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eD's "Voice Buddy" vs. ATC?

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I'm wondering how eDimensional's Voice buddy product is going to work with ATC - this is where I would most want to see voice commands in FS9. Anyone have any idea? I would also be interested in whether anyone has gotten a reliable system for interacting with FS9's atc using some of the other voice programs out there such as game commander, or any of the freewares.Thanks!sg

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Guest Grey_Wolf

The problem with talking to ATC with a voice program like Voice buddy or any other VOice programs that I know of. Is that a voice command when spoken is translated to a key command. For example, when you say Gear up, the program translates that to "g". since the ATC does use keycommands I'm sure it will work to an extent. For example Choosing Runway 24 for landing could be choice 2 or 3 in the atc menu but "2" and "3" are also used for many other ATC commands so it is probably set up for a key word like "ATC Two" or ATC Three"Does that make any sence? I dont have Voice Buddy, But I have tried other voice programs and thats basically how they all work, by turning a voice command in to a key command.

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Hi! I suggest that you read the description and the FAQ at ED`s site.I purcased Voice Buddy today, but haven`t got it yet.This is a phraze cut from the VB FAQ: "Voice Buddy also intuitively relays information based on the pilot's commands to ATC and back to the pilot." So i guess that says it all. :) RegardsBj

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You describe my exact concern much better than I could have! That's why I'm wondering what eD's product does to handle this...I would really like a realistic phrase book to be used with atc, but I'm guessing that's not possible right now.Thanks,sg

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Let me know what that means after you've had a few hours with it...;) If you wouldn't mind - I'd love to see a hands on review before I spend $50 as the ATC is the only aspect I'd likely use voice command for. Thanks,sg

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I will let you know as soon as i can test it. :)You should check out the review at flightsim.comregardsBj

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I didn't know there was a review as flightsim - off I go right now! Thanks for the pointer, and can't wait to hear what you have to say...much appreciated.sg

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I read the review, sounds great, but i think i will wait buying until i know some more from users here what it can do, and especially what it can not do.OHN

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Yep - same here. Read the review and noted how nothing was mentioned about how voice buddy interacts with ATC...not even a screenshot which shows ATC commands. Time will tell.sg

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Guest Satchmo

Goodness me, If that's a review I'll eat my hat! It's a 'blatent' sales pitch! :-erksI think I'll wait for the reviews on this forum before parting with any cash. :-dohCheers:-outtaSatchmo

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Guest WF443

I guess you guys have to wait for some time before i can tell you anything. I purchased it as a direct download/Electronic delivery, but i`m not sure it`s even released yet. Got a mail with the purchase details, but nothing else.RegardsBj

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Does Voice Buddy cause any negative impact on FPS?Best,Joel

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Guest David Lee 2

and the review on flightsim skirted the issue completely. It's hard to imagine how it could function any better than having you select the numbers from the menu. Especially since the menu choices change from time to time (e.g. #1 is not always "affirmative"). Also, how would you select the nearest airport from the menu? If it could do everything but the latter I would consider it though. I've always found those things to be resource hogs though - despite what the review says.David

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Guest goon

Yep, Cap Masons stuff is nearly always an 'infomercial'.....

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I can't see how it can be anything more than another Game Commander.i.e. to interact with ATC, you select the appropriate option from the menu by speaking "One", "Two" etc... It can't really do anything else unless it's tied in at a much lower level with the FS code.AFAIK it's just a speech to text (or in this case, key) converter based on Microsoft's/LH's engine. The added feature is that it (the software) also speaks back - i.e. has Captain Speaking like function.

