After takeoff

[lantirn 0]

I did a high altitude takeoff (7800 ft) with bleeds off. (first flight of the day, with first flight in FS also)After takeoff my copilot didnt turned the bleeds on, not either turned the APU off in after start. At about 15000 ft i turned on the bleeds by myself. I didnt remember what the copilot said in after takeoff checklist, but i suppose that he said "engine bleeds off".My only intervention to the flows were the landing lights off during 9500 feet in order to avoid penalties in FSairlines.Why it did happen? Is that normal?

[lantirn 0]

Oh, and by the way on descend while we had completed approach and descend checklists, when i asked for landing checklist, he didnt respond, the FMA was in APPROACH as I can remember and i cycled manually to landing. After landing, he did the clean up without telling him!Here is the CVR (its the same flight with packs off after takeoff described in previous post)Sim Clock (12:50:35) - Captain: upSim Clock (12:51:07) - Captain: yesSim Clock (12:53:17) - Captain: thank youSim Clock (12:57:49) - Captain: preflight checklistSim Clock (12:57:53) - Captain: tested one hundred percentSim Clock (12:57:57) - Captain: normal autoSim Clock (12:57:59) - Captain: onSim Clock (12:58:02) - Captain: autoSim Clock (12:58:05) - Captain: setSim Clock (12:58:09) - Captain: setSim Clock (12:58:11) - Captain: cutoffSim Clock (12:58:16) - Captain: before start procedureSim Clock (12:58:38) - Captain: before start checklistSim Clock (12:58:40) - Captain: closed and lockedSim Clock (12:58:48) - Captain: setSim Clock (12:58:51) - Captain: onSim Clock (12:58:54) - Captain: lockedSim Clock (12:58:57) - Captain: setSim Clock (12:59:00) - Captain: setSim Clock (12:59:03) - Captain: completedSim Clock (12:59:06) - Captain: free and zeroSim Clock (12:59:09) - Captain: completedSim Clock (12:59:12) - Captain: onSim Clock (12:59:19) - Captain: cockpit to groundSim Clock (12:59:22) - Captain: we are ready for engine startSim Clock (12:59:33) - Captain: start engine twoSim Clock (13:00:24) - Captain: thank youSim Clock (13:00:28) - Captain: start engine oneSim Clock (13:01:36) - Captain: flaps fifteenSim Clock (13:01:47) - Captain: cockpit to groundSim Clock (13:01:51) - Captain: you are cleared to disconnect and go to hand signalsSim Clock (13:01:56) - Captain: flaps fifteenSim Clock (13:02:34) - Captain: before start checklistSim Clock (13:02:38) - Captain: armedSim Clock (13:02:40) - Captain: before taxi checklistSim Clock (13:02:42) - Captain: onSim Clock (13:02:45) - Captain: onSim Clock (13:02:47) - Captain: offSim Clock (13:03:00) - Captain: closedSim Clock (13:03:08) - Captain: continuousSim Clock (13:03:12) - Captain: checkedSim Clock (13:03:15) - Captain: r t oSim Clock (13:03:21) - Captain: idle detentSim Clock (13:03:24) - Captain: checkedSim Clock (13:03:26) - Captain: clearSim Clock (13:04:50) - Captain: offSim Clock (13:05:38) - Captain: heading zero one sixSim Clock (13:05:47) - Captain: restart the checklistSim Clock (13:06:03) - Captain: yesSim Clock (13:06:10) - Captain: before takeoff checklistSim Clock (13:06:12) - Captain: setSim Clock (13:06:15) - Captain: setSim Clock (13:06:28) - Captain: runway entry procedureSim Clock (13:07:45) - Captain: takeoffSim Clock (13:08:02) - Captain: checkedSim Clock (13:08:23) - Captain: gear upSim Clock (13:08:29) - Captain: select heading selectSim Clock (13:08:49) - Captain: select heading selectSim Clock (13:08:58) - Captain: set heading two seven zeroSim Clock (13:09:02) - First Officer: heading