Near Miss at JFK...

[Chris F. 95]

"Cancel take off! Cancel take off plans!" yelled a frightened air controller who saw that the Munich-bound Lufthansa Airbus A340 was headed toward a collision with an Egypt Air Boeing 777 at around 6:50 p.m. Monday.

So apparently, Egypt Air turned onto the wrong taxiway and almost taxiied onto RWY 22R at the same time a Lufthansa plane was taking off. I wonder what was going thru the pilots head on that Egypt Air flight.Here's a link to more info and a listen to ATC:Info and ATC on that dayI can't really find a good recording of the incident but I hope I do. Share your thoughts.Also, if any mods want to move this to a different forum, then go ahead.

[Sekstifire 10]

They have a couple of recordings of it on http://www.liveatc.net/recordings.php, one from TWR (the same as the one on that news site) and one from GND

[SWA737 0]

wow

[PHXMD-11 86]

Now, I'm not a genius when it comes to ground operations, but shouldn't ground control know where planes are? But kudos to the controller who saw this.

[SWA737 0]

Now, I'm not a genius when it comes to ground operations, but shouldn't ground control know where planes are? But kudos to the controller who saw this.

The 777 turned on the wrong way, was not controllers fault. i think.

[Chris F. 95]

Now, I'm not a genius when it comes to ground operations, but shouldn't ground control know where planes are? But kudos to the controller who saw this.

Yeah, I believe it was the pilots fault on this one.

[1FLIGHTSIMFANATIC 4]

I hear many pilots screwing up at JFKMichael Pare

[PHXMD-11 86]

I'm sure that the Egypt Air crew are probably to blame but I should have asked if the 777 showed up on ASDE-X (which I just found out about) or if it was being monitored?

[MMartinov 48]

Just ask yourselves the question - why the problem originated from the flight deck of Egypt Air and not Lufthansa flight, and you might be enlighten of why it happened in the first place...

[captainklm 1]

what happened to the Egypt air pilot?

[Alaaar 34]

It's hard to imagine that the Egypt air pilot was taxiing without a clear instructions (at one of the busiest airport in the world) that applies to the Lufthansa pilot TO too, if it was foggy day it would be another KLM & Pan-Am Tenerife disaster.

[captainklm 1]

would have had a much higher fatality. It would have killed 630 people which is more than the Tenerife disaster. We can only say thank god and take better steps so that near miss never happens again

[Efussander 0]

<br />It's hard to imagine that the Egypt air pilot was taxiing without a clear instructions (at the busiest airport in the world) that applies to the Lufthansa pilot TO too, if it was foggy day it would be another KLM & Pan-Am Tenerife disaster.<br />

I'm not being a jerk or anything, but JFK is not by any means the busiest airport in the world, neither in terms of passengers carried, nor aircraft movements. In fact, last year it came in at 14th place, right behind Dubai, and so far this year, it is in 18th place.The busiest airport in the world is Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta Intl Airport, followed by Beijing Capital Airport, followed by Chicago O'Hare Intl Airport. Sorry for the correction, just thought I'd clear that up for other readers who might see. :(

[Alaaar 34]

Ok I ll add" One of "Thanks

I'm not being a jerk or anything, but JFK is not by any means the busiest airport in the world, neither in terms of passengers carried, nor aircraft movements. In fact, last year it came in at 14th place, right behind Dubai, and so far this year, it is in 18th place.The busiest airport in the world is Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta Intl Airport, followed by Beijing Capital Airport, followed by Chicago O'Hare Intl Airport. Sorry for the correction, just thought I'd clear that up for other readers who might see. :(

[Efussander 0]

Ok I ll add a One of Thanks

No worries. <img src='http://static.avsim.net/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':('I was just informing you...its not important or anything. Take care!