Will PMDG enable me to buy and install the FSX 737?

[Guest Moonraker]

FSX is installed on my best and fastest computer. As I did not want to get into internet-related security-problems with it, it is also the computer, which is NOT connected to the internet. My internet-PC stands twenty centimeters left of my FSX-computer. Yet I could not buy the PMDG MD-11 via internet-download as PMDG chose not to program a software for its shop which enables the user to transfer the licence from an internet-connected PC to a non-internet-connected PC (other software companies have done this for years now). So...will I be able to actually buy the FSX-737 when it is released or will PMDG again prevent customers like me from buying it? As far as I have seen on the Aerosoft-website, nowadays EVEN the boxed PMDG-products like the Jetstream 4100 need an ACTIVE internet-connection on the VERY PC on which the add-on will be used??? :( :( Richard Ebach

[Antonyk 0]

maybe there be a box ver. you could always hook ur computer up download an disconnect

[Tabs 2,790]

Richard,1. No, the NGX will require an Internet connection on the machine to install just like all our other products. (that includes the boxed version)2. 99% of security online is just being smart about things. Don't run email attachments that look suspicious, make sure you have a good anti-malware program (Microsoft makes a very good free one here - http://www.microsoft...ity_essentials/ ), and make sure you install Windows Updates and patches to software like Adobe Flash, your browser, etc regularly. I can't imagine not having internet on my FS PC - I use it while flying all the time for weather, charts, etc, not to mention actually flying online. There's really nothing to be worried about if you do those things I mentioned - you're not going to get infected with malware just from having an internet connection on the PC - it doesn't work like that.

[Guest wims]

Actually, you could in fact get infected by just being online, it has happened to me once. I got a worm while downloading the security updates to XP way back in the days. I dont think its quite as common these days tho, especially if you have modern os installed and download the updates right away, then getting antivirus.

[Tabs 2,790]

Actually, you could in fact get infected by just being online, it has happened to me once. I got a worm while downloading the security updates to XP way back in the days. I dont think its quite as common these days tho, especially if you have modern os installed and download the updates right away, then getting antivirus.

That was a very specific thing with unpatched versions of XP - there's nothing at all like that for XP SP2+ or Vista/7. It won't ever happen regardless if you have something like MSSE installed anyway.

[Guest Moonraker]

Richard,1. No, the NGX will require an Internet connection on the machine to install just like all our other products. (that includes the boxed version)

O.K. Many thanks for the information though I really don´t know WHY you do it this way. All your other products? Well, I have your 747 and MD-11 boxed and they did NOT require an internet connection on the game-PC. For me it´s not ONLY a safety issue but I do like to separate my everyday-video editing-and-online-PC-work from my "game" high end machine, so that I can keep it "clean" and fast without even having to use an antivirus-program or having to defragment it regularly...seems I will have to use my MD-11 or 767 for short-haul flights in the foreseeable future... :( Richard

[pete_auau 1,152]

Hi so how do u update ur planes to sp etc if ur not connected to the net and any other updates in fact?

[Guest Moonraker]

Hi so how do u update ur planes to sp etc if ur not connected to the net and any other updates in fact?

That´s easy: via the net! That´s easy because "I" am connected to the net - just not my second "FSX"-PC! So I can update everything: Windows 7, Word, Excel and ALL other programs. It´s also no problem to install virtually every other payware FSX-aircraft, scenery and generally ALL other programs. All companies allow to transfer the licence-file from the internet-PC to the non-internet-PC...well, all, with ONE LONESOME exception - and that´s PMDG (unfortunately)... :( Richard

[El padrino 2]

O.K. Many thanks for the information though I really don´t know WHY you do it this way. All your other products? Well, I have your 747 and MD-11 boxed and they did NOT require an internet connection on the game-PC. For me it´s not ONLY a safety issue but I do like to separate my everyday-video editing-and-online-PC-work from my "game" high end machine, so that I can keep it "clean" and fast without even having to use an antivirus-program or having to defragment it regularly...seems I will have to use my MD-11 or 767 for short-haul flights in the foreseeable future... :( Richard

You can always connect briefly just for product activation. I don't really think that connecting for say 5 mins will get you into any trouble. As regards antivirus programs I agree that they can be pretty heavy, however you can also opt to deactivate them before you load FS. At least mine has a "game option" that pretty much idles the software so it doesn't need system resources and doesn't block real time weather loading (I use Active Sky Advanced)...Of course it's your call, but I think that the risk of getting infected after using the net just for activating PMDG planes is so low that it really does not worth not being able to enjoy some of the best add-ons ever created for FS.

