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As someone else said I know the latest hotfix is to be considered as beta and "use at your own risk" so this is in no way meant to be anything else than a report that something just doesn't seem right. I keep getting these errors and even before powering the a/c up from it's cold & dark state but only by panning around for a minute or two sitting at the gate. I think I will re-install the NGX using the latest RTM version and then wait for SP1. Looking in the app log I see this message after every CTD Faulting application name: fsx.exe, version: 10.0.61472.0, time stamp: 0x475e17d3Faulting module name: PMDG_737NGX.DLL_unloaded, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x4e7ce449Exception code: 0xc0000005Fault offset: 0x61cd9376Faulting process id: 0x126cFaulting application start time: 0x01cc7d68bb7d34b2Faulting application path: F:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\fsx.exeFaulting module path: PMDG_737NGX.DLLReport Id: 452f2aad-e95c-11e0-8e3c-865a56c13493


Richard Åsberg

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Are you starting Flight Sim with your NGX loaded into the default flight? That's what was causing that the error for me. The fix is to save a default aircraft into your default situation. And load the NGX from the Free flight window. I'm hoping their will be a work around so we can go back to loading up from default.


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Yes, I do start up with the NGX loaded so I'll try what you suggest and will report back.Thanks for the tip!


Richard Åsberg

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Richard,Use the trike as your start up aircraft, uses little memory. ( Tip from Tabs)


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Richard,Use the trike as your start up aircraft, uses little memory. ( Tip from Tabs)
Thanks, I'll try that!And just to make sure, it's OK to start FSX with the Trike and then change to the NGX at the a/c selection screen before starting the actual flight or should I wait changing to the NGX until I'm actually "inside" FSX?

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Richard, start with the trike, then select airport, then NGX, then "Fly Now", never had a CTD starting or exiting.


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Ok, thanks!Someone else reported they only have this problem with addon liveries so I wonder if it could in fact be a livery problem?Will do some testing when I get home from work today.


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The only way to test is to see if it does CTD with the House Livery


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What I know, one always had to start with a simple ac such as Cessna or the like, when using an advanced ac.Why should that be diffr. when using the NGX? (I myself are still waiting for SP1 though , before I will purchase the NGX)So start up FSX with an simple ac, choose airport and gate, then pick the NGX livery./ Leffe

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Leffe, because PMDG say to load the NGX in Free Flight screen, not at airport as some do.


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Why did they change that behaviour???Worried.gif All other PMDG ac (such as the 747 and MD11 anyway, which I have) thereyou always had to start your FS with an simple ac, pick your airport and gate and first then, choose your advanced ac./ Leffe

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Not sure to be honest, can only guess it is way the NGX loads that makes this a requirement.


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What I know, one always had to start with a simple ac such as Cessna or the like, when using an advanced ac.Why should that be diffr. when using the NGX?
As Julian said and from the NGX manual.Sean Campbell

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Thanks, Julian and Sean!.....Looking forward to SP1, so I also could become airborne for the first time, with this lovely NGX./ Leffe

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Get plenty of food in when you get it Leffe, you won't be going out for a while biggrin.png


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