two seven zero setSim Clock (13:09:20) - Captain: select l navSim Clock (13:09:37) - Captain: select v navSim Clock (13:09:39) - Captain: flaps fiveSim Clock (13:10:07) - Captain: flaps oneSim Clock (13:10:28) - Captain: flaps upSim Clock (13:10:35) - Captain: select command aSim Clock (13:11:01) - Captain: after takeoff checklistSim Clock (13:12:41) - Captain: engine anti ice onSim Clock (13:12:51) - Captain: setSim Clock (13:12:54) - Captain: select engine anti ice onSim Clock (13:13:57) - Captain: select engine anti ice offSim Clock (13:14:25) - Captain: set heading three zero fiveSim Clock (13:14:35) - First Officer: heading three zero five setSim Clock (13:14:39) - Captain: checkedSim Clock (13:14:52) - Captain: upSim Clock (13:46:56) - Captain: select engine anti ice onSim Clock (13:47:30) - Captain: upSim Clock (13:49:02) - Captain: upSim Clock (13:49:08) - Captain: descent checklistSim Clock (13:49:53) - Captain: approach checklistSim Clock (13:51:43) - Captain: checkedSim Clock (13:52:58) - Captain: flaps oneSim Clock (13:53:05) - Captain: flaps fiveSim Clock (13:53:13) - Captain: set heading two four fiveSim Clock (13:53:19) - First Officer: heading two four five setSim Clock (13:54:52) - Captain: flaps fifteenSim Clock (13:56:09) - Captain: set heading zero zero eightSim Clock (13:56:18) - First Officer: heading zero zero eight setSim Clock (13:56:42) - Captain: engine anti ice onSim Clock (13:56:46) - Captain: select engine anti ice offSim Clock (13:57:56) - Captain: flaps thirtySim Clock (13:57:59) - Captain: gear downSim Clock (13:58:33) - Captain: select autopilot offSim Clock (13:58:43) - Captain: select auto throttle offSim Clock (13:58:56) - Captain: landing checklistSim Clock (13:59:02) - Captain: approach checklistSim Clock (13:59:13) - Captain: landing checklistSim Clock (13:59:16) - Captain: continuousSim Clock (13:59:18) - Captain: armedSim Clock (13:59:25) - Captain: gear downSim Clock (13:59:28) - Captain: downSim Clock (13:59:33) - Captain: flaps thirty green lightSim Clock (13:59:45) - Captain: landingSim Clock (14:00:12) - Captain: checkedSim Clock (14:00:49) - Captain: checkedSim Clock (14:01:32) - Captain: okay to clean upSim Clock (14:03:09) - Captain: a p u on the busSim Clock (14:03:52) - Captain: select taxi light offSim Clock (14:04:44) - Captain: shutdown checklistSim Clock (14:04:46) - Captain: offSim Clock (14:04:48) - Captain: offSim Clock (14:04:51) - Captain: setSim Clock (14:04:53) - Captain: upSim Clock (14:04:55) - Captain: setSim Clock (14:04:58) - Captain: cutoffSim Clock (14:04:59) - Captain: offSim Clock (14:05:13) - Captain: go ahead

[lantirn 0]

Ok, sorry for the multiple posts,I replicated again the same problem with bleeds OFF and APU on after takeoff.I understand that APU must remain ON to provide some air.In after takeoff checks, the copilot replies ENGINE BLEEDS ON, but the bleeds are OFF !APU bleed remains ON forever, APU remain ON forever, also the engine bleeeds remain OFF forever, unless action is taken.Bleeds OFF are selected in briefing tab.Never had same problems (although i allmost do engine bleed ON takeoffs)Thank you!

[byork 2,258]

Hi,The reason the FO/PNF did not "restore the bleeds" after takeoff is because you forgot to call "Climb Thrust" during the initial climb."Climb Thrust" is a verification call (since the airplane will usually set climb thrust by itself.)It's also the "trigger" used by FS2Crew to tell the FO to start restoring the bleeds if a bleeds off takeoff was done.So just say "Climb Thrust".Cheers,