, and the Grabowski ERJ panel, but it's still flyable and the sim looks fantastic. Very happy, probably the best post about FS2004 yet!!

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Thanks you for the great tips and your time, Mike.I tried them.But with my GeForce2 card, I cannot get more than 3 to 5 FPS with broken clouds 5/8, although the system is a P4 3.06Ghz and 1MB Ram.Also tried several drivers, but performance does not improve.Anything else to be done (besides getting a new card), or is there still hope to find some tweak for the graphics card, or in the cfg files, or elsewehere?Any comments?MarceloSantiago, Chile Posted on Friday Aug.08, 3:40pm EDT

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Regards startup menu items and turning them(or those you don't need ) off, have a look at this site ---http://www.pacs-portal.co.ukThere you either view or download an alphabetical list of all items that may appear in your startup menu.It include details of many undesirable bits and pieces you may pick up unknowingly on the internet(Spyware etc) as well as details of all the "essential" processes that your PC needs to run properly.One word of warning -the full list is more than 110 A4 pages when printed off(if you want a permanent handbook for this).Each item listed is categorised as "Normally required for Startup","Not required-can be started manually","Users Choice, and"Definateley not required"(this last one includes Viruses,adware etc).The list on the website is regularly updated.Dave

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Hi Marcelo,I have a much less powerful CPU than you but similar RAM and graphics card and my frame rates are not down that low.If you would like to compare notes please send me a private msg.Cheers

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Youre not alone my friend, unlike FS2002, FS2004 is "seemingly" video card friendly much more so than processor hungry. Sooooooo... I have a GeForce3 and 2.27Ghz P4 and I'm not getting much better than you are... 6-12 fps, but i managed to overclock the ol video card to the max and im getting 8-16 in major populated areas. In the boonies I'm getting a solid 20 locked at 20 though, and waiting for smoke to come bellowing out the side of this wrig lol

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I went from a gForce3 to a FX5600 golden limited and saw great improvement. What I've come to conclude is visuals weigh heavy on your video card and AI load down your CPU. Turn off all your sliders and run a test of frames while nothing on in scattered skies. Then max out AI and see how hard your CPU works and reduces frames. Turn off AI and max out the eye candy. After that you can get an idea of which is bogging down your frames more. IS your video card weak or do you feel that its your CPU. If its your CPU then keep AI low and find your happy spot with the eye candy and vis-versa. For me I have a P4 2gig and found that I can run the eye candy higher than mid but keep the AI just over mid since my video card has more power than my CPU when it comes to workload. Im sure this has all been flogged to death prior but feel that if one keeps in mind that CPU and video cards do there own thing and help out after that you kind of want to get an idea of which is pulling there weight and helping out where your frames loss is happening by turning down the sliders that is the true cause.NP

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