Intel Core i7-3960X (Sandy Bridge-E) And X79 Platform Preview

[dazz 69]

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-3960x-x79-performance,3026.html Too bad there's no overclock in the review

[VirginAus737 0]

mmm, overclocking. That'd be nice. Too bad FSX still probably won't fully utilise 6 cores if you had one.

[Humpty 751]

I would not go for it. expensive and the review is not good.

[VirginAus737 0]

The 2600k would not be faster than these beasts. Maybe the the 3820 but not the 3930k or 3960x.

[Humpty 751]

The 2600k would not be faster than these beasts. Maybe the the 3820 but not the 3930k or 3960x.

You want to pay a grand when your existing system performs well in FSX.

[VirginAus737 0]

No, not saying I would. A 2600k probably has a better performance per $ ratio.

[cmeeks 8]

Sometimes performance is more important than performance per $. This is especially true of FSX. But I would never spend $1000 or even $500 on a CPU - NEVER.

[dazz 69]

The AMD Zambezi will have a better performance per $ ratio then the I7 or E!

And what does that mean? basically that 1.- AMD can't compete in performance and have to go for the "bang for the buck"2.- AMD will be forced to lower the price if Zambezi doesn't live up to the expectations. And guess what? here's the pricing: http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-fx-series-prices-revealed--listed-for-pre-order/13540.html#$189 - $266, when they were supposed to cost $300. What does that tell you? Yep, they will probably suck. Honestly, at this point I would skip Zambezi and wait to see what Piledriver brings to the table.3.- Given that it will only will have "good" performance in applications that take advantage of all 8 cores, it will be have a poor IPC and for FSX it'll be a terrible choice, even in performance per dollar: remember that an I5 2500K costs $215 So it's quite obvious to me that the I5 2500K will still be the CPU of choice for FSX, at least until Ivy Bridge

[ZachLW 37]

And what does that mean? basically that 1.- AMD can't compete in performance and have to go for the "bang for the buck"2.- AMD will be forced to lower the price if Zambezi doesn't live up to the expectations. And guess what? here's the pricing: http://vr-zone.com/a...der/13540.html#$189 - $266, when they were supposed to cost $300. What does that tell you? Yep, they will probably suck. Honestly, at this point I would skip Zambezi and wait to see what Piledriver brings to the table.3.- Given that it will only will have "good" performance in applications that take advantage of all 8 cores, it will be have a poor IPC and for FSX it'll be a terrible choice, even in performance per dollar: remember that an I5 2500K costs $215 So it's quite obvious to me that the I5 2500K will still be the CPU of choice for FSX, at least until Ivy Bridge

It's no use. Randy hates Intel fan boys, Dario.

[Humpty 751]

Bulldozer is still not out so one can not talk about the performance, and the prices showing up certain places may not even be right. The fact is currently intel is giving performance in fsx , who knows what Bulldozer is going to give.

[dazz 69]

Bulldozer is still not out so one can not talk about the performance, and the prices showing up certain places may not even be right. The fact is currently intel is giving performance in fsx , who knows what Bulldozer is going to give.

You're right, we'll need to wait for realease, but they are still hexa & octo cores. It's not rocket science: If the IPC in FSX was close to the one in Sandy Bridge, they would be faster chips (the octo cores) than a I7 3960X (which is confirmed to cost some $500) in heavily threaded apps. Do you think AMD would sell a FX-8120 for $223? I don't think so The pricing is confirmed anyway, they're taking pre-orders: http://www.techpowerup.com/151949/AMD-FX-Series-Processors-Up-For-Pre-Order.html Also, those prices are probably inflated just because they're new. Based on all that, expect Bulldozer to have a pathetic IPC

[cmeeks 8]

And what does that mean? basically that 1.- AMD can't compete in performance and have to go for the "bang for the buck"2.- AMD will be forced to lower the price if Zambezi doesn't live up to the expectations. And guess what? here's the pricing: http://vr-zone.com/a...der/13540.html#$189 - $266, when they were supposed to cost $300. What does that tell you? Yep, they will probably suck. Honestly, at this point I would skip Zambezi and wait to see what Piledriver brings to the table.3.- Given that it will only will have "good" performance in applications that take advantage of all 8 cores, it will be have a poor IPC and for FSX it'll be a terrible choice, even in performance per dollar: remember that an I5 2500K costs $215 So it's quite obvious to me that the I5 2500K will still be the CPU of choice for FSX, at least until Ivy Bridge

I'll be sure to quote this when people buy AMD soon and wonder why FSX won't run as well as they thought

[Humpty 751]

You're right, we'll need to wait for realease, but they are still hexa & octo cores. It's not rocket science: If the IPC in FSX was close to the one in Sandy Bridge, they would be faster chips (the octo cores) than a I7 3960X (which is confirmed to cost some $500) in heavily threaded apps. Do you think AMD would sell a FX-8120 for $223? I don't think so The pricing is confirmed anyway, they're taking pre-orders: http://www.techpower...-Pre-Order.html Also, those prices are probably inflated just because they're new. Based on all that, expect Bulldozer to have a pathetic IPC

Well the price for india changed to "pricing available in September" but as the launch has been postponed I guess it may be a month or two before it's available. The main will be the Enhanced Bulldozer next year. Don't know about the IPC as there are no reviews available.

[SpiritFlyer 987]

And what does that mean? basically that 1.- AMD can't compete in performance and have to go for the "bang for the buck"2.- AMD will be forced to lower the price if Zambezi doesn't live up to the expectations. And guess what? here's the pricing: http://vr-zone.com/a...der/13540.html#$189 - $266, when they were supposed to cost $300. What does that tell you? Yep, they will probably suck. Honestly, at this point I would skip Zambezi and wait to see what Piledriver brings to the table.3.- Given that it will only will have "good" performance in applications that take advantage of all 8 cores, it will be have a poor IPC and for FSX it'll be a terrible choice, even in performance per dollar: remember that an I5 2500K costs $215 So it's quite obvious to me that the I5 2500K will still be the CPU of choice for FSX, at least until Ivy Bridge

Along with it's i7-2600K sister (for no good reason except I have one) I think you are 100% right. Sandy Bridge E will not likely improve FSX performance significantly, if at all, and hoping that the new AMD will even be able to place 3rd, is, well, hopeless... Kind regards,

[Humpty 751]

if at all, and hoping that the new AMD will even be able to place 3rd, is, well, hopeless... Kind regards,

Absolutely agree. I think the Bulldozer will be launched in Oct / Nov .