NGX Navdata

[dnc 0]

Can anyone tell me if the NGX shares the same navdata and sidstar data with other PMDG products e.g. B744? I’ve added the VHHX procedures to the PMDG NavData including sidstars and it works fine with the B744. With the NGX It will allow me to input the airport into the FMC but will not show either of the runways or any of the procedures.Thanks

[yos233 1]

The NGX uses the same navdata. For the time being at least...

[Paul Deemer 13]

Did you know when you update your AIRACS the info is lost and you have to re-enter it? Check to see that you still have all the info below. VHHX Tutorial for PMDG Planes. Unzip the file and place the VHHX.txt file into the \FSX\PMDG\SIDSTARS folder. (VHHX_V9.ZIP from Navigraph Website)http://www.navdata.at/ FSX Instructions: Find the Folder \FSX\PMDG\Navdata 1) Open file wpNavAPT.txt, and add following to lines to the end of file, then save it. HONG KONG KAI TAK VHHX13 10930136 22.321667 114.196667111.9008800015HONG KONG KAI TAK VHHX31 10930316 22.305500 114.214500109.9031600015 It is Very Important that you line up the coordinates with the other entries in the above file. If you do not line them up neatly like the other Coordinate entries then you will not see the SID/STARs in the FMC. The Coordinates start after the Runway numbers and you can use the space bar to push them over till they line up with the other coordinate entries. 2) Open file Airports.dat using Notepad or other text editor, and add following line: VHHX 22.316667 114.203333

[brettlesss 0]

I'm getting the same problem, and tried the the above fix.Brett Norris

[JC75 22]

Same issue here - whats changed?

[JC75 22]

it appears there as been some changes to the navdata and what now needs to be included in the VHHX.TXT for the NGX to be able to understand it - seems the NAVAID function been removed and now those NAVAIDS need to be specified as FIX's - also the decimal accuraccy as changed to. Seems this method is backwards compatible with the older PMDG a/c but not how the NGX reads things - http://www.austscene.com/ That site provides an excellent tool for putting VHHX back in when you do a NAVDATA upgrade its available for the PMDG and also the levelD - however hes still in the process of updating it to reconfigure for the NGX so wont work for the moment. Hes done all the Australlian ones. Hopefully he will have it up shortly.

[JC75 22]

As this hasnt been updated yet - anyone else managed to create a working set of files yet?

[PrestonIV 1]