[Sawydz 4]

C'mon Richard, there're tons of programs that require direct access to internet to be activated, PMDG is not some lonesome exception.

[Guest Moonraker]

You can always connect briefly just for product activation. I don't really think that connecting for say 5 mins will get you into any trouble.

I´m quite confident that 5 minutes internet would not get me into any virus-troubles BUT the problem with your solution is that I would have to take my Network connection card out of PC 1 and install it into PC2, which would require me to transport both PC´s into another room (I don´t have enough space at the place where both stand to open them there and change the cards). After installation I would have to do the same thing again to change them back. Plus I don´t like to fiddle inside my computers (I´m no tech-freak).Solution B would be to de-activate network-card A with my internet-provider and activate network-card B there. Afterwards the same vice-versa. If you knew my internet-provider you would agree with me that this is not a very good solution. :( However I DO HAVE a backup of my complete FSX-PC-system on an external harddisk. I wonder if it would be possible to activate it over this external harddisk when connected to my internet-PC or if this simply would not work or even be against PMDG´s protection-intentions??????? I have no idea how their internet-shop and activation system works...

C'mon Richard, there're tons of programs that require direct access to internet to be activated, PMDG is not some lonesome exception.

Well, maybe I should have said that all programs I KNOW of or that I use do NOT need any direct internet-access (and I even bought a train plus a subway-simulator recently)! :( Richard

[Sawydz 4]

Last, maybe a little stupid solution from me: buy cheapest router, it should be around 15$

[Barthandelus 1]

3 solutions - 1. Buy a second NIC (only a few pounds) for your non-internet computer. 2. Plug a network cable in, activate it, pull the cable out, job done. 2 minute job, and you are set. 3. Dont buy the plane.Seriously, though if you a behind a router / hardware firewall that NAT's your IP address (simple explanation HERE, then nothing nasty can get in from the internet. The only thing you would have to worry about is software (being cracked programs, keygens, viruses, whatever) talking out so the firewall would let the reply 'packet' back in.For the sake of a few pounds, just get a network card... Even a USB one if you are that worried about it. And yes, restoring a backup to a different will break PMDG, and also windows activation. Im assuming all your software is clean and legit, so you will not have a problem.Unfortunately, due to cheap people pirating software, developers have to protect their software as we all know, and this is fair. So if someone doesnt like the fact that they have to plug a cable in, then it wouldnt be fair to assume that PMDG are gonna change the activation policy just for that. Refer to point 3 above! :-)I am not trying to sound sarcastic or harsh in any way at all - just trying to get a point across, and also reassure you that its not gonna hurt your computer. :-)

[Byrna 0]

I´m quite confident that 5 minutes internet would not get me into any virus-troubles BUT the problem with your solution is that I would have to take my Network connection card out of PC 1 and install it into PC2, which would require me to transport both PC´s into another room (I don´t have enough space at the place where both stand to open them there and change the cards). After installation I would have to do the same thing again to change them back. Plus I don´t like to fiddle inside my computers (I´m no tech-freak).

Hi Richard,Doesn't your FSX PC have a motherboard with a BUILT-IN network card on it? Many motherboards, in fact most of them, have this now, and they also have built in audio as an aside... I use Norton Internet Security 2010 and have used the newly designed Nortons since 2009. They have many options which you can turn off and also have full-screen program detection mode and I have found it to be highly effective in stopping malware and internet intrusions, even when surfing new websites that I've never been to. Norton, by the way, has the LOWEST performance impact of any security suite out there now, and has the best spyware and other malware detection percentage... Check PC Magazine reviews for proof if you like. Also, Norton Anti-virus with Anti-spyware has a gamer edition I believe, which has a much lesser performance impact...So don't worry about the internet. One thing I WOULD do (and which you are probably already doing) is not to install any other games on that FSX PC or any other programs which can conflict with FSX and its driver requirements).Have fun!Can Agbaba (John)

[Guest Moonraker]

Last, maybe a little stupid solution from me: buy cheapest router, it should be around 15$

As far as I know this would be illegal with my internet provider...Richard