December 16, 200322 yr I just ordered it last night but I am still hesitant on the vid card.Here are the specs :CASE MOD|COLDCT D0012 (BLUE)TT RT 1 CASE ANTEC|PLUSVIEW 1000AMG LE RET 1 ACCES FAN|8CMX25 TLF-82 LED CLR RT 4 CABLE HD|IDEATA133 18"3H BLUE RT 1 CABLE HD|ADI SATA 18"CATA150-182GRY 2 MB ASUS P4C800-E DELUXE CANTERWOOD 1 VGA ATIOEM|RADEON 9800PRO 256M 8X% 1 Here is the issue .... POWER SUPPLY ANTEC TrueBLUE480 RET 1 MOUSE PAD|8" X 9" X 6MM ABS (BLUE) 1 CPU P4/3.0CGHz 800M 478P/512K HT RT 1 DDRAM 512MB 32MX8 PC-3200C2 COR% 2 FD 1.44MB|MITSUMI D359M3D BLACK % 1 HD 80GB|SEAGATE ST380023AS SATA % 2 RAID 0 KB&MSE MS|WRLSS OPTICAL DESKTOP OEM 1 CDRW LITEON|52X32X52X LTR-52327S BK 1 DVD|SONY 16X DDU1612/B2 BLACK OEM 1 SOUND BLASTER|AUDIGY 2 ZS PCI RTL 1 S/W MCAFEE|VirusScan 8 1YR BUNDLE% 1 S/W SIERRA|HALF LIFE Platinum 2 RTL 1 KLIPSCH PROMEDIA GMX A-2.1 1 S/W MS|WORKS 7.0 OEM BUNDLEVERSION% 1 S/W MS|WIN XP HOME SP1a BNDLE ONLY* 1 ABS USER MANUAL I have read so much about issues with the 9800pro 256 that I can for the same money get the asylum FX5950ultra 256.I need to make the change to the order today so I hope someone can helpThanks
December 16, 200322 yr Exactly what issues are there with the Radeon card?, I "jumped ship" from Nvidia a little while back and in my opinion the 9800 Pro is a superior card to the Nvidia card.Dan.
December 16, 200322 yr Here's a couple of in-depth reviews:http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware...ws/fx5950ultra/http://www.overclockers.co.nz/ocnz/review....ytefx5950ut0105http://www.viperlair.com/reviews/video_gra...pro/index.shtmlhttp://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NDM5Bear in mind that most of the reviews concentrate on "regular" games, and the conclusions may not be entirely relevent to FS2004, however as the newer card the FX5950 may have a slight edge.Either way, both are high-end expensive cards and I'm sure either would be more than adequate for FS2004. With the 3.0C GHz (???) chip and 512Mb DDR RAM, you should be flying, to excuse the pun !Alastair
December 16, 200322 yr "The RAM is Corsair 1Gig PC3200 400Mhz"....Then stop worrying!If you spend any time on this forum (or any FS forum) you should have seen the posts by everyone and know that there is now certain configuration that will be perfect for thie sim! There are users with the exact specs you are getting that can't get it to run well and then there are users with specs half that to where it is running smooth as silk. Just get the best you can afford and enjoy. You new specs are top end it should be a speedster out of the box, keep in mind all the addon crap is what ruins the performance.Regards, MichaelKDFWhttp://mysite.verizon.net/res052cd/mybannercva1.jpgCalVirAir International VAwww.calvirair.comCougar Mountain Helicopters & Aviationwww.cgrmtnhelos.com Best, Michael KDFW
December 16, 200322 yr Be a man and stop whinning like a kid. It is getting ridiculous. Get 'another' video card if this is what you want. I am afraid you will be back crying no matter what video crad you will end up buying.Michael J.http://www.reality-xp.com/community/nr/rsc/rxp-higher.jpg Michael J.
December 16, 200322 yr >Be a man and stop whinning like a kid. It is getting>ridiculous. Get 'another' video card if this is what you want.>I am afraid you will be back crying no matter what video crad>you will end up buying.>>Michael J.>http://www.reality-xp.com/community/nr/rsc/rxp-higher.jpgIMHO this sort of attacking post is really not warranted.He is just asking for some advice because he is concerned that he might be making the wrong decision, that's all. Not everyone has the technical ability to make the correct decision first time and neither has everyone the money to make expensive mistakes.A little courtesy will go a long way.David
December 16, 200322 yr You clearly has not been following this guys around - he has been making similar posts on different forums. At some point enough is enough. The guy clearly will be here whinning again when he gets his systems. No, I am not gonna make apologies - I consider him a first class whinner. Of course - he can post another 100 posts on the subject (it is legal) but I am entitled to my comment.Michael J. Michael J.
December 16, 200322 yr >You clearly has not been following this guys around - he has>been making similar posts on different forums. At some point>enough is enough. The guy clearly will be here whinning again>when he gets his systems. No, I am not gonna make apologies ->I consider him a first class whinner. Of course - he can post>another 100 posts on the subject (it is legal) but I am>entitled to my comment.>>Michael J.>well said Mr.J,and in a civil manner too....i only wish to add this:i'd be happy to swap my geforce4 ti4200 for his radeon 9800 pro,if he starts whining about that....geez ;-)
December 17, 200322 yr Well I have to say I am astonished at some of your responses.Some of you are either jealous of the choice I made or just have no life.Technically I can run circles around most of you guys.I am an EE engineer in semiconductors for the last 15 yrs.I will admit I posted a few post in this forum and the hardware fourm to get a kwoledge base of users who use Alienware or ABS and video card recommendations, did not know that was illegal.I had trouble with a 9800Pro on my current system and I was leery about getting the 256 on the system.Most of you guys respond with links that in general point to the ATI as top runner but their are some that contradict other sites.I was relying on my fellow simmers to help me out I was not #### just asking.So those of you that have an issue with my post F___ OFF.Clear enough .....Andy
December 17, 200322 yr Andy bad choice don't get that 9800 Pro or you won't be happy. BTW, when are you ordering?NoelBTW: just kidding! Sorry I couldn't help it!Seriously, if you can wait 3-4 months perhaps you can grap R420 based card from ATI, or NV's next gen part. I'm happy with this 9700 for now, but will prob upgrade to R420 in the late Spring. Good luck with your new rig. Mine's a year old now and still going strong.Noel Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
December 17, 200322 yr I was going to upgrade my video card in January, but now Im hearing that the next gen from ATI and Nvidia will make their current flagship chips obsolete. Hell, I dont know what to think. If I wait for these new chips maybe there will be new news on the horizon and it will be a vicious circle resulting in me flying FS2004 with a Ti4200 for the rest of my life. LOL.Craig
December 17, 200322 yr AndySad to say, there is this thing called Netiqutte.If you ask the same question in two different forums on the web then you are likely to get "flamed" for it. "Flaming" is the equivalent of being abused and is 100 percent unacceptable. The question is, though, would these same people have the courage to behave like this if they were in a room face to face with you and a few other people? I doubt it. Consider ....X invites a few friends round to his house for an evening of flight simulation. He asks a couple of them a question about the ABC123 video card. Suddenly, one of them says "You asked the same question of someone else yesterday - how dare you" then punches him hard in the face, knocking him to the ground in the process.This is what happens in forums. The only difference is that in a forum you don't have to come physically face to face with anyone - that would take real courage.I hope you get your card question sorted out OK. I have an NVidia FX5600 which some people on the web have told me is crap. Just goes to show you how much they really know :-lolDavid
December 17, 200322 yr Maybe Michal should be flamed for consistently failing to spell whining correctly!
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