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There is a message dated today in the Radar Contact forum concerning VoiceBuddy. Part of the quote was "I just got an email from Mr. Epstein (Ed) and he said they are considering adding the ability to talk to ATC in VoiceBuddy V2" Not sure if he is talking about the stock ATC also. Sounds like there may be an upgrade needed. One thing that concerned me was they were stressing the default aircraft. I wonder how 3rd party aircraft like PMDG and PSS with their sometimes weird keystroke combinations will fare with VB. John Fitzpatrick

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Guest Mark Hazeldine

Yep, it was me who got that e-mail (well 3 actually)!Here's an edited version of what he told me:MICHEAL EPSTEIN:"Voice Buddy does not respond foryou, per se. You must choose how to respond to ATC, just as any pilot in command would. Voice Buddy gives you a hands-free way to handle ATC calls. The dialog goes like this:"Display ATC"(To bring up the ATC window)As you receive ATC calls, you're offered various response options. With Voice Buddy, you just say, "Select 1" to choose options #1. Or. Select 4" to choose option four, etc. All the while, you keep hands on yoke and throttle, feet on the rudders, eye on flying the airplane."ME: "Will you be able to speak to ATC directly in a future software version?"MICHAEL EPSTEIN:"Yes, that is something we are considering for V 2.0, but it would bedifficult. Currently you never have to touch your keyboard, which is a huge advantage."So there you go! In the future maybe? I don't know i might go for this anyway. Even just for the headset and checklists thing. It would make final approach and ground handling a bit easier.Mark

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Hi.I am not familiar with "Voice buddy", but I can tell you that "SpeechBuddy2" available here at AVSIM and free, based on the SAPI503 has a very good recognition algorithm, with very good recognition and good Voice confirmation, speech output. Back in the mid 80s I worked on a hardware solution for voice recognition, and I

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Guest David Lee 2

Thanks for the info. Just another Game Commander in my book but I'm sure others will have fun with it. To truly practice ATC communications I find it much more realistic to actually say the phrase first, then hit the key command and listen to how close my phrase was. Saying "2" and letting Speech Buddy do the hard work doesn't suit my needs or interests.David

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According to their sales department it is due for release on Friday. However they did say it may come out as early as today.Tom

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Guest thefringe

With some innovative editing, any of these voice recognition machines can be made to interact with ATC to some extent. For example when 'Roger' requires key #1, I'll say "Roger". If Roger requires key #2 in a different situation, I'll say "Roger That". When Roger Requires key #3, I'll say "That's a Roger". I'll also say "Switching" (keystroke 1) when promted to tune the next controller's frequency. These are all easily programmed in by editing. This way 1,2 or 3 is activated at the correct time. Also because some software has phrase length limitations, you will have to smartly edit your english written command. "L A Senr 9 9 5 with u" instead of "Los Angeles Center United Nine Nine Five is with You at Flight Level"....etc. Yes, I have been using GC and other software for quite a while. Just turn off the pilot voices and you are ready to interact with ATC.John M.

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Thanks Gridley !(actually as an FS9 beta tester, I've been around for a while but have not posted for 90 days so had to re-register !) I apologize for not having access to my gaming system, so I can't furnish the actual profile. System crashed a while back and I am contemplating repair or upgrade. Maybe Santa will drop an Athlon 64 or P4 3.2 down my chimney. In reality, my GC profile includes the examples in my above post plus just a few other commands. These are more straight forward and can be customized to fit your taste. "Tower, 9 9 5 requests landing clearance" (assigned to key #1) followed by "9 9 5 copy clear 2 land" (assigned to key # 1 or 2, I forget which). I generally have all the centers assigned by name (Seattle Center... Salt Lake Center..... etc) and some local (Seattle) areas added to Departure, Tower, Ground etc. " 9 9 5 Say again" of course assisned to key 2, and possibly "9 9 5 could you repeat" instead assigned to key #3 in certain situations. You can actually create an entire GC or Speech/Game Buddy ATC profile including some flight commands ("Gear up/down" assigned to key G, and "Flaps set for take-off" assigned to (F7)+(F7)+(F7) ) in 5-10 minutes. Adding individual airports and Center names will take longer off course. Some software has upwards of 250 assignable commands.Best of luck,John M. I

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