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What monitor does the NGX deserve?

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42 inch LG LED-LCD 1080p HDTV. It has an IPS panel, 120hz, 5,000,000 to 1 contrast ratio. Model is 42LV5500. Got it on Amazon for 680 bucks. Hooked into my computer via HDMI cable, no vga or dvi cable nonsense. Input lag its non existent to my eyes (Lg its known for very low input lag).

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I ENVY both you 30" monitor simmers!! I've been dying to get one for FSX for ages but there just so damned expensive. I may just have to put the old tax return towards it and go out and buy one. The NGX will make it totally worth while.
Check out the Dell Outlet. You can often get monitors there for close to 50% off their original price, and IIRC, they also come with a warranty. While there are HDTVs out there with IPS displays (for very reasonable prices, like the LG for isntance), they aren't quite the same as what you will find on a high-end computer panel, the image quality will also not be anyhwere near the same quality, and you will often have a panel lottery (Where some panel manufacturers will tell you they make their HDTVs with IPS diplays when in all actualiy that may not be the case. LG and Samsung are notorious for this). If you decide to go with a HDTVanyways, depending on how far you will be sitting away, I would only get an LG 32" or 37" (if you decide to go the LG route, MAKE SURE you check the AVS.Forums to find out about any panel lotteries with the specific model you are looking at), or Panasonic 32" or 37". I've had an HDTV on my desk in the 32", 37" and 40" sizes and the 32" and 37" were a decent size, where as the 40" just didn't look good to me (dot pitch at 1920x1080 is too low for that size under a 5ft viewing distance, IMO). The 52" just looked like garbage from any distance. lol Hope this helps!

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Check out the Dell Outlet. You can often get monitors there for close to 50% off their original price, and IIRC, they also come with a warranty. While there are HDTVs out there with IPS displays (for very reasonable prices, like the LG for isntance), they aren't quite the same as what you will find on a high-end computer panel, the image quality will also not be anyhwere near the same quality, and you will often have a panel lottery (Where some panel manufacturers will tell you they make their HDTVs with IPS diplays when in all actualiy that may not be the case. LG and Samsung are notorious for this). If you decide to go with a HDTVanyways, depending on how far you will be sitting away, I would only get an LG 32" or 37" (if you decide to go the LG route, MAKE SURE you check the AVS.Forums to find out about any panel lotteries with the specific model you are looking at), or Panasonic 32" or 37". I've had an HDTV on my desk in the 32", 37" and 40" sizes and the 32" and 37" were a decent size, where as the 40" just didn't look good to me (dot pitch at 1920x1080 is too low for that size under a 5ft viewing distance, IMO). The 52" just looked like garbage from any distance. lol Hope this helps!
Absolute rubbish. An IPS panel is an IPS panel whether a dedicated monitor or hdtv unless you get a Panasonic IPS-A panel. The lg model I have only comes in IPS panels, there is no lottery for that one . In fact my hdtv looks much better imo to the best 30in monitot out there. Nevermind the scale and perception value is much better in fsx with a large hdtv over even a 30in monitor.

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Absolute rubbish. An IPS panel is an IPS panel whether a dedicated monitor or hdtv unless you get a Panasonic IPS-A panel. The lg model I have only comes in IPS panels, there is no lottery for that one . In fact my hdtv looks much better imo to the best 30in monitot out there. Nevermind the scale and perception value is much better in fsx with a large hdtv over even a 30in monitor.
"An IPS panel is an IPS panel whether a dedicated monitor or hdtv unless you get a Panasonic IPS-A panel." That is just wrong. Do yourself a favor and go look up 6-bit vs 8-bit along with all the different varieties of IPS. Then come back and call what I say "rubbish". Research...research...research... LG Panels 42" and above come with IPS displays (in most of the panels I know of). Those in the 32" and 37" categories, the size I recommended, do not always come with IPS displays. Not ALL IPS displays are the same either. There are a few different versions of IPS and not all are created equal. LG even creates some of the IPS panels for Apple, Dell, Acer, etc.. but they are not all the same panel. lol As far as a 42" HDTV vs a 30" PC Panel (Clarity wise): 1920 x 1080 @ 42" vs 2560x1600 @ 30" 42" @ 1920x1080 = About 20-25 PPI 30" @ 2560x1600 = About 100 PPI That is a huge difference in clarity right there. Perception and scale mean nothing if the clarity is nowehere near that of the other option. I tried to replace my 30" with an HDTV and the picture was so night and day between the two there was no way I could stick with the HDTV. I was under the impression myself that a much bigger display would be much better with FSX, and IMO, I couldn't have found myself more wrong. If you like using an HDTV for FSX than be my guest and enjoy! To each their own! But don't tell people that IPS displays are IPS displays and that they are essentially created equal (sort of what you eluded too). These items cost way to much money to lead people with false information. smile.png

