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Is help on the way for Nvidia 5900 Ultra versus Radeon 9800 Pro

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I think so......Rel. 50 is the best driver we've ever built - it includes significant optimizations for the highly-programmable GeForce FX architecture and includes feature and performance benefits for over 100 million NVIDIA GPU customers.......Our goal is to provide our consumers the best experience possible, and that means games must both look and run great......The optimal code path for ATI and NVIDIA GPUs is different - so trying to test them with the same code path will always disadvantage one or the other. The default settings for each game have been chosen by both the developers and NVIDIA in order to produce the best results for our consumers...What do you think?Tim

Agreed, and the artificial limmiting of Anisotropic Filtering in order to boost frame rates won't win any friends with image quality-obsessed simmers, either.At this moment, ATi is the way to go - and I say that as the owner of a GF FX5600 card.Allcott

personally I don't think it's gonna be all they say it will.ATI is still holding the crown.100 million GPU's huh....Not to much of an overexaggeration huh?Bobby

the Fx line is dead in the water regardless of whatever driver Nvidia throws at it. Unfortunately i own one of these half baked cards.Ill gladly eat my words if the 50 dets works as how the marketing department says it will.. but imho...the tech department doesnt think so.

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I'm sure we've all seen screenshots that compare ATI to Nvidia and talk about x having better image quality than x, and you can't really tell the difference without really squinting hard. Well, I've seen screenshots from people who were running the 5x series detonators, and I can truly say that no squinting is required. The image quality was just plain bad. Really bad.At the risk of sounding like a broken record, we'll all know the truth when the driver releases. Still, I don't have much confidence. There's no doubt but that Nvidia made some choices in hardware design that put them at a disadvantage for DX9 games. I don't currently play any DX9 games, so I don't care. Who knows what I'll think when HL2 releases. :)Jim

Actually it affects everyone who runs ACOF as it uses DX9 if I'm not mistaken.Feel real bad for those that bought an FX for the upcoming Doom3 and HL. ;(Bobby

FS9 is a DX8.1 game, not DX9.Doom III runs better on Nvidia than on ATI.Jim

Jim,If it's a DX8 game than why does DX9 have to be installed before you can play it. Is it just the visuals that use DX8 Coding?. I'm a hardware geek not software.Bobby

>Jim,>>If it's a DX8 game than why does DX9 have to be installed>before you can play it. Is it just the visuals that use DX8>Coding?. I'm a hardware geek not software.>>BobbyGame code is DX7/8. DX9 is for multiplayer etc.Thats why you do not need a DX9 video card to have all the visuals (DX8 video card required).

hiiI ma using GF 5600 ULTRA, having low frame rates although I use Nvidia driver 45.23 and most of the display sliders at medium level except the wheather ..Can you give any idea to increase frame rates ??Thanks alotHasan

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