Here is a working set of instructions for getting the VHHX info into the 737ngx FMC. I just had to update mine and its working exactly as it was before the NGX install. This was obtained from another forum elsewhere. I have also attached a copy of the instructions at the bottom of my post. Seems the NavData .txt files are sensitive to tab key entry!This file is provided in NoteBook format to avoid this issue!All files are (FSX) in the PMDG folder in your FSX installation!Copy and paste the lines into the 2 weNavxxx.txt filesAdd the line to airports.dat. You need to open that in NotePad!Create VHHX.txt and put it in the sidstars folderBravo India November Golf Oscar - You did it!========================================================================Add to wpNavAPT.txt (NavData folder)HONG KONG KAI TAK VHHX31 10930316 22.305500 114.214500109.9031600015HONG KONG KAI TAK VHHX13 10930136 22.321667 114.196667111.9008800015=========================================================================Add to wpNavAID.txt (NavData folder)IGS LLZ/DME RWY 13 KL ILSD 22.003299 114.104167111.90TLLZ/DME RWY 31 IIHK ILSD 22.324500 114.193667109.90TCH36X GP NDB 22.326667 114.191333333.00NHONG KONG INTL RW NDB 22.326667 114.191333337.00NIGS RWY 13 GP NDB 22.326833 114.092500331.00N==========================================================================Add to airports.dat (NavData folder)VHHX 22.316959 114.202621==========================================================================Create a new .txt file and call it VHHX.txt and save it to your sidstars folder.Copy and paste the following into VHHX.txt :-// VHHX - HONG KONG KAITAK INTL// Copyrighted 17/7/2006 by Gary Law, Jacky Wan// Edited 12/7/2007 by Thomas Lau: Gates Added// Data from 10/9/1997.// If your FMC displayed "NOT IN DATABASE" this sentence or any other error, please visit this website:// http://www.hkadb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11099 FIXES FIX A LATLON N 22 16.200 E 115 08.600FIX C LATLON N 21 17.480 E 113 36.300FIX D LATLON N 21 20.060 E 114 31.480FIX G LATLON N 22 12.550 E 113 54.180FIX J LATLON N 22 19.490 E 114 28.540FIX K LATLON N 21 52.300 E 114 41.300FIX L LATLON N 22 08.071 E 114 24.230 FIX M LATLON N 21 17.800 E 113 15.600FIX N LATLON N 22 17.400 E 115 11.400FIX O LATLON N 21 51.018 E 114 14.252FIX Q LATLON N 21 19.800 E 114 43.700FIX T LATLON N 21 12.200 E 113 43.600FIX W LATLON N 22 01.599 E 114 30.360FIX D15 LATLON N 22 19.008 E 113 55.516FIX OM13 LATLON N 22 19.404 E 114 06.009FIX MM13 LATLON N 22 19.574 E 114 10.209FIX CH LATLON N 22 13.200 E 114 01.800FIX CC LATLON N 22 12.100 E 114 01.600FIX TH LATLON N 22 14.300 E 114 17.300FIX SC LATLON N 22 19.200 E 114 07.900FIX RW LATLON N 22 19.600 E 114 11.500FIX SL LATLON N 22 17.500 E 113 54.400FIX BEKOL LATLON N 22 32.360 E 114 07.590FIX DAGON LATLON N 19 00.000 E 111 48.180FIX DOTMI LATLON N 22 43.060 E 116 10.050FIX DUMOL LATLON N 19 00.000 E 114 23.180FIX ELATO LATLON N 22 19.600 E 117 30.000FIX ENVAR LATLON N 21 59.500 E 117 30.000FIX EPDOS LATLON N 19 00.0 E 113 33.3FIX IDOSI LATLON N 19 00.000 E 112 30.000FIX KAPLI LATLON N 21 10.000 E 117 30.000FIX KILOG LATLON N 21 52.270 E 114 41.370FIX MAGOG LATLON N 22 17.460 E 115 49.300FIX NOMAN LATLON N 20 00.000 E 116 40.300FIX SABNO LATLON N 18 59.100 E 115 50.700FIX SIKOU LATLON N 20 50.360 E 111 30.000FIX TAMOT LATLON N 22 21.500 E 113 52.000FIX CH055 LATLON N 22 17.046 E 114 05.208FIX CH010 LATLON N 22 06.046 E 113 54.113FIX CH001 LATLON N 21 43.140 E 115 44.290FIX CH013 LATLON N 21 40.497 E 114 42.544FIX CH021 LATLON N 21 30.344 E 113 33.222FIX CH015 LATLON N 21 28.499 E 114 26.571FIX CH020 LATLON N 21 26.574 E 113 40.505FIX CH019 LATLON N 21 23.286 E 113 54.197FIX CH017 LATLON N 21 23.218 E 114 08.187FIX CH002 LATLON N 21 08.170 E 115 23.420FIX CH004 LATLON N 20 47.560 E 113 05.120FIX CH003 LATLON N 20 44.250 E 114 51.500FIX CC7 COLOCATED CC 270 7FIX CH100 COLOCATED CH 104 100FIX CH117 COLOCATED CH 117 100FIX CH132 COLOCATED CH 132 100FIX CH175 COLOCATED CH 175 100FIX CH190 COLOCATED CH 190 100FIX CH199 COLOCATED CH 199 100FIX CH214 COLOCATED CH 214 100ENDFIXESRNWSRNW 13RNW 31ENDRNWSSIDSSID BEKOL1A FIX BEKOLRNW 13 FIX TH FIX OVERFLY L AT OR BELOW 7000 DIRECT FIX J 7000 FIX BEKOL AT OR ABOVE 11800SID BEKOL2C FIX BEKOLRNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 TRK 154 UNTIL 9000 TURN LEFT FIX TH 11000 FIX BEKOL AT OR ABOVE 11800SID DAGON1A FIX DAGONRNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 235 INTERCEPT RADIAL 199 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH199 FIX DAGONSID DAGON1B FIX DAGONRNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 235 INTERCEPT RADIAL 214 FROM