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42 inch LG LED-LCD 1080p HDTV. It has an IPS panel, 120hz, 5,000,000 to 1 contrast ratio. Model is 42LV5500. Got it on Amazon for 680 bucks. Hooked into my computer via HDMI cable, no vga or dvi cable nonsense. Input lag its non existent to my eyes (Lg its known for very low input lag).
Thanks for all the posts, I am learning a lot. A question to the quoted poster, I did some quick research and thought I read that IPS monitors are LCD-- why would you not get a LED monitor. I see "LED-LCD" in your post, not sure what this means.Thanks, Bruce.

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Thanks for all the posts, I am learning a lot. A question to the quoted poster, I did some quick research and thought I read that IPS monitors are LCD-- why would you not get a LED monitor. I see "LED-LCD" in your post, not sure what this means. Thanks, Bruce.
Means it's an LCD screen with LED backlighting. Makes for better colors/contrast I believe. As far as I know, there aren't any true LED monitors on the consumer market. That info is a couple of years old, but I doubt it's changed

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Thanks- still learning, obviously.... Bruce.

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KBJC, Colorado.

"An IPS panel is an IPS panel whether a dedicated monitor or hdtv unless you get a Panasonic IPS-A panel." That is just wrong. Do yourself a favor and go look up 6-bit vs 8-bit along with all the different varieties of IPS. Then come back and call what I say "rubbish". Research...research...research... LG Panels 42" and above come with IPS displays (in most of the panels I know of). Those in the 32" and 37" categories, the size I recommended, do not always come with IPS displays. Not ALL IPS displays are the same either. There are a few different versions of IPS and not all are created equal. LG even creates some of the IPS panels for Apple, Dell, Acer, etc.. but they are not all the same panel. lol As far as a 42" HDTV vs a 30" PC Panel (Clarity wise): 1920 x 1080 @ 42" vs 2560x1600 @ 30" 42" @ 1920x1080 = About 20-25 PPI 30" @ 2560x1600 = About 100 PPI That is a huge difference in clarity right there. Perception and scale mean nothing if the clarity is nowehere near that of the other option. I tried to replace my 30" with an HDTV and the picture was so night and day between the two there was no way I could stick with the HDTV. I was under the impression myself that a much bigger display would be much better with FSX, and IMO, I couldn't have found myself more wrong. If you like using an HDTV for FSX than be my guest and enjoy! To each their own! But don't tell people that IPS displays are IPS displays and that they are essentially created equal (sort of what you eluded too). These items cost way to much money to lead people with false information. smile.png
Perfect. No way to compare the image I get on my Dell U2410 24''running at 1920X1200'' with the TV in my Living Room, a Full HD Panasonic Plasma 50'' . The plasma is perfect for movies, and even videogames, but the Dell is unbeatable for Windows usage.

