Flare and Idle thrust

[namida 0]

Because NGX is the first aircraft for FS that implemented Approach Idle and need quite little adjustment for flare,it is time consuming process be familiar with it's character. I usually set idle at 100ft and flare at 50 with othere aircrafts, so I want to know is my behavior is in permissable range.Many cockpit video performing manual landing shows perfectly same as NGX autoland shows, it's hard to change old habit :) Eventually I get used to do that, but still curious I'm doing right or not.Any advice would be appreciate.

[ZachLW 37]

I'm going idle anywhere from ~70 to 30 feet. No flare is really needed when I'm landing. Just hold whatever pitch (+0-2 degrees) you have at Vref.

[Cristi_Neagu 134]

I usually do flare a bit... but just a bit. About 1-2 degrees. I aim for 100-200ft/min at touchdown.

[willywonka 36]

Flare at ~15ft: http://www.b737.org.uk/landingtechnique.htm

[ZachLW 37]

Flare at ~15ft: http://www.b737.org....ngtechnique.htm

The point is there's there's barely any "flare" when landing the NGX. Regardless of the real world or b737.orgs' technique

[MMartinov 48]

Guys but I think it is pointless to discuss the NGX "flare" techniques yet, as we don't know what adjustments (if any) will bring the SP1. As PMDG mentioned it is something that will be looked into and most likely there will be changes. So, today pitch 0-2 on landing might change tomorrow.

[ZachLW 37]

Guys but I think it is pointless to discuss the NGX "flare" techniques yet, as we don't know what adjustments (if any) will bring the SP1. As PMDG mentioned it is something that will be looked into and most likely there will be changes. So, today pitch 0-2 on landing might change tomorrow.

Yeah, but the OP wanted advice. Tonight.

[namida 0]

NGX really doesn't need much flare, but I'm not say to discussing it's attitude, just want to know how people are get used to NGX's new genuine characteristic.Well actually using hud like fighter jets makes landing A LOT easier but, well.. you know.. I want a classic flight at some perspective.. :) I found autoland pushs yoke little bit when descent rate is almost less than 100fpm so I'm trying to do that. xPNowadays I always make NGX floats - up and down (I usually enjoy autoland and didn't practice manual landing much) Thank you guys for kind advices and it's especially impressive zach's style watching Vref instead fpm. I will try that, too!

[martin-w 3,235]

I was throttling back at 20 feet and simultaneous slight flare, two degrees. However, I now throttle back at the 30 foot call, and flare slightly, a couple of degrees. I find this better. Incidentally, if you look at the real world HUD videos, you will also see a fare at the 30 foot call.

http://www.youtube.c...tch?v=nGn399xzM-

Martin Wilby

[wanabflyer 53]

Well i am still struggling with this one. getting better, but still the odd float or bounce, or just plain hard.

[Houghton11 12]

I throttle back at 50ft, then initiate a flare right after I hear the 20ft call. I lose a lot of airspeed in that last 50ft sometimes so it's something I'm working at step by step to get in close to r/w technique. I think it's pretty difficult to really judge the flare or even complete one with FSX's limited field of view...your peripheral probably gleams a lot more in the real aircraft making it possible to pull off that last 15ft or so flare as mentioned above. For me, it's more a quarter of an inch back on the saitek yoke then any actual visual reference. If the aircraft floats then I just let it. Can't always win.

[willywonka 36]

The point is there's there's barely any "flare" when landing the NGX. Regardless of the real world or b737.orgs' technique

Boeing did this on purpose. The 800/900's longer fuselage has higher risk of tail strike, and the flare should not be accomplished with much attitude. More discussions here: http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/289527-landing-technique-b737ng.html and http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/10335-difficulty-landing-737-800-true-any-pointers.html

[namida 0]

Wow I found even real world pilot pushes yoke while flare in the movies Wilby linked.Now I know 50ft is a normal height many people and autopilot start flare.. ok I'll practice with this.. And I love pprune! most satisfying answers by googling ends at there. Thank you Nirattisal. Still, the height to set idle thrust is the most subtle part to master!

[Cras 6]

The smoothest landing I have done yet on the NGX was one where I never idled the thrust. I had remembered to turn the A/T off, but never idled the thrust. It was silky smooth, I had only noticed that I did not idle the thrust because that lovely sound of the spoilers deploying automatically never occured and a quick sweep brought the high fan speed to my attention. But on a proper landing, I idle just when I cross the threshold, or just about to, a second or so prior, and then barely a flare, and I mean barely a flare, at around 20 to 10 feet above the groundthen a nice soft landing on the runway, better than Pete Conrad, way better than Neil Armstrong.

[Houghton11 12]

"Flying" the aircraft to the ground with a bit of thrust do result in typically smooth landings....but you will have all the excess energy to get rid of which isn't always 'convenient'. Although I won't lie it was something I was guilty of it back in glider days...hahahaa