MartyThe easiest for 26 would be LOC OEV and straight-in even if you approached from the west it would be easier to go to RTT and use OEV.If you wanted to use OEJ from KTI, I would suggest gear down, flap20 or flap25 for descent and then at AB right turn at least 25° of bank to intercept finals for 26 or downwind, right-hand 08 and at the end of downwind select flap30 for min turn radius.You can see from the charts that at higher weights (and speeds) you wouldn't make the turn radius. (Quoted..159kt,25° bank,0.9nm)Colin B

So, what are the normal vectors for arrivals from the West landing on the 26? .. would they normally get vectors ..like from KTI 13000, fly the OEJ LOC East, RTT for a procedure turn and then return for the landing?

Nope, you fly the LLZ/DME West Approach, see the charts. Here's my 737 explanation but much the same!You want to arrive at KTI at 11500 feet (remember to set QNH) and probably no more than 180 knots. That's a lot of slowing down to do before you get there.From KTI fly heading 104 until intercepting OEJ localiser (109.70) . You can start the descent to 5000 feet once passing OEJ 24.3 DME. Reduce speed to 160 and get the gear down now. Check your altitude for each checkpoint on the chart. Try about 1000 fpm.Once you pass OEJ 6.5 DME you want to be level at 5000 feet. You need to now be visual, if not visual by the time you reach AB ndb, you initiate the missed approach.From here on the procedure is all visual.So if you can see the ground, continue to AB ndb and on passing overhead, turn right to about 280 degrees and then track the centreline once you fly through it, continue to land. Descend, reduce speed etc and get full flaps out if you haven't done so already.Landing on runway 08 of course requires more turning, but see the visual approach chart which details both, including what I've described above.

Right,But my first post was .. No OEJ LOC (109.70) in FS9.1!So I could not fly it.Ok, I added the lat/lon etc per TheBFG's instructions. Worked great.Now I have a little "modified stock" airport, LOWI.Now I can test all the possible approaches this afternoon in the Mooney Bravo.Then I will refer to the nots in these posts and see if I can become proficient in the feelthere EMBv2.Then larger jets later ..

also,if you attempt the procedure from KTI(LOC DME east) the aimingpoint should be AB ndb(Absam),not RTT ndb(Rattenberg),RTT is only used in the missed approach procedure in that one.

I said if using OEV, and the charts show the IAF as RTT to use LOC/DME to AB then visual, which is the obvious choice if runway 26 is in use, avoiding unnecessary tight turns in the approach area.You are getting mixed up with OEJ (LOC/DME WEST) , where the IAF is KTI descent to AB then visual.Colin B

Right, But my first post was .. No OEJ LOC (109.70) in FS9.1! So I could not fly it.

Yes vonmar but you then said

BTY, The green feathers were in the AFCAD program display .. I was not zoomed out far enough.

Actually in real life the approach is flown with flaps 30, gear down right from the IAF (KTI or RTT D18.2). You need to keep the speeds very low to make those turns, and the descent path. Remember turn radius is defined by speed, not weight of the aircraft. When turning onto final approach for 08, you they do go through the centreline quite a bit and turn past the runway to correct it, dumping full flaps if necessary at this stage.And believe it or not, 767s do land at Innsbruck courtesy of Austrian Air and Lauda Air :)

Do they limit their landing weight quite a bit? Of course turn radius is defined by speed, but the higher the weight, the higher the speed, (Vref30). And I should think they prefer 26 using LOC/DME East (OEV). It must be very tight downwind, righthand, 08. It used to be tight in a Viscount all those years ago.Colin B

TheBFG,Nothing wasted .. I just had a problem and it got fixed .. thanks to all of you guys!What generated the initial post here was because the default LOWI in FS9.1 had no OEJ (109.7).I did not see feathers in FS also at that time.Also, dialing 109.7 failed to pick up the LOC.I never zoomed in or out at that time.I used the AFCAD program to verify not LOC for RWY 8.I never zoomed in or out at that time either.Later I downloaded a BGL to correct it.Checked with the AFCAD program .. no feathers ... so I assumed it did not work.If I had zoomed out, way out, I would have seen the downloaded BGL was in fact OK.I did a previous screenshot to show others what to look for ..The airport and both ILS's are not what is normally expected .. missing the runway symbol as well!So, all the downloads on AVSIM are OK.

Do they limit their landing weight quite a bit? Of course turn radius is defined by speed, but the higher the weight, the higher the speed, (Vref30). And I should think they prefer 26 using LOC/DME East (OEV). It must be very tight downwind, righthand, 08. It used to be tight in a Viscount all those years ago. Colin B

Landing weight is limited to speed but I don't think this is really a massive problem as loads for this trip obviously need to meet climb performance criteria for takeoff. Runway 08 is used often though, Transavia 737-800s can be seen making that turn onto 08 more often than you think :)

Wow - lots of information to sort through and absorb but thanks to all of you for taking the time to contribute. It's this kind of thing that helps make the FS community so unique!I have to say I was amazed to hear that 767's land at LOWI. Now that would be something to watch!!! So far the biggest A/C I've used there is Milton Shupe's excellent Dash-7 in Tyrolean colors and even that is still a bit of a challenge. When my new computer is up and running and Approaching Innsbruck won't be a slide show with more complex aircraft, I will look forward to seeing if I can get the Level-D 767 in and out of there. I LOVE THIS HOBBY! :(

"Do you fly the LOC 8 approach, turn to visual for landing in the Level-D?"Hey MartyI don't think it would be allowed in RW because of turn diameter. In LDS, at Flap 20,diam is about 1.9 nm so you need at least Flap 25 ( pref 30) turning off the end of downwind leg for runway 08. You will probably just go through the extended centre-line unless you plough a furrow with your left wing-tip in the hills on the downwind leg! :biggrin:Runway 26 visual turns are much easier with gear down and at least flap 20.If you're going to try it in the 767, keep the weight right down at first until you get used to it.Never had these turn problems going in and out of there in the late '60s in the old Viscount 700 without any navaids except the Mk1 eyeball. :smile:Colin B

I hear you on that one Colin. Never flew the Viscount as it was being phased out as my career was getting started but have done some interesting approaches in HS748 into mountain-surrounded airfields in the South Island of New Zealand. Let down on an NDB in an open area and then IFR (I Follow Rivers) using Mk1 eyeball to Queenstown or Mount Cook and hoping nobody else is coming the opposite way using the same river gorge. :(

Kiwiflyer45 wrote"I hear you on that one Colin. Never flew the Viscount as it was being phased out as my career was getting started"You must be just a kid then. Colin B

Kiwiflyer45 wrote"I hear you on that one Colin. Never flew the Viscount as it was being phased out as my career was getting started"You must be just a kid then. Colin B

I wish my friend - I wish! :(

To all you Innsbruck fans, I would highly recommend the new Aerosoft scenery. Brings Innsbruck to life!I have been virtually flying in to LOWI for 15 years, and am still visiting (it is my home base) weekly in my Leonardo Maddog (fits in nicely).