That is brilliant, Dave. Now onto starting the work as soon as I get some free time. First fix will be for Cairo airport which needs some fixin if one uses the FSG ASTER 19m Egypt mesh.Best Regards

Well, I fully concur with psolk. Here's an example of what the new FSGenesis mesh does for Ireland in FS9. Co. Wicklow: In the foreground there is Glencree valley and Knockree Mountain and in the background Sugar Loaf Mountain and it's smaller cousin to the left. The real shot is a snapshot from a video so is not sharp but I think it is enough to show what a difference the new mesh makes. I know every nook and cranny in these mountains and they're all there. Very impressive so I've purchased a few more of these European mesh sceneries.

I think better would be a comparison of old mesh vs. new mesh. I have no doubt the new mesh is great. But for all these years, we've also been raving about the old mesh, so surely it was somewhat great also. Unless you're familiar with a spot, like you are, is one really gonna notice a huge difference? Justifying the cost. Especially with the NextMap stuff, not available as part of a subscription.:(

Would agree with the above point. I'd love to see some comparisons between this and something like FSGlobal 2010, as I'm sure there won't be much of a difference; certainly not a big enough one to warrant the price if you already own a previous mesh.

I don't have FS Global and have deleted the previous mesh so can't post any comparison shots. All I can tell you is that I have not seen any previous mesh for Ireland that comes close to this level of detail. If there is someone else who has FS Global maybe they could post a shot or two from the same area. Maybe it is as good. Rotate off 16 at EIDW and turn to heading approx. 200, head over the first range of mountains and drop down and look off to the left.On the other point I think the better level of detail does make a difference whether you are at 35,000ft or low and slow. I have done some flights (high and low) over the UK version of this mesh and it is a much more realistic experience not only in mountainous Scotland and Wales but on approaches to airports where there are now small hills left or right rather than flat land. I'd much rather experience that than, say, airport sceneries that allow you to look inside the terminal and see people playing Call of Duty on their laptops :(

I don't have FS Global and have deleted the previous mesh so can't post any comparison shots. All I can tell you is that I have not seen any previous mesh for Ireland that comes close to this level of detail. If there is someone else who has FS Global maybe they could post a shot or two from the same area. Maybe it is as good. Rotate off 16 at EIDW and turn to heading approx. 200, head over the first range of mountains and drop down and look off to the left.On the other point I think the better level of detail does make a difference whether you are at 35,000ft or low and slow. I have done some flights (high and low) over the UK version of this mesh and it is a much more realistic experience not only in mountainous Scotland and Wales but on approaches to airports where there are now small hills left or right rather than flat land. I'd much rather experience that than, say, airport sceneries that allow you to look inside the terminal and see people playing Call of Duty on their laptops :(

Hi Btrjet.Any chance you could provide another screenie with the Shift+Z text showing? That way we can see the lat & long and make our own comparisons. I use FS Global 2008 (see above) and would post a screenie myself for comparison if I knew your lat, lon, hdg and alt.All that's missing now is the photoreal ground textures.CoD fully embedded in FS9 might be a laugh (in-flight entertainment while the AP hadles the cruise?), though possibly a bit resource-hungry...Regards,D

Here you go, Dave.Now back to Space Invaders :(

Hi.Here's FS Global 2008. I also have the FScene textures, and I believe I added at one time some freeware landclass data for the whole of Ireland, so my scenery's a little different.I can see minor dfferences in the topography the FS Genesis hills appear slightly more precise which suggest there may be better accuracy in other parts of the world, especially mountainous areas...Regards,D

To complete the set, here's a shot with old style FS Genesis Mesh.I think they're pretty close with the newest mesh having the edge. Whether or not to go for it if you already have mesh, depends greatly on your flying habits, IMHO.:(

Thanks, Dave and F J for posting those shots. I think we can agree that the new FSGenesis is way superior to their old one and when you fly close to, for example, the Sugar Loaf this is patently obvious. To be fair, they originally provided the old version free as a sample of what they could produce and it was fine at the time.I can see minor differences in the topography the FS Genesis hills appear slightly more preciseI agree with that - not a lot but you can see it nevertheless.If someone who has FSGlobal2010 could post a shot that would complete the set.Dave, in relation to the landclass I had switched it off on the assumption that others who might be comparing shots might not have it so here is a shot with it turned on again. My freeware landclass file is Ireland.zip. Is that the one you are using or is there another one?

Well it does seem to be a little more detailed in the peaks, in this area at least, so may be worth it for the UK/Ireland. Not sure if there'd be an improvment in areas like the alps, as these are covered in noticably higher detail already than other areas in FSglobal.FSGlobal 2010

Thanks, clum, for that shot from FSGlobal2010. I'd have to say that I'd be disappointed with it as it seems to be less detailed than 2008 and with a very rounded-looking Sugar Loaf. Do you have the amended line in the fs9.cfg as follows:TERRAIN_MAX_VERTEX_LEVEL=21The reason I ask is that a friend of mine bought the new FSGenesis mesh but didn't see any difference but when I checked his cfg file it was set at 19 instead of 21. Also the slider in his OPTIONS/SETTINGS/DISPLAY/SCENERY/Terrain Mesh Complexity was set to 50. Changing it to 100 plus the above cfg file amendment brought the mesh out in all its glory.

For anyone interested in preview screenshots here's a couple I already had online from the last time the subject came up. This is the FSGenesis Colorado 19m package somewhere near Grand Junction:Jim

Thanks, clum, for that shot from FSGlobal2010. I'd have to say that I'd be disappointed with it as it seems to be less detailed than 2008 and with a very rounded-looking Sugar Loaf. Do you have the amended line in the fs9.cfg as follows:TERRAIN_MAX_VERTEX_LEVEL=21The reason I ask is that a friend of mine bought the new FSGenesis mesh but didn't see any difference but when I checked his cfg file it was set at 19 instead of 21. Also the slider in his OPTIONS/SETTINGS/DISPLAY/SCENERY/Terrain Mesh Complexity was set to 50. Changing it to 100 plus the above cfg file amendment brought the mesh out in all its glory.

Yep fs9's running at full pelt in that shot. I think the problem is that fsg2010 just doesn't cover the entire world in 19m, so Ireland is probably in 76/48 here. Other areas like the alps, are covered in much more detailed 19m mesh. To be fair though, for the price and considering it covers the entire world, it's still a good deal. To buy all these new regions of fsgenesis would cost an absolute fortune and only cover some select portions of the world. Think I'll stick where I am for now.

My freeware landclass file is Ireland.zip. Is that the one you are using or is there another one?

Disabling it was a good idea. Not sure what I have... I'm at work at the mo'. I'll have a look later and see if I still have the original zip archived somewhere. If I miss the library tonight (no internet at home) I'll reply on Tuesday when the world returns to normal.

Well it does seem to be a little more detailed in the peaks, in this area at least, so may be worth it for the UK/Ireland. Not sure if there'd be an improvment in areas like the alps, as these are covered in noticably higher detail already than other areas in FSglobal.

I made that comment after noticing the distant peak (Sugarloaf?) has a more pointed summit in Btrjet's pic. I think ridges and summits are portrayed better in newer meshes because more work has gone into correcting the rounding that results from interpolation, especially where the crest or top lies between sample points.I'm off now to bury my head until that bloody... ...Royal Wedding... ...has blown over.Regards,D