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Oh man, I just bought the PMDG MD-11 after "mastering" the NGX with voice, and the next website I went to was FS2Crew to grab the MD-11 set. Now I find out there ISN'T a voice package?! I thought the MD-11 was newer than the 747 (which I bought about a month after buying the NGX)? Why wouldn't voice be a part of it? I guess "Combo" doesn't mean what it used to. The voice version for NGX is just the snizzle.

 

If I had known this, I would have just waited for the 777....now I'm afraid the 11 will just sit in the hanger. Anyone got that thread handy for dealing with a regrettable purchases? :huh:

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Here you go. But your biggest regret is surely not checking the FS2Crew site to see if there was a voice set before purchase. You are at the end of long queue of people wanting it.

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Guys, to be fair, we don't advertise the MD-11 as a "Voice Control" package, so please don't list FS2Crew MD-11 as a 'regrettable' purchase because it's not 'Voice Control'. :huh:

 

That's not fair to us.

 

A "Voice" MD-11 version is something I'd like to do... problem is time B)

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Hmm, I always thought that FS2Crew for MD-11 has voice control. I have not bought it yet. Still sitting on the fence between it and MCE. I guess I have to dig deeper.

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Guys, to be fair, we don't advertise the MD-11 as a "Voice Control" package, so please don't list FS2Crew MD-11 as a 'regrettable' purchase because it's not 'Voice Control'. :huh:

That's not fair to us.

A "Voice" MD-11 version is something I'd like to do... problem is time B)

Bryan:

With all due respect, you don't advertise FS2Crew MD-11 as "WITHOUT VOICE" either. As I stated in my original post, and I will take full blame for my lack of doing the proper homework, I incorrectly assumed that if the PMDG747 has a voice edition, and the PMDG MD11 was a newer product, there would be voice. I guess I should have spent a couple of hours finding out that "Combo Pack" (which BTW, if you have FSX, why would you also need a FS9 product?) is different from a "Special Bundle Pack" for the NGX, and now I see after installing it that the MD-11 is actually a FS2Crew 2010 product. There is not even small print at the bottom of the product page that it's either a BUTTON ONLY version or a NON-VOICE edition. Couple that with the mention of a UK/Euro Voice set, I don't think it's stretch for one to think it has INTERACTIVE voice included. (I will admit that it doesn't state that a microphone is required equipment, though. But LACK of a mention-or lack thereof-doesn't always necessarily mean the opposite either).

 

With as much as I absolutely love FS2Crew for the NGX, I will not list the MD-11's FS2Crew as a regrettable purchase, AS LONG AS FS2CREW ADMENDS THEIR PRODUCT PAGE TO REFLECT THIS so the next poor smluck doesn't make the same buying mistake I or others did. I think that's a descent resolution, don't you (I mean, until you create a Voice version!). For me, the NGX product's worth is immeasurable. ukflight is correct: my main regret is not realizing it is a Buyer's Beware market, so I guess I should consider the NGX package to have cost me about $66 USD. <_<

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Extortion over failure to properly understand what you were buying. Yeah that's a great deal.

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@seanBH: if you truly believe the mistake is an honest one, you should refrain from listing it as regrettable.

 

Extorting Bryan's reputation is despicable as he has been 110% upfront and honest with all his customers.

Your attitude needs serious work. Shame on you.

 

 

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Extortion over failure to properly understand what you were buying. Yeah that's a great deal.

I thought someone would see it my way! Thanks Randy! no...As I overly admitted I was implicit in the "deal", I thought some clarity for the good of all their potential customers was a good compromise. If you call that extortion, then I'm guilty as charged. Beware, though.... this is a thread multipage thread about customers who wished FS2Crew would've or should've created a voice version.

 

777fan: by all means, I do believe it was an honest mistake, and I did not list it as regrettable. But I think it's important for the wrong to be righted, hence...my suggestion to be clearer on the product page.

 

Looks guys, I didn't make all this up to be a pest- I am a very diehard FS2Crew customer and all I want to do is make sure that proper depiction of ANY product is given a customer. I must have read through 11 pages of the hype on the PMDG MD-11 thread (didn't pick up on ANY indication that there wasn't voice, but it wasn't about that), decided to buy it, installed it, and went straight to the FS2Crew page to buy the package. I've stated my thoughts as to why I thought I may have been misled, and I stand by those reasons. I don't mean to "extort" Bryan or anyone at FS2Crew, as it is this type of conversation that will either convince them they have a true need or they won't.

 

 

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Would've could've should've has nothing to do with threatening a negative review based on your mistake. Amazing.

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I don't mean to "extort" Bryan or anyone at FS2Crew,

 

And you still posted on the regretable purchase for fsx thread :Thinking:

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Just so this doesn't happen again, I'm going to update the old button control version so it's clear that they're button control only.

 

Thing to remember is that FS2Crew has been around for 8 or 9 years, and in the beginning everything was button control. There was no voice control.

 

So there was no need to explicitly mark the products as 'button control' when I added them to the shop.

 

Sean, check your PM's.

 

Cheers,

Bryan

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Just so this doesn't happen again, I'm going to update the old button control version so it's clear that they're button control only.

 

Thing to remember is that FS2Crew has been around for 8 or 9 years, and in the beginning everything was button control. There was no voice control.

 

So there was no need to explicitly mark the products as 'button control' when I added them to the shop.

 

Sean, check your PM's.

 

Cheers,

Bryan

 

Bryan: I can't thank you enough for responding and rectifying this issue as quickly as you have. It speaks volumes to the integrity of yourself and the FS2Crew organization. This is the type of SUPPORT that I spoke of earlier in another thread, and at least to me, is a major factor in determining if a product is worthy of a purchase. This action now leaves no doubt as to the customer commitment that FS2Crew has to their customers. THANK YOU!

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Bryan: I can't thank you enough for responding and rectifying this issue as quickly as you have. It speaks volumes to the integrity of yourself and the FS2Crew organization. This is the type of SUPPORT that I spoke of earlier in another thread, and at least to me, is a major factor in determining if a product is worthy of a purchase. This action now leaves no doubt as to the customer commitment that FS2Crew has to their customers. THANK YOU!

 

Nowhere in any of your posts do I see a "sorry" for the ultimatum you put over Bryan's head.

I guess at this point though, if it has to be forced it isn't really genuine.

 

 

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Bryan, I have been waiting so long since I purchased the MD-11 for you guys to make a voice control version.  I absolutely love my 74 and now the NGX is superb!  I hope you can get it done some day soon!

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Hi Bryan, I have just bought the MD11, so count me in as a customer. I like the the button version as well, so will probably get it anyway, it's great for making vids ( I hate the sound of my own voice!)

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I spend 99% of time flying the Maddog.

 

I would purchase the MD-11 from PMDG, but only if Bryan did upgrade it to voice control.

 

You have a prospective customer here if you ever do  :P

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C'mon Bryan, It's time for action.  No more excuses please?  B)

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I bought the PMDG MD 11 today.

Unfortunately i mentioned there is no voice edition and this way i found this forum.

I hope there will be a voice edition, because i don't like a button edition.

Will this be made someday or is there any alternative?

 

 

BTW i love the product on the 747.

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