Flare arms but not Rollout !?!?

[Gazzareth 808]

On the last couple of flights I have noticed that "Flare" is arming and working correctly, but I am never seeing "Rollout" annunciated at all. Not sure if I am missing a step or if it has changed since the latest hotfix. If anyone has any suggestions as to what is causing that it would be much appreciated.. Cheers G

[Mats_J 2]

You probably have the Fail passive A/P selected in Options. Cheers,

[VLJ510 16]

If you have the right equipment, have you armed the CMD B after established on the ILS and having activated the APP and on G/S with both NAV radio tuned to the freq and both course set properly?

[RYR738 9]

What does the AFDS staus announce ? It will say CMD for fail passive or Land 3 for fail operational.

[VLJ510 16]

The CMD won't change to Land 3 until lower in the approach and autoland systems have checked themselves, -1500 feet. Also to the original poster you need to sign your name sure 'G' is not up to PMDG rules on posting!

[RYR738 9]

The CMD won't change to Land 3 until lower in the approach and autoland systems have checked themselves, -1500 feet.

Of course.I am talking about Below 1500 ft !! Above 1500 ft it should announce Single Channel !!!( provided you have Hotfix 3 installed ).......otherwise it will say CMD which of course is wrong. Fred.

[Vollie 11]

I had the same...must I activate the CMD B before capturing ILS or after that?

[RYR738 9]

I had the same...must I activate the CMD B before capturing ILS or after that?

After !! Capture the Localizer and Glideslope first using APP mode. Then you can select the 2nd autopilot. Fred.

[davidz 26]

The procedure is to select the second autopilot once the APP button has been selected.

[Vollie 11]

I'm gonna try each situation. After capturing and after selecting app.I will look which one is going very well. Thanks!!!Can I use the CMD C and D for other things??Or is that the same as A and B, I never used that before.

[Gazzareth 808]

Thanks for the suggestions, I will check it out. I am definitely selecting cmd b, after selecting app.From memory I think it is going from Single Ch. Back to cmd on the pfd so I am wondering if I accidentally switched the option to fail passive...G

[Spin737 102]

After !! Capture the Localizer and Glideslope first using APP mode. Then you can select the 2nd autopilot. Fred.

I think that's a policy, not a Boeing requirement. Last place I flew it was arm the approach and then the 2nd A/P. Of course that was all on an intercept heading and not with the LOC captured.

[Gazzareth 808]

From memory I think it is going from Single Ch. Back to cmd on the pfd so I am wondering if I accidentally switched the option to fail passive...

Looks like that may have been the problem, although it will be a few days before I can do a testflight !! G

[davidz 26]

Thanks for the suggestions, I will check it out. I am definitely selecting cmd b, after selecting app. From memory I think it is going from Single Ch. Back to cmd on the pfd so I am wondering if I accidentally switched the option to fail passive... G

Once on the approach, the FMA will show Single Channel as only one autopilot is active. If both CMD buttons have been selected, the autoflight system will perform at self-test at 1500FT radio altimeter (ILS deviation bars on PFD will flash yellow) and the second autopilot will engage. The FMA will show CMD for fail passive systems, LAND 3 for fail operational systems and LAND 2 for degraded (something has failed) fail operational systems. Cheers DZ