NAVAID CH FIX DAGONSID DAGON2C FIX DAGONRNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX CH199 FIX DAGONSID DAGON2D FIX DAGONRNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX DAGONSID DOTMI1A FIX DOTMIRNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 090 INTERCEPT RADIAL 104 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH100 FIX DOTMISID DOTMI2C FIX DOTMIRNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX O AT OR BELOW 9000 TRK 090 INTERCEPT RADIAL 104 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH100 FIX DOTMISID ELATO1A FIX ELATORNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 090 INTERCEPT RADIAL 104 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH100 FIX ELATOSID ELATO2C FIX ELATORNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX O AT OR BELOW 9000 TRK 090 INTERCEPT RADIAL 104 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH100 FIX ELATOSID ENVAR1A FIX ENVARRNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 FIX KILOG AT OR BELOW 14000 FIX ENVARSID ENVAR2C FIX ENVARRNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX O 9000 FIX KILOG AT OR BELOW 14000 FIX ENVARSID EPDOS1A FIX EPDOSRNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 235 INTERCEPT RADIAL 190 FROM NAVAID CH FIX EPDOSSID EPDOS2C FIX EPDOSRNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX EPDOSSID IDOSI1A FIX IDOSIRNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 235 INTERCEPT RADIAL 190 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH190 FIX IDOSISID IDOSI1B FIX IDOSIRNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 235 INTERCEPT RADIAL 205 FROM NAVAID CH FIX IDOSISID IDOSI2C FIX IDOSIRNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX CH190 FIX IDOSISID IDOSI2D FIX IDOSIRNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX IDOSISID NOMAN1A FIX NOMANRNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 136 INTERCEPT RADIAL 117 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH117 FIX NOMANSID NOMAN1B FIX NOMANRNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 180 INTERCEPT RADIAL 132 FROM NAVAID CH FIX NOMANSID NOMAN2C FIX NOMANRNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX O AT OR BELOW 9000 TRK 090 INTERCEPT RADIAL 117 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH117 FIX NOMANSID NOMAN2D FIX NOMANRNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX O AT OR BELOW 9000 TRK 090 INTERCEPT RADIAL 132 FROM NAVAID CH FIX NOMANSID SABNO1A FIX SABNORNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 180 INTERCEPT RADIAL 132 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH132 FIX SABNOSID SABNO1B FIX SABNORNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 180 INTERCEPT RADIAL 154 FROM NAVAID CH FIX SABNOSID SABNO2C FIX SABNORNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX CH175 FIX SABNOSID SABNO2D FIX SABNORNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX O AT OR BELOW 9000 FIX SABNOSID SIKOU1A FIX SIKOURNW 13 FIX TH FIX W TRK 235 INTERCEPT RADIAL 190 FROM NAVAID CH FIX OVERFLY CH190 DIRECT FIX SIKOUSID SIKOU2C FIX SIKOURNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX OVERFLY CH190 DIRECT FIX SIKOUSID SIKOU2E FIX SIKOURNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX OVERFLY CH214 DIRECT FIX SIKOUENDSIDSSTARSSTAR MAGOG FIX MAGOG FIX A AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX CHRNW 13STAR MAGOG31 FIX MAGOG FIX A AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX LRNW 31STAR NOMAN FIX NOMAN FIX CHRNW 13 RNW 31STAR NOMAN31 FIX NOMAN FIX D AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX LRNW 31STAR SABNO FIX SABNO FIX D AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX CHRNW 13 RNW 31STAR SABNO31 FIX SABNO FIX D AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX LRNW 31STAR DUMOL FIX DUMOL FIX CHRNW 13 RNW 31STAR DUMOL31 FIX DUMOL FIX D AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX LRNW 31STAR IDOSI FIX IDOSI FIX C AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX CHRNW 13 RNW 31STAR IDOSI31 FIX IDOSI FIX C AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX LRNW 31STAR DAGON FIX DAGON FIX CHRNW 13 RNW 31STAR DAGON31 FIX DAGON FIX C AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX LRNW 31STAR SIKOU FIX SIKOU FIX CHRNW 13 RNW 31STAR SIKOU31 FIX SIKOU FIX C AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX LRNW 31STAR TAMOT FIX TAMOT FIX OVERFLY M DIRECT FIX C 15000 SPEED 250 FIX CHRNW 13STAR TAMOT31 FIX TAMOT FIX OVERFLY M DIRECT FIX C 15000 SPEED 250 FIX LRNW 31ENDSTARSAPPROACHESAPPROACH IGS13 FIX CH 8000 FIX OVERFLY G 6000 SPEED 180 DIRECT FIX SL FIX D15 4500 FIX OM13 FIX MM13 FIX RW