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Check out the Dell Outlet. You can often get monitors there for close to 50% off their original price, and IIRC, they also come with a warranty. While there are HDTVs out there with IPS displays (for very reasonable prices, like the LG for isntance), they aren't quite the same as what you will find on a high-end computer panel, the image quality will also not be anyhwere near the same quality, and you will often have a panel lottery (Where some panel manufacturers will tell you they make their HDTVs with IPS diplays when in all actualiy that may not be the case. LG and Samsung are notorious for this). If you decide to go with a HDTVanyways, depending on how far you will be sitting away, I would only get an LG 32" or 37" (if you decide to go the LG route, MAKE SURE you check the AVS.Forums to find out about any panel lotteries with the specific model you are looking at), or Panasonic 32" or 37". I've had an HDTV on my desk in the 32", 37" and 40" sizes and the 32" and 37" were a decent size, where as the 40" just didn't look good to me (dot pitch at 1920x1080 is too low for that size under a 5ft viewing distance, IMO). The 52" just looked like garbage from any distance. lol Hope this helps!
As far as a 42" HDTV vs a 30" PC Panel (Clarity wise): 1920 x 1080 @ 42" vs 2560x1600 @ 30" 42" @ 1920x1080 = About 20-25 PPI 30" @ 2560x1600 = About 100 PPI That is a huge difference in clarity right there. Perception and scale mean nothing if the clarity is nowehere near that of the other option. I tried to replace my 30" with an HDTV and the picture was so night and day between the two there was no way I could stick with the HDTV. I was under the impression myself that a much bigger display would be much better with FSX, and IMO, I couldn't have found myself more wrong. If you like using an HDTV for FSX than be my guest and enjoy! To each their own! But don't tell people that IPS displays are IPS displays and that they are essentially created equal (sort of what you eluded too). These items cost way to much money to lead people with false information. smile.png
Cheers for your suggestions man. Resolution is a big thing for me too! The reason I'm so interested in a 30" (monitor not HDTV) is with dual-link DVI you can get up to 2560x1600 resolution! WHICH IS FREAKIN SWEEEETT!!! I was originally considering getting a 27" monitor but they only go up to 1920x1080 just like my current 24" so I don't see the point.It'll probably end up being a while before I ever upgrade, I live in Australia so not a lot of places stock 30" PC monitors and we don't really get many Dell/Samsung outlets, even Apple outlets are scarce in my area which means I need to take shipping into account aswell. Thanks again though, BTW I would never play ANY PC game on an HDTV. Only on PC monitors, your right they are so much better.

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Any one using the new Acer HN274H 27 inch Nvidia 3D vision ready monitor? About the night lighting issue with FSX in 3D, there were comments from people in another thread that they got that issue solved with the iZ3D 3D driver instead of the NVidia 3D driver. Can it be true if the 3D lighting issue is related to the FSX coding than a driver related issue? In yet another thread there were people who wrote that they had no issues with night lighting in 3D like runway lights and PAPI when they used payware airports like UK 2000 Xtreme series. Would that be true with other addons from FS Dream team, Flightbeam, Flytampa and UTX (which are stated to have 3D lighting unlike the 2D lighting in default FSX). Sorry if I am asking these questions in the wrong thread; just felt many would benefit if they were answered in this thread. I would be very much thankful for a reply as I was thinking of buying the 27 inch Acer which is a bit costly. Thanks in advance.Vinod.

Cheers for your suggestions man. Resolution is a big thing for me too!The reason I'm so interested in a 30" (monitor not HDTV) is with dual-link DVI you can get up to 2560x1600 resolution! WHICH IS FREAKIN SWEEEETT!!! I was originally considering getting a 27" monitor but they only go up to 1920x1080 just like my current 24" so I don't see the point.It'll probably end up being a while before I ever upgrade, I live in Australia so not a lot of places stock 30" PC monitors and we don't really get many Dell/Samsung outlets, even Apple outlets are scarce in my area which means I need to take shipping into account aswell. Thanks again though, BTW I would never play ANY PC game on an HDTV. Only on PC monitors, your right they are so much better.
You can also check out the Dell U2711. It is a 27" IPS panel with a resolution of 2560x1440. I don't know much about this one but it might be worth a look. Hope this helps!

Ark

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Thanks for all the great replies to this thread, much appreciated. I guess I am now down to one more technical question, if anyone's still up on this thread. What (at least for FSX and gaming in general) is tolerable (or acceptable, or desired) for the lag/latency figure? I see some monitors as low as 2 Ms, many at 6-8 Ms, some at 12-14 Ms, and some higher. At what figure does one start to see the effects of this, and what does the effect actually look like? Assuming here a 120 Hz monitor. Thanks, Bruce.

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KBJC, Colorado.

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I'm currently caught between these two: http://www1.euro.del...&~ck=dellSearch and http://www.ebuyer.co...speakers-ve278q The Dell one is better, but is it £384.47 better? Any advice?
Hi, One thing that page you linked to for the dell model does not have is the refresh rate. I was also looking at this monitor and googled the model number- seems that it's 60 Hz. From what I have learned here (and I may have gotten it wrong), if you ever wanted the ability to do 3D then you would need a 120 Hz refresh. Thanks, Bruce.

ASEL, Instrument.

KBJC, Colorado.

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