RNW 13 HOLD AT FIX TH RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 316 ALT 4500 SPEED 230 LEGTIME 1APPROACH IGS13CC FIX CC 8000 FIX OVERFLY CC7 6000 SPEED 180 DIRECT FIX SL FIX D15 4500 FIX OM13 FIX MM13 FIX RW RNW 13 HOLD AT FIX TH RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 316 ALT 4500 SPEED 230 LEGTIME 1APPROACH VISUAL13 FIX CH 4500 FIX OVERFLY SC DIRECT FIX RW RNW 13 HOLD AT FIX TH RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 316 ALT 4500 SPEED 230 LEGTIME 1APPROACH ILS31 FIX L 4500 FIX TH 2000 RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH HOLD AT FIX CH LEFT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 270 ALT 4500 SPEED 230 LEGTIME 1ENDAPPROACHESGATES// PASSENGER APRONGATE 1 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.6GATE 2 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.7GATE 3 N 22 19.7 E 114 11.7GATE 4 N 22 19.7 E 114 11.7GATE 5 N 22 19.7 E 114 11.7GATE 6 N 22 19.8 E 114 11.8GATE 7 N 22 19.8 E 114 11.8GATE 8 N 22 19.8 E 114 11.8GATE 15 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.7GATE 16 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.8GATE 17 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.8GATE 18 N 22 19.7 E 114 11.8GATE 19 N 22 19.7 E 114 11.8GATE 20 N 22 19.7 E 114 11.9GATE 21 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.8GATE 22 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.8GATE 23 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.8GATE 24 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.9GATE 25 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.9GATE 26 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.9GATE 27 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.8GATE 28 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.8GATE 29 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.9GATE 30 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.9GATE 31 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.9GATE 32 N 22 19.6 E 114 12.0GATE 33 N 22 19.3 E 114 11.9GATE 34 N 22 19.3 E 114 12.0GATE 35 N 22 19.4 E 114 12.0GATE 36 N 22 19.4 E 114 12.0GATE 37 N 22 19.5 E 114 12.0GATE 38 N 22 19.5 E 114 12.0GATE 71 N 22 19.0 E 114 12.2GATE 72 N 22 19.3 E 114 12.2GATE 73 N 22 19.3 E 114 12.2GATE 74 N 22 19.3 E 114 12.2GATE 75 N 22 19.3 E 114 12.3GATE 76 N 22 19.2 E 114 12.3GATE 77 N 22 19.2 E 114 12.4GATE 78 N 22 19.2 E 114 12.4GATE 79 N 22 19.1 E 114 12.4GATE 80 N 22 19.1 E 114 12.4GATE 81 N 22 19.1 E 114 12.5// MAINTENANCE APRONGATE M1 N 22 19.9 E 114 12.0GATE M2 N 22 19.9 E 114 12.1GATE M3 N 22 20.0 E 114 12.2GATE M4 N 22 19.7 E 114 12.0GATE M5 N 22 19.8 E 114 12.1GATE M6 N 22 19.8 E 114 12.1// CARGO APRONGATE Z41 N 22 19.6 E 114 12.1GATE Z43 N 22 19.6 E 114 12.1GATE Z44 N 22 19.6 E 114 12.2GATE Z45 N 22 19.7 E 114 12.2GATE Z46 N 22 19.7 E 114 12.2// Parking APRONGATE 47 N 22 20.0 E 114 12.2GATE 48 N 22 20.1 E 114 12.2GATE 49 N 22 20.1 E 114 12.2GATE 50 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5GATE 51 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.5GATE 52 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.5GATE 53 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5GATE 54 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5GATE 55 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5GATE 56 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5GATE 57 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5GATE 58 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5GATE 59 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5GATE 60 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5ENDGATES

[JC75 22]

Excellent thanks!

[PrestonIV 1]

No problem I just completed my first IGS 13 approach with the NGX using the new navdata, worked like a charm. I thought Id also attach the completed VHHX.txt file for the SID/STAR as well so nobody else would have to copy and pasted it all into their own new text file. Just paste this file into the PMDG SID/STAR folder:

[Zarkov505 1]

Thank you to everyone who contributed this information. I recently spent some time in a 737NG AATD. One of the things we did was fly the short hop from the new airport into Kai Tak. The overall fun prompted me to set up a home system, around the PMDG 737NG package, and the fun (and challenge) of the Kai Tak approach made it something I really wanted available.

 

--John R. Strohm

[Jockos 6]

Folks

If you go to  http://www.vapap.com/ you will find installers for FS9, FSX and P3D3 to give you SIDs, STARs and Approaches for VHHX

I believe they are working fine with Airac 1701 (Navigraph)  If you have any issues contact the author via the VAPAP email,